"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Blade]

Mutation is just about the best word I've heard to describe Vegeta's huge power increase during Battle of Gods from an in-universe perspective. It plays ball with the established logic and the dreaded transformation multipliers, the rigidity of which should seem to make it nigh on impossible for Vegeta surpass Goku as a Super Saiyan 3 in either his Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 form.

A mutation is something unexpected and abnormal, an outlier, a freakish event or occurrence. It's perfect in the context,

[NeoKING]

You do realise that episode titles don't describe everything going on in the episode? Episode 2 talked about Vegeta and his family trip yet that lasted only half an ep and the other half was Whis and Beerus time.

Beerus and Whis pondering and pondering on the Super Saiyan God. So eventful.

Yeah, Toei's famous for doing that. He's talking as if the first episode was all about Satan deciding who should he give the award to, based on the title..

It may have well been. I don't like Super and rail on it every chance I get until it gets better, sue me.

[MaGyunia]

I'm actually expecting the time between BoG and RoF to be pretty important, as there are gaps to fill there. Goku going after Whis, Vegeta joining him and becoming SSG, the training, how they tapped into SSGSS the first time..
Maybe the RoF arc will last about 12 episodes too, but including those ones.

When I said that we should get the beginning of the Freeza arc by episode 16 I included those exact events, or gaps, as you call them, in the arc itself (Vegeta going Super Saiya-jin God himself, Goku and Vegeta's decision to go off to train under Whis, how and why both Goku and Vegeta decide and manage to develop a further transformation by going Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin, and Freeza's training), which happened off-screen at some point between BoG and Fukkatsu no F or indeed DURING Fukkatsu no F.

The kanji for "mutation" is 突然変異 (totsuzenhen'i). To break it down, it is comprised of 突然 (totsuzen), meaning "abrupt" or "sudden", and 変異 (hen'i), meaning "variation". So when combined in Japanese, it can be thought of as an "abrupt variation" in something, or as every dictionary you'll look it up in lists it, "mutation". In this case it's clearly referring to Vegeta's abrupt rage-induced beat-down of Beerus. Besides, "Vegeta's Furious Abrupt Variation" just sounds really weird and awkward, as much as it may make a little more sense. Also, I honestly have no idea where people are drawing this "he's going to go Super Saiyan 3" thing from, but I suppose it makes for more lively discussions.

In my case, it's to have a particular theory proven or disproven on the power boosts and limits of power "imposed" by each Super Saiya-jin stage, as well as on the way the Super Saiya-jin God and Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin transformations work when compared to the other, "regular" Super Saiya-jin transformations.
I'm not going to explain the theory in-depth once again, as I've done it three times in more than one thread.
Again, in no way do I want to see Vegeta going Super Saiya-jin 3 during or after the Beerus arc in DBSuper, I've never been a fan of the physical characteristics of the transformation, especially when applied (if applied) to Vegeta.

But that's just my reason to have postulated the potential of having Vegeta become/become able to become Super Saiya-jin 3 either during or after the Beerus arc in DBSuper (and, in the movies' non-canon timeline, at some point between BoG and Fukkatsu no F)
In my case it's not about wanting it to happen, it's about a possibility which I've always regarded as far-fetched, even after reading the names of the episodes yesterday and the word "mutation".
In all other cases, I believe postulating that scenario has to do with the fact that it's one of an interminable list of transformations or events fans would like to see happening and they've been fantasizing about for almost two decades. Not me.

Mutation is just about the best word I've heard to describe Vegeta's huge power increase during Battle of Gods from an in-universe perspective. It plays ball with the established logic and the dreaded transformation multipliers, the rigidity of which should seem to make it nigh on impossible for Vegeta surpass Goku as a Super Saiyan 3 in either his Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 form.

A mutation is something unexpected and abnormal, an outlier, a freakish event or occurrence. It's perfect in the context,

It's precisely that level or rigidity that should make it impossible for Vegeta to surpass Goku without undergoing an actual, physical Super Saiya-jin transformation beyond SSJ2. Basically you defend the theory that it is indeed possible to go beyond the supposed limits "imposed" by a particular Super Saiya-jin stage in certain specific circumstances, such as an explosion of anger or other trigger, and you'll most likely be proven right.

However, I've always held the theory that there is indeed that level of rigidity to each of the Super Saiya-jin stages, and a limit of power each stage can grant, rendering it impossible to become any stronger unless also undergoing another Super Saiya-jin transformation (namely the next in line), EXCEPT for the case of fusions, otherwise it would be impossible, for example, for Super Vegitto to be about twice as strong as Goku even without going Super Saiya-jin 3. The only exception to my theory was provided by the fusion technique, but there could be others, namely Vegeta's episode upon seeing Bulma getting hit by Beerus.

[kizuki]

I'm not necessarily convinced Bejita will hit SSJ3. For the simple fact that I just don't see SSJ3 being achieved due to a huge emotional instance happening. To be honest, I don't think SSJ2 does, either. Gohan had to get emotional to hit SSJ2 against Cell because, well, that's how Gohan's power comes through. Goku knew that, he knew that to overcome the SSJ "wall" a certain amount of power had to be released and only Gohan would be able to hit that level at the time -- and the only way to do that was for him to get super angry. And I'm convinced of that, also, due to how it's explained that Goku achieved SSJ2 in the afterlife, and I can't really see Goku getting worked up emotionally like that, especially since we're assuming he did it during the Earth's time of peace and he wasn't particularly worried about anyone's well being.

Also, Gotenks. Sure, Goten just lost his mom -- but I don't think that contributed to Gotenks being able to hit that level. I think SSJ2 & 3 are just, pretty much, mutations of the first SSJ level by further increasing one's own power.

Maybe that's just common knowledge by now and I'm just rambling. I just thought I'd throw in my 2cents in regards to people seeing "mutation" and thinking Bejita is hitting the next level. I'm just not convinced.

Now, in regards to Super and Bejita ---
I think this "anger based mutation" is just some sort of explosion of power, but not enough for him to ascend to SSJ3. To me, he wasn't one of those characters that had their power substantially raised when they got angry, which is why I was pretty surprised when it happened in BoG. I mean, yea, it happens -- but not GOHAN level power increase. Hell, he's been angry throughout the whole series. If that was the case, he would've been able to surpass Goku several times over. Point I'm trying to make is, he's just not as strong as Goku, thus he cannot tap into that part of Super Saiyajin that brings out the SSJ3 transformation.

Again, just my opinion. I'll admit complete defeat when he's standing there with long, golden hair and no eyebrows. Heh'.

I'm just happy he has TWO whole episodes dedicated to him so far, LOL.

[Neon Z]

I think this "anger based mutation" is just some sort of explosion of power, but not enough for him to ascend to SSJ3. To me, he wasn't one of those characters that had their power substantially raised when they got angry, which is why I was pretty surprised when it happened in BoG. I mean, yea, it happens -- but not GOHAN level power increase. Hell, he's been angry throughout the whole series. If that was the case, he would've been able to surpass Goku several times over. Point I'm trying to make is, he's just not as strong as Goku, thus he cannot tap into that part of Super Saiyajin that brings out the SSJ3 transformation.

Again, just my opinion. I'll admit complete defeat when he's standing there with long, golden hair and no eyebrows. Heh'.

The main issue is that during his anger boost in BoGs, he's said to have surpassed SSJ3 Goku. If they're going to do that, they might as well give him SSJ3 itself for that scene.

[Doctor.]

I think this "anger based mutation" is just some sort of explosion of power, but not enough for him to ascend to SSJ3. To me, he wasn't one of those characters that had their power substantially raised when they got angry, which is why I was pretty surprised when it happened in BoG. I mean, yea, it happens -- but not GOHAN level power increase. Hell, he's been angry throughout the whole series. If that was the case, he would've been able to surpass Goku several times over. Point I'm trying to make is, he's just not as strong as Goku, thus he cannot tap into that part of Super Saiyajin that brings out the SSJ3 transformation.

Again, just my opinion. I'll admit complete defeat when he's standing there with long, golden hair and no eyebrows. Heh'.

The main issue is that during his anger boost in BoGs, he's said to have surpassed SSJ3 Goku. If they're going to do that, they might as well give him SSJ3 itself for that scene.

You can easily interpret that scene as "Vegeta's stronger than Goku (in this form)!"

[dbgtFO]

The main issue is that during his anger boost in BoGs, he's said to have surpassed SSJ3 Goku. If they're going to do that, they might as well give him SSJ3 itself for that scene.

You can easily interpret that scene as "Vegeta's stronger than Goku (in this form)!"[/quote]
What? Why? If Vegeta's strength didn't go beyond Goku's at all, but only in the same form, then that scene loses all importance. Goku could still stomp Vegeta within 5 minutes, if all Vegeta's got is being stronger than SS2 Goku.

[Doctor.]

What? Why? If Vegeta's strength didn't go beyond Goku's at all, but only in the same form, then that scene loses all importance. Goku could still stomp Vegeta within 5 minutes, if all Vegeta's got is being stronger than SS2 Goku.

Sure, I think Vegeta surpassed SS3 Goku too, as stupid as it is. I'm just saying if someone refuses to believe that, then there's another interpretation, that's not at all wrong, available.

[kizuki]

I think this "anger based mutation" is just some sort of explosion of power, but not enough for him to ascend to SSJ3. To me, he wasn't one of those characters that had their power substantially raised when they got angry, which is why I was pretty surprised when it happened in BoG. I mean, yea, it happens -- but not GOHAN level power increase. Hell, he's been angry throughout the whole series. If that was the case, he would've been able to surpass Goku several times over. Point I'm trying to make is, he's just not as strong as Goku, thus he cannot tap into that part of Super Saiyajin that brings out the SSJ3 transformation.

Again, just my opinion. I'll admit complete defeat when he's standing there with long, golden hair and no eyebrows. Heh'.

The main issue is that during his anger boost in BoGs, he's said to have surpassed SSJ3 Goku. If they're going to do that, they might as well give him SSJ3 itself for that scene.

You can easily interpret that scene as "Vegeta's stronger than Goku (in this form)!"

That line will always irk me. Even as someone who prefers the Bejita character over all in the series, I had to roll my eyes (for anyone at home keeping a list: 1.) Bejita 2.) Piccolo 3.) Tenshinhan ). I just chalked it up to everyone getting their asses handed to them and Bejita being the only one who could jerk Beerus' head with a punch after Bulma got slapped. Hence, Kamesennin saying, "OMFG, GUYS. HE'S STRONGER THAN GOKU!" .. almost like, he MUST be stronger than Goku, look what he did that no one else could. It didn't really mean much as things got flipped really quick after that.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I think people are taking this rage boost thing a bit too well seriously. The only person who said that he surpassed Goku was Roshi of all people it is very likely he misjudged what happened. Yes I know Goku said it too but he had become a SSG and absorbed it I think he was just humouring Vegeta so Vegeta wouldn't feel too bad. Besides the rage boost went as quickly as it came and plays no part in anything, I honestly don't see why this is a such a big problem, it was a fan service moment in which Vegeta had an abnormal spike in power.

[MaGyunia]

Can't believe I found someone who shares the exact same list of three all-time favorite Dragonball characters in the same exact order: Vegeta, Piccolo, Tenshinhan. Wow. You must be an interesting guy.

Back on the discussion, when it's said in BoG (by Muten Roshi and by Vegeta himself at the end of the movie) that Vegeta "finally surpassed Goku" they're obviously referring to Goku at his strongest (at the time), as in, his Super Saiya-jin 3 stage, not his strongest in the Super Saiya-jin 2 stage. At their respective Super Saiya-jin 2 stages, Goku and Vegeta are probably exactly on par, as shown by the toe-to-toe battle they had in the early Majin Buu arc after Vegeta let himself become possessed by Babidi.

I also believe there are different tendencies as to what the triggers are regarding the achievement of each Super Saiya-jin stage. The first is usually triggered by an explosion of anger (Goku over Freeza murdering Krillin in front of him, Mirai no Trunks over Gohan's death, Vegeta over his frustration at not being able to surpass Kakarotto, Gohan over... well, over himself being a pampered child, Bardock - although non-canon - over his frustration for not being able to match the power of Chilled/Freeza and avenge his lost comrades); it could be argued that the Super Saiya-jin Dai Ni Dankai stage is achieved through intense training, and so is the stage of Super Saiya-jin Dai San Dankai; the Super Saiya-jin Full Power stage is achieved by a complete "mastery" of the regular Super Saiya-jin stage, balancing power/Ki output/stamina and becoming used to being in the stage without the typical physical strain and energy consumption, which probably demands an extremely gifted/talented Saiya-jin and a lot of work; the Super Saiya-jin 2 is where things start to differ, since Gohan achieved it through an explosion of anger (one of the numerous instances where he just lost it throughout the series, although in the Cell Games he retained a certain level of control when compared to other occurences), while both Goku and Vegeta arguably achieve it through intense training at some point in the 7 year period between the Cell Games and the Majin Buu arc; the Super Saiya-jin 3 is probably only achievable by a formidably gifted Saiya-jin after intensive training as well, and is indeed so overwhelmingly powerful that it causes a lot of strain on the body and has its own time limitations and restrictions.

As for the Super Saiya-jin God and Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin stages, I've been defending all along that they're rather separate events, achieved through entirely different means when compared to the other SSJ stages, which basically build upon the previous one. The Super Saiya-jin God especially is much more a Kaio-Ken-esque power-up than anything else, but taking into account the enormous and massive power levels of both Goku and Vegeta when they achieve it, the resulting power they output in the stage is absolutely fantastic, to the point of being able to challenge Beerus to some degree, as seen in BoG, whereas Super Saiya-jin God Super Saiya-jin is most likely a complete mastery of the SSJG stage, beyond that of being able to use its power and abilities in the base form (seen in BoG and while they try to hit Whis), by adding the fighting stress and agressiveness typical of any SSJ stage, along with a slight power boost (again, just another theory).

The other theory I've been over-presenting recently on why part of me would like to see Vegeta go Super Saiya-jin 3 has to do with the way I've always theorized how the Super Saiya-jin transformations work in terms of the power boost they provide and what limits are "imposed" to each SSJ stage, and also in what exact way and to what extent the Super Saiya-jin God enhances the power of the Saiya-jin who undergoes the transformation (increasing the Saiya-jin's multiplying their MAXIMUM strength, instead of the strength of their base form - if that's the way the transformation works in terms of power boost, then for it to make sense that Vegeta is on par with Goku in Fukkatsu no F in their respective Super Saiya-jin God stages, then Vegeta's maximum power MUST be equal to that of Goku when NOT transformed into SSJG or SSJGSSJ, which means Super Saiya-jin 3, hence the whole thing about Vegeta going/being able to go Super Saiya-jin 3).

Again, personally it has absolutely nothing to do with how good I think it would look on him or how cool it would be, on the contrary. The Super Saiya-jin 3's physical characteristics have never appealed to me a lot, and I believe it would look especially bad on Vegeta, much worse than it does on Goku or Gotenks.

I've been over-presenting this theory and we've been over-discussing the Super Saiya-jin 3 Vegeta thing. Apart from my own personal theory, there's absolutely nothing to suggest that he could or should go Super Saiya-jin 3 apart from fans fantasizing over it for some reason. It didn't happen in BoG, and it almost certainly won't happen in the DBSuper version of his battle against Beerus either, and the whole "mutation" term present in the episode's title doesn't increase the possibility by that much either.

[Sora Saiyan]

Mutation is just about the best word I've heard to describe Vegeta's huge power increase during Battle of Gods from an in-universe perspective. It plays ball with the established logic and the dreaded transformation multipliers, the rigidity of which should seem to make it nigh on impossible for Vegeta surpass Goku as a Super Saiyan 3 in either his Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 form.

A mutation is something unexpected and abnormal, an outlier, a freakish event or occurrence. It's perfect in the context,

This makes so much sense, and it makes Vegeta's power up sound so much more impressive as well.

[MaGyunia]

Setting aside the whole over-debated Super Saiya-jin 3 Vegeta theory, the most important thing is that they give him (and indeed all the others, especially Piccolo and Gohan) the proper fighting time when charging on Beerus. Doesn't mean they should give him any trouble, that's one major thing they should never change when compared to BoG. In the series, Beerus should be able to knock all of them out as easliy, effortlessly and almost as quickly as he did in the movie, to further demonstrate just how enormous the gap is between his degree of power and that of ANYONE on Earth (even Goku, before he underwent the Super Saiya-jin God transformation). However, stretching the fights a little bit longer in DBSuper (especially Vegeta, who was already the one on Earth after Goku who lasted more than one or two blows to be KO'd and even had a second chance to go at Beerus) would not only please a large chunk of hardcore fans who viewed the fighting aspect and dynamics as one of the greatest things about DB and DBZ back in the 80's and 90's, it would also help them "fill" the episodes with something interesting rather than having the old Chi Chi or Muten Roshi routines, which have gotten old ages ago, all over again.

We've had enough of (re)introducing the main characters (except Piccolo, in my opinion, although I can understand that he only becomes a fundamental element when serious or menacing events occur), it's time for BOTH Beerus to display his enormous power AND for all the others to do so as well, despite the massive difference (like I said, displaying their trademark techniques against Beerus would be a good move - why not have Piccolo throw a Makankosappo at Beerus instead of having him throw only a kick?).

The way Piccolo is KO'd, for example, should also be maintained, though, as it demonstrates just how skillful a martial artist Beerus is, beyond sheer Ki and massive destructive force, but knocking Ultimate Gohan, one of the strongest fighters there ever was, out with a single kick to the stomach would seem disappointing to me. Since this is a series and not a movie, and consequently they don't have to deal with the time restraints typical of a theatrical feature, even a longer one, they MUST put more emphasis on the fighting aspect now that we're finally going to get down to it. Dragonball is humor, character development, awesome backgrounds and storylines, values, randomness, but it's also violence and fantastic fights, to the point of being unreal.

[ArchedThunder]

I'm really interested to know if the BoG arc is going to be 12 episodes, because if it is that means they are either going to greatly expand the God fight or add some more stuff after it. I mean the God fight is about 15 minutes from the stare down to the point that they are back down on Earth and Beerus destroys a rock, so even dedicating the end of episode 9 and then episode 10 (with the post battles stuff at the end) would already mean it would be longer. Part of me hopes it ends at 10 so we can get moving on, but part of me is also really wants to see what they could do if they made the fight go to episode 12.

Setting aside the whole over-debated Super Saiya-jin 3 Vegeta theory, the most important thing is that they give him (and indeed all the others, especially Piccolo and Gohan) the proper fighting time when charging on Beerus. Doesn't mean they should give him any trouble, that's one major thing they should never change when compared to BoG. In the series, Beerus should be able to knock all of them out as easliy, effortlessly and almost as quickly as he did in the movie, to further demonstrate just how enormous the gap is between his degree of power and that of ANYONE on Earth (even Goku, before he underwent the Super Saiya-jin God transformation). However, stretching the fights a little bit longer in DBSuper (especially Vegeta, who was already the one on Earth after Goku who lasted more than one or two blows to be KO'd and even had a second chance to go at Beerus) would not only please a large chunk of hardcore fans who viewed the fighting aspect and dynamics as one of the greatest things about DB and DBZ back in the 80's and 90's, it would also help them "fill" the episodes with something interesting rather than having the old Chi Chi or Muten Roshi routines, which have gotten old ages ago, all over again.

We've had enough of (re)introducing the main characters (except Piccolo, in my opinion, although I can understand that he only becomes a fundamental element when serious or menacing events occur), it's time for BOTH Beerus to display his enormous power AND for all the others to do so as well, despite the massive difference (like I said, displaying their trademark techniques against Beerus would be a good move - why not have Piccolo throw a Makankosappo at Beerus instead of having him throw only a kick?).

The way Piccolo is KO'd, for example, should also be maintained, though, as it demonstrates just how skillful a martial artist Beerus is, beyond sheer Ki and massive destructive force, but knocking Ultimate Gohan, one of the strongest fighters there ever was, out with a single kick to the stomach would seem disappointing to me. Since this is a series and not a movie, and consequently they don't have to deal with the time restraints typical of a theatrical feature, even a longer one, they MUST put more emphasis on the fighting aspect now that we're finally going to get down to it. Dragonball is humor, character development, awesome backgrounds and storylines, values, randomness, but it's also violence and fantastic fights, to the point of being unreal.

Yeah, I hate to say this, but one good thing about Broly was how he was smacking everyone around instead of just one hit KOing them, Beerus should still be on an entire other level from everyone, but the fighting should be more than him just hitting everyone once or twice, he should do a lot more to them and they should get up more than in the movie.

[sintzu]

Setting aside the whole over-debated Super Saiya-jin 3 Vegeta theory, the most important thing is that they give him the proper fighting time when charging on Beerus.

A long fight is the one thing I want more then him going Ssj3 so hopefully they give him one that's longer and overall better then what he got in BOG and animated sparks for his Ssj2 would be welcomed as well.

[MaGyunia]

Setting aside the whole over-debated Super Saiya-jin 3 Vegeta theory, the most important thing is that they give him the proper fighting time when charging on Beerus.

A long fight is the one thing I want more then him going Ssj3 so hopefully they give him one that's longer and overall better then what he got in BOG and animated sparks for his Ssj2 would be welcomed as well.

But we should focus on tomorrow's episode first. Most of us are forgetting that we'll most likely be seeing more than half on an episode dedicated to the acquaintance between Goku and Beerus and their subsequent fight. We need to remember that in BoG the entire showdown in Kaiou-sama's planet from the moment Goku first charged Beerus until he was KO'd lasted one minute. Goku will probably be just as over-confident of his abilities - for good reasons, he's become one of the strongest fighters there ever was during the Majin Buu arc - and will show off as he presents each of his Super Saiya-jin transformations to Beerus and Whis. I hope he gets gradually more and more frustrated upon realizing just how strong Beerus really is while he tries to land a punch or kick on him, and I can't wait to see both how Beerus blocks/dodges/neutralizes his Kamehameha and how he KO's Goku (staying with the way shown in BoG would be a good idea, a single chop to the neck as a masterfully-applied pressure-point attack after which he walks away whistling would be fantastic, although we've already seen it).

I also hope that whatever makes finally Beerus lose it on Earth doesn't immediately lead to a full-attack that quickly/hastily as we saw in BoG. I mean, Beerus just shouted + powered up, had a skirmish with Majin Buu and sent him away flying, they shouldn't react so hastily as they did in the movie. He didn't do anything that would suggest he was supposed to be a menace (on the contrary, he blends in quite well with people he just met, even breakdancing and stuff). It was one of the poorly developed scenes in BoG, one which has the potential to be properly expanded upon and explored in the series, since they don't need to worry about the time.

I really can't wait to watch all of these fights. Goddamn it, finally we get down to serious fighting business. Shouldn't be anywhere close to what we saw throughout the later stages of DB and the entirety of DBZ, but if it's half that good, I'll still have an orgasm and watch it hundreds of times.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I'm really interested to know if the BoG arc is going to be 12 episodes, because if it is that means they are either going to greatly expand the God fight or add some more stuff after it. I mean the God fight is about 15 minutes from the stare down to the point that they are back down on Earth and Beerus destroys a rock, so even dedicating the end of episode 9 and then episode 10 (with the post battles stuff at the end) would already mean it would be longer. Part of me hopes it ends at 10 so we can get moving on, but part of me is also really wants to see what they could do if they made the fight go to episode 12.

I know everyone wants to get to the new content as fast as possible, but I really don't want them to just blow past the end of Battle of Gods. From the sounds of things in the interviews during the film, there was a decent amount of content cut to help trim the movie down to the allotted theater run time. Personally, I'd like to actually see what was removed, since all the heroes were supposed to get their time to shine and come help Goku when he was in a pinch, even Mr. Satan.

Only, in the end, we expanded the scenario too much, and at the storyboarding phase, we had already gone very much over [the intended length], so as a result, we cut down quite a bit. (laughs) In the scenario, the Z-Warriors played a larger role, so I would have liked to put more of that to video, if possible. Each of them has their fans, after all, and I think they’ve all trained and gotten stronger. Also, we shortened the breaks in the fight [and such], and managed to just barely get it within the allotted time. Contrary [to what you’d expect], I think concentrating it [made it more] impressive.
— Masahiro Hosoda, Battle of Gods Official Movie Guide

Among the cut scenes, there was one scene I wrote where Goku is in a pinch, and everyone goes to help him, even though they know it’s hopeless. It goes on so that in the end, even Satan tries to help.Satan is a hopeless case, but he’s a character who also feels that he wants to help in some way. I suppose this was left out for time issues. In the original story, for fun, I made Satan say lots of things like, “I have a stomachache, so I’ll protect everyone from here!” (laughs)
— Akira Toriyama, Dragon Ball “Full Color Comics” Freeza arc Vol. 5 (read full interview)

[Jaetinh]

Shit I never knew scenes like those were cut in BoG. Damn, hopefully they'll add it to DBSuper and since Satan was trying to help, there's a pretty good chance Yamcha was intended to be part of the fight too.

[Lord Beerus]

Among the cut scenes, there was one scene I wrote where Goku is in a pinch, and everyone goes to help him, even though they know it’s hopeless. It goes on so that in the end, even Satan tries to help.Satan is a hopeless case, but he’s a character who also feels that he wants to help in some way. I suppose this was left out for time issues. In the original story, for fun, I made Satan say lots of things like, “I have a stomachache, so I’ll protect everyone from here!” (laughs)
— Akira Toriyama, Dragon Ball “Full Color Comics” Freeza arc Vol. 5 (read full interview)

Oh, God. I want this to happen in Super so much. It's too awesome of a scenario to pass up on.

[ZombieVito]

Among the cut scenes, there was one scene I wrote where Goku is in a pinch, and everyone goes to help him, even though they know it’s hopeless. It goes on so that in the end, even Satan tries to help.Satan is a hopeless case, but he’s a character who also feels that he wants to help in some way. I suppose this was left out for time issues. In the original story, for fun, I made Satan say lots of things like, “I have a stomachache, so I’ll protect everyone from here!” (laughs)
— Akira Toriyama, Dragon Ball “Full Color Comics” Freeza arc Vol. 5 (read full interview)

Oh, God. I want this to happen in Super so much. It's too awesome of a scenario to pass up on.

It needs to happen. Nothing will make me happier.