The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Captain Space]

Okay, this debate is getting pretty overlong, time to settle this once and for all...by which I mean not settle it at all and simply riff off the debate for a semi-related match-up:

Officer Krillin (RF) VS Patrolman Jaco (RF)...crime-fighting contest!

Both begin in separate identical cities with a list of suspects and constant updates on crimes in progress, and are given relatively free rein (like, they can pursue their own investigations or call for support as they like without having to take orders, but they can't just go around blowing stuff up indiscriminately). They have 24 hours; who does their city the most good?

(Bonus round: Same set-up, but throw in the Great Saiyaman (pre-Buu) as team 3 with his own city.)

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Bacterian (no smell) vs. Mr. Satan

[Doctor.]

Okay, this debate is getting pretty overlong, time to settle this once and for all...by which I mean not settle it at all and simply riff off the debate for a semi-related match-up:

Officer Krillin (RF) VS Patrolman Jaco (RF)...crime-fighting contest!

Both begin in separate identical cities with a list of suspects and constant updates on crimes in progress, and are given relatively free rein (like, they can pursue their own investigations or call for support as they like without having to take orders, but they can't just go around blowing stuff up indiscriminately). They have 24 hours; who does their city the most good?

(Bonus round: Same set-up, but throw in the Great Saiyaman (pre-Buu) as team 3 with his own city.)

Kuririn most definitely. Jaco was threatening to kill robbers and policemen lol.

[Lord Beerus]

Bacterian (no smell) vs. Mr. Satan

Bacterian wrecks Mr Satan.

[supercat]

Ginyu, Jaco, Beerus, Great Saiyaman (last man standing dance-off)

Yeah, I don't think a handful of poses is going to be enough to top Beerus' back spin to head spin combo.

[h0kuten]

Beerus (Full Power) + Goku SSJG (BoG) vs Golden Frieza + Goku SSJG SS + Vegeta SSJG SS

[supercat]

Beerus (Full Power) + Goku SSJG (BoG) vs Golden Freeza + Goku SSJG SS + Vegeta SSJG SS

If Beerus manages to take out one of the Saiyans early on in the fight, team one has a pretty good chance of winning, as Frieza's stamina will eventually take it's toll.

[ZombieVito]

Bacterian (no smell) vs. Mr. Satan

Bacterian should be able to win with small difficulty.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

- Anime Chichi (23rd TB) vs. Manga Krillin (23rd TB)

- King Chappa (23rd TB) vs.

Spoiler:

1. Chaozu (22nd TB)
2. Krillin (22nd TB)
3. Tambourine
4. Tenshinhan (22nd TB)
5. Drum

[Blocky]

SSGSS3 Gogeta and SSGSS3 Vegito vs Pegasus Seiya (w/ Bronze Cloth) and Post-Crisis Superman
Piccolo (End of Z) vs Hatchiyack
EoZ Yamcha vs Dr.Geno
Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Kamiccolo (1st appearance)
Future 18 vs Androids 14 and 15

Battles (equal power)
The Ginyu Force vs Omega Shenron
Piccolo (End of Z) vs Base Vegito
Jaco vs Cui
Zarbon vs Jeice
Bardock vs Android 19

[ZombieVito]

- Anime Chichi (23rd TB) vs. Manga Krillin (23rd TB)

- King Chappa (23rd TB) vs.

Spoiler:

1. Chaozu (22nd TB)
2. Krillin (22nd TB)
3. Tambourine
4. Tenshinhan (22nd TB)
5. Drum

Kuririn still wins.
Stops at #2.

SSGSS3 Gogeta and SSGSS3 Vegito vs Pegasus Seiya (w/ Bronze Cloth) and Post-Crisis Superman
Piccolo (End of Z) vs Hatchiyack
EoZ Yamcha vs Dr.Geno
Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Kamiccolo (1st appearance)
Future 18 vs Androids 14 and 15

Superman is stupidity incarnated. He blinks and Vegetto and Gogeta disappear.
My gut tells me Piccolo takes this.
Yamcha gets a hole on his chest again.
Piccolo one shots. Unless Goku uses a KKx5.
18 wrecks them.

New battles:

SSJ2 Gohan [Post Z Sword] vs SSJ2 Goku [Buu arc].
SSJ2 Gohan [Post Z Sword] vs SSJ2 Goku [DBS].

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Kuririn still wins.

Anime Chichi is implied to be above Young Piccolo Daimao. (Just putting that out there.)

SSJ2 Gohan [Post Z Sword] vs SSJ2 Goku [Buu arc].

Gohan slaughters his father.

[ZombieVito]

Anime Chichi is implied to be above Young Piccolo Daimao. (Just putting that out there.)

She was? Interesting. Mind giving the episode or quote?

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

She was? Interesting. Mind giving the episode or quote?

Piccolo says something along the lines of he'll see Goku's true power when Goku's about to fight Chichi. I could check my DVDs later but I definitely remember him saying something like that.

[ZombieVito]

She was? Interesting. Mind giving the episode or quote?

Piccolo says something along the lines of he'll see Goku's true power when Goku's about to fight Chichi. I could check my DVDs later but I definitely remember him saying something like that.

I just watched the episode [Latin dub] and Piccolo says this:

Now you will show me what you can do.

He could mean techniques and not necessarily power.

[Galan007]

In the Japanese anime, I believe Ma Junior actually says that he'll see Son Goku's true strength when he's about to fight Chichi.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Spoiler:

[h0kuten]

I really think the Z-Sword just restored Gohan's strength, or brought him a little past Majin Vegeta & Goku Ssj2, but not to the degree where he could easily destroy them, after all, Fat Buu is only 2.5x Teen Gohan, whose probably only 60% of Goku Ssj2.

[supercat]

SSGSS3 Gogeta and SSGSS3 Vegito vs Pegasus Seiya (w/ Bronze Cloth) and Post-Crisis Superman
Piccolo (End of Z) vs Hatchiyack
EoZ Yamcha vs Dr.Geno
Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Kamiccolo (1st appearance)
Future 18 vs Androids 14 and 15

Battles (equal power)
The Ginyu Force vs Omega Shenron
Piccolo (End of Z) vs Base Vegito
Jaco vs Cui
Zarbon vs Jeice
Bardock vs Android 19

-Hatchiyack's power can be a bit difficult to determine because his insane durability automatically enables him to tank attacks that otherwise would have rendered him useless. In terms of raw power, he should be somewhere in between Perfect Cell and Super Perfect Cell, but closer to the former, so a battle with Piccolo would be an exceptionally close one. When all is said and done, I'd say the Namekian should be able to seal the deal with his superior battle prowess, experience, and impaling ability (Makankosappo).

-Yamcha ends up in the same miserable state that he was put in the first time he ran into Gero. The highest I could envision the former is in the low millions, so a battle with the latter wouldn't even be.. well.. a battle at all, but rather another one sided slaughter. Let's hope for Yamcha's sake, someone has some extra Senzu Beans!

-Although Goku was likely notably below Frieza in the Buu arc and BoG, he probably caught up to the point of at least being able to tangle with Kamiccolo, seeing as how he was able to give Uub a good fight.

-Androids 14 and 15 are probably only a bit stronger than Frieza, while Future 18 could one-shot the tyrant, or at least take him down with minimal effort. She turns them both into a pile of mechanical junk and uses their leftover pieces of scrap metal as target practice.

-If all members of the Ginyu Force collaborate with one another and leverage their cheap tactics like freezing time and/or switching bodies, then Omega Shenron is a goner. With the exclusion of such abilities, and keeping things restricted strictly to hand to hand combat, Omega beats them each down rather quickly.

-While Piccolo is up there in terms of combat prowess, I doubt he could stand up to the combined might of two of the top fighters in the franchise. That said, in no shape or form, would this be an easy win for Vegetto.

-Cui seemed pretty darn useless and cowardly, and along with Frieza's other minions he presumably relied on a superior power level to bully weaker opponents around. Although Jaco is no champ himself, I'd say he still wins after a good fight.

-Both Zarbon and Jeice came off as two more bullies who utilized their absurdly high battle powers to get their ways, but something tells me that the latter has more up his sleeve than the former.

-A warrior at heart versus a machine who's likely been programmed with the techniques and tactics of some of the best warriors to have ever walked the universe. With energy absorption, Android 19 wins without a doubt, but without it, I could see Bardock somehow pulling through everything Gero's loyal creation has to dish out.

[Captain Space]

Beerus (Full Power) + Goku SSJG (BoG) vs Golden Freeza + Goku SSJG SS + Vegeta SSJG SS

Team 2 could win if it was just Beerus for sure, but throw in Goku (who given what we know about the not-enormous gaps against everyone here can't be much weaker than his SSGSS self) and team 1 can probably win.

SSGSS3 Gogeta and SSGSS3 Vegito vs Pegasus Seiya (w/ Bronze Cloth) and Post-Crisis Superman
Piccolo (End of Z) vs Hatchiyack
EoZ Yamcha vs Dr.Geno
Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Kamiccolo (1st appearance)
Future 18 vs Androids 14 and 15

Battles (equal power)
The Ginyu Force vs Omega Shenron
Piccolo (End of Z) vs Base Vegito
Jaco vs Cui
Zarbon vs Jeice
Bardock vs Android 19

-"Bronze Cloth" is a bit vague. Beginning-of-series/first couple arcs, Seiya would get stomped by Roshi. End of series, Seiya takes this match on his own and cleans up Superman while he's at it.
-Hatchiyack has to be closing in on SSJ2 tier if not at it already; then throw in an even more powerful form and some crazy abilities if we're talking the original version (the newer OVA removes a bunch of abilities from him). I don't think Piccolo ever got that strong.
-That interview said only a few of 'em always train in their spare time, and Yamcha isn't among them (I'm also still inclined to believe he retired since he's still not as strong as retired-Krillin), so I doubt he got strong enough just by the Cell Games or anything to beat Gero.
-I say Goku, but I kinda don't want to get into that debate (it dragged on a good while on the power levels thread).
-Given how quickly a relatively-basic SSJ was able to trash 14 and 15, I guess 18.

(equal power matches)
-If it's equal power, Omega gets knocked around for a bit but the Ginyus are having trouble finishing the job due to regeneration and all. The Captain sees all the amazing abilities Omega has and decides this is a fantastic host body...
-More likely Piccolo, he has more tricks up his elongating sleeves.
-Jaco is a pretty decent/fast-thinking tactician. Cui is dumb ("Look, it's Freeza!" does not count as a clever tactic.). Jaco wins.
-Tie?
-Bardock holds the initial advantage, but eventually 19 will absorb some of his energy and come out on top.

New battles:

SSJ2 Gohan [Post Z Sword] vs SSJ2 Goku [Buu arc].
SSJ2 Gohan [Post Z Sword] vs SSJ2 Goku [DBS].

I'd say Goku wins both. We don't really even know for sure if Gohan surpassed his Cell Games self or not.