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Dragon Ball Z Blu Ray Season sets

Post by Gian2408 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:22 am

Hey everyone,

The only version of the regular Z that I had was the orange brick sets, and I decided recently to finally pick up the first two seasons of the Dragon Ball Z blu-ray season sets. Is this release going to be the final release of regular Z or are funimation going to come up again in a couple of years with another "definitive version"? Are the blu-ray sets worth the money?

Also, has Toei Animation ever released Dragon Ball Z on blu-ray or is this a Funimation only thing?

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Post by Adamant » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:32 am

Gian2408 wrote:Are the blu-ray sets worth the money?
Not really. It's the same kind of "let's try to make it look like a modern flash animation" nonsense as the orange bricks and looks pretty poor. Cropped to 16:9 too.
Gian2408 wrote:Is this release going to be the final release of regular Z or are funimation going to come up again in a couple of years with another "definitive version"?
Nothing announced, though there's nothing wrong with hoping.

Gian2408 wrote:Also, has Toei Animation ever released Dragon Ball Z on blu-ray or is this a Funimation only thing?
Apart from the two recent movies, Funimation are the only ones to have released Dragonball Z blu-rays.
Kai is available on bluray if you're into that, though.
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Post by Gian2408 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:39 am

Thanks for the help :)

Did funimation correct the same old animation from the orange bricks or did they get new animation/film from Toei?

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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:38 am

Gian2408 wrote:Did funimation correct the same old animation from the orange bricks or did they get new animation/film from Toei?
As far as we can tell, it's literally the exact same set of film reels as they used for the orange bricks in 2007.
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Post by DB1984 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:28 am

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Gian2408 wrote:Did funimation correct the same old animation from the orange bricks or did they get new animation/film from Toei?
As far as we can tell, it's literally the exact same set of film reels as they used for the orange bricks in 2007.
And they claim it's the "Original Japanese Prints". "Original Japanese Prints" my butt.

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Post by sintzu » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:43 am

Gian2408 wrote: Is this release going to be the final release of regular Z ? or are funimation going to come up again in a couple of years with another "definitive version"?

Are the blu-ray sets worth the money?
It probably is for now but don't be surprised if they release something else after Super in a few years.

They are in terms of the episode number on each set but in terms of quality that's up to you to decide.
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Post by Tobi555 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:30 pm

Does this release have episode recaps and episode previews?

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Post by Codarik » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:52 am

Tobi555 wrote:Does this release have episode recaps and episode previews?
Has recaps but no previews.

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Post by Gonstead » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:47 am

DB1984 wrote:And they claim it's the "Original Japanese Prints". "Original Japanese Prints" my butt.
In a technical sense, they're not wrong. But yeah, definitely not the first gen original masters.
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Post by huzaifa_ahmed » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:12 am

I am pleased with what I've seen. Yes, on principle, the cropping is bad, and the colors are still off, but it is truly "high-def" though not as large size as the Level sets.

But it is decent, and I enjoy it, as opposed to simply bearing with it like the DVD's they are based on. In principle, it's a "Orange Brick" Blu-ray.

But it is improved.

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Post by huzaifa_ahmed » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:13 am

huzaifa_ahmed wrote:I am pleased with what I've seen. Yes, on principle, the cropping is bad, and the colors are still off, but it is truly "high-def" though not as large size as the Level sets.

But it is decent, and I enjoy it, as opposed to simply bearing with it like the DVD's they are based on. In principle, it's a "Orange Brick" Blu-ray.

But it is improved.
It is a major step up. Nowhere near Level set, though, or even the Dragon Boxes.

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Post by OWmyDragonBallz » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:12 am

Correct me if needed, but wasn't DB Kai remastered directly from the DragonBoxes?

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Post by SpiritBombTriumphant » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:41 am

FUNimation used a different remastering process than they did on the Orange Bricks, thus the quality of these is much better than found on the Orange Bricks--they did not merely take their Orange Brick remasters and blow them up to HD and call it good. It's also (obviously) in high definition. They also noted that the Orange Bricks had been cropped automatically and some important footage was lost--in the Blu-rays, they manually selected what to crop out so that important features were left intact. It is definitely worth the money. My local Best Buy stocks them for $24.99 and I love them. I would like them to be in their original 4:3 format, but I'm happy with what I have. For any of the haters who think it's the same shit as the Orange Bricks, watch this:

https://youtu.be/ijHfBlL1DHE?t=4m18s (that should start at 4:18 for the comparisons)

EDIT: First comparison in the video above for the lazy

Orange Brick Remastering(DVD)
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Post by theoriginalbilis » Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:57 pm

Both of the releases have virtually scrubbed the video clean to within an inch of it's life, but I definitely agree that the Blu-Rays have the advantage.
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Post by HybridSaiyan » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:03 pm

I own all 9 sets of the blu ray sets and I see nothing wrong with them. I consider them to be a major improvement over the orange bricks. This blu ray release is probably the best thing for fans that prefers the original Funi dub with Bruce. Since I'm not a fan of Kai, these sets are amazing for me.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:30 pm

The Blu-rays definitely have advantages over the orange bricks, but it's the home video equivalent of asking if you'd rather have a crushed arm or just a broken arm. You'd probably say the latter is by far the preferable choice, but, truth be told, both suck.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:43 pm

To me, with the Blu-rays, your trading one set of problems for another. The Orange Bricks have some color issues (thankfully most of "season 2" looks better on the Blu-ray footage), but it has its own color issues, and other things like the "selective cropping" causes its own set of problems.

Here are some comparison shots:
Also, the "pan and scan" causes more problems than it fixes. In the scene of Goku's first Super Saiyan transformation, which is a pretty important scene, the camera waves around the screen, causing a nauseating effect:

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That shot didn't need any panning whatsoever for the 16x9 crop. In fact, it cuts off MORE of Goku's hair when he jerks his head back! What the hell was the point of that? It's not just that shot either, that entire scene is filled with unnatural panning like this, and it's a very important and iconic scene.
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Gaffer Tape wrote:The Blu-rays definitely have advantages over the orange bricks, but it's the home video equivalent of asking if you'd rather have a crushed arm or just a broken arm. You'd probably say the latter is by far the preferable choice, but, truth be told, both suck.
That sums things up nicely. Not to mention that I'll try to convince people to avoid purchasing these sets, since FUNimation deliberately went against their polling data due to an idiotic misconceptions that the only reason the Orange Bricks sold so well was because they were cropped and filtered.
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Post by SpiritBombTriumphant » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:51 pm

The problems on the BD sets are much less notciable than the Orange Bricks. Those are crap. But does anyone else think FUNimation purposely doesn't make these perfect so that they will never have a "perfect" release that makes all future releases pointless?

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Post by Sayo-chan » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:28 am

SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:The problems on the BD sets are much less notciable than the Orange Bricks. Those are crap. But does anyone else think FUNimation purposely doesn't make these perfect so that they will never have a "perfect" release that makes all future releases pointless?
They did with the level BD sets, but they cancelled them.
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Post by LordCrumb » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:33 am

SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:The problems on the BD sets are much less notciable than the Orange Bricks. Those are crap. But does anyone else think FUNimation purposely doesn't make these perfect so that they will never have a "perfect" release that makes all future releases pointless?
I think that way most times..

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