Older DBZ movies compared to BoG/FnF

[VeteranX]

So I rewatched all the old dbz movies and realized they kinda sucked. They feel so disorganized and kinda dull. Only like three were ok but that's about it. Something about them just feel off, but one thing for sure art and animation was superb! What are you guys thoughts on this matter?

[sintzu]

I agree,they aren't as good as I thought they were thanks to Toriyama showing us what can be done in a DB movie but the villains' designs were great but that's to be expected cause they were from Toriyama.

[Avery]

Most, if not all of them were kinda the same. The same building up, the same one-dimensional villain, the same ending...etc
RoF is not that much better, actually. Hell, it was even worse to me since I had high expectations after hearing that Toriyama put "a lot of effort" into it, and that even Torishima praised the movie. What I got was a real slap to the face. Yes, I knew the story would be trash the moment they announced the movie's title, but just about everything else was trash. It was just...boring. Just like the old movies.

BoG was overall good though. An interesting villain, character interactions, a different ending (!) and just lots of fun.
_{^{both movies had crap animation, though...}}

[ekrolo2]

BoG is the best one for sure. FnF is on the same tier as the shitty 90s Toei movies imo. If it was just a side story not really relevant to the big picture I'd probably call it the best of the "generic DBZ movies" but as a follow up to BoG it's a piece of crap. I'd easily put Dead Zone, Worlds Strongest, Cooler 1, Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon above it purely on an enjoyment & visual level.

[Bullza]

I never thought any of the original 13 movies were any good. They certainly don't compare to the new movies at all but they were alright for what they were.

They weren't "real" movies, they were like 2-3 episodes of filler put together but with better animation. They all pretty much played out the same way so they were repetitive and the villains were mediocre

Had they had the same 90 minuteish runtime that the new movies get then they could have been pretty interesting but they weren't.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Yeah looking back on them now the lack of Toriyama is abundantly clear. I tried watching some old movies the other day but ended up watching BoG again, Bullza is spot on they really do feel like filler especially due their shorter run time. The last movie had some potential but even that ended up turning into the generic non personality villain appears and Goku must defeat him movie with little humour.

[irreality]

I think it is that when Toriyama is not involved, something is lost about the characterization of the protagonists -- to me, that is what makes filler and early movies uninteresting. Some manage to hit the mark, but generally the people in the movie just feel like strangers -- or maybe some of the magic or lightheartedness is missing.

[fadeddreams5]

I still prefer Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon over the new movies. Maybe Bojack Unbound over F too.

[HybridSaiyan]

To be honest, I prefer all of the 13 older movies over BoG and RoF.
Animation was superior, the music was a lot more fierce (American Track) It set the mood a whole lot better in my opinion.
Seriously, if you compare the fight scenes in Broly the Legendary Super Saiyan to the fights in BoG. The Broly movie dominates in every aspect, offering up that heavy violence and gore.

[fadeddreams5]

In terms of battles, I think all the older movies are better than F.

[HybridSaiyan]

In terms of battles, I think all the older movies are better than F.

In terms of voice acting too. Well..I grew up watching the old Funi Dub so i'm all for Goku's "Heroic personality" I just can't accept how Sean portraits him now, it's like Goku is losing all sense of his pureness by swearing. :/ Not the hero I grew up watching. And I know the manga deals with him that way..but, I don't know. I'm not a fan of it.

[voltlunok]

In terms of writing, BoG is top dog. BoG has a lot of great character interaction and actually makes me want a DB movie that's literally just...the characters having a normal day. No big world threat. In terms of content though...that's where the term 'your mileage may vary.' factors in. BoG has a lot to like but a lot to dislike as well and that's gonna be up to each individual. Now is RoF better? From what I hear not really....I personally haven't seen the movie yet but early reports from friends who say it's very akin to movies 1-13 and that it's enjoyable but really doesn't add anything to the world.

So how do they compare to the old movies? BoG does do a lot better then movies 1-13 but according to the coming reports, RoF might as well be the number 14 of the 90s movies. I might edit my opinion here once I finally see RoF for myself.

[FoolsGil]

None of them compare. Tree of Might can be considered one of the best and it's nowhere near Resurrection of F in fight scenes or Battle of Gods in story.

[HybridSaiyan]

Godku and Bluper Saiyan don't give off the right feels for me. Just Akira pulling strings from his a$$. I'd take Kaioken and false Super Saiyan over them both any day.

[Doctor.]

I don't feel it's alright to put Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' in the same bag (nor the old movies). Battle of Gods actually felt like a film, like it had a story it wanted to tell and it told it properly, with some fantastic character interaction and development. Some of the old movies are like this, too, Wrath of the Dragon being an example (the two TV specials too, of course). But the majority of them are very formulaic and just end up copying the big moments from the arc they're set in, Battle of Gods is an original movie, Resurrection 'F' is just as formulaic, unoriginal and treats its characters like shit just like the original 13.

So basically what I want to say is that I'd take BoG over the old movies in an instant, but I wouldn't take F.

[Hellspawn28]

I like the newer movies over the older 13 DBZ movies. A lot of the older films don't age very well at all. I would say that Garlic Jr, Dr. Uiro, Janemba and Hirudegarn are probably the most interesting out of the 13 villains. Turles is boring, Lord Slug is a bad rehash of Piccolo Daimao and 23rd Tenkachi Budokai Piccolo, Coola is a water down version of his brother, Metal Coola is a rehash of Cyborg Freeza (Both Coola and Freeza got destoryed into pieces from SSj Goku and both where drifiting into space until they where reborn as a cyborg), #13 was a rehash of Cell (Both can transform into their ultimate form by absorbing two other cybrogs and both where design from Gero to kill Goku), Broli felt like a waste of potential and Bojack was really lame.

Beerus himself is a great character with a lot of personality and is pretty original. The rest of BOG was nicely done since it had a good mix of humor and action. ROF is far from perfect, but I would still watch it over the older films. ROF made Freeza feel like a real threat again and it didn't come off as predicable.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I treat the old films as 50 minute filler episodes for the anime. That doesn't mean that they're bad, they're really entertaining for what they are. Battle of Gods to me feels like a movie. For F they went back to the whole fight over story like the old films and unlike BoG which was story over fighting. This is why I believe F for the most part is doing so well. People don't want a Dragon Ball movie they want a Dragon Ball ZEEEEE movie. Action, Action, Action! and some comedy thrown into the mix. Just like the old films but with a much longer running time.

[Lord Beerus]

BOG is head and shoulders above the previous DBZ movies in terms of story, antagonist(s), humor, chemistry in the cast and overall, just feeling like raw and true extension of Dragon Ball. Not to mention it building the universe and have a bit of twist ending. However, I still find great entertainment in quite a few of the Toei movies, particularly Wrath Of The Dragon, Fusion Reborn, The Worlds Strongest and Bojack Unbound. I haven't watched ROF, and have only read the summary of the film and seen brief snippets of it, so I can't really judge that film in comparison to the other 50-60 minutes Toei DBZ movies.

[DoomieDoomie911]

They certainly have a different feel than Battle of Gods (I haven't seem Revival of F). I think that has to do with the fact that Toriyama wasn't involved nearly as much as with the new movies (that's an understatement), plus the fact that they're brand new with modern animation. Not to mention the fact that Battle of Gods was the first movie in 17 years.

[SaintEvolution]

Well...let's see...