The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[LightBing]

Haven't visited this thread in a while.

SSJ Goten [Post RoSaT] vs SSJ Kid Gohan [CG].
SSJ Kid Trunks [Post RoSaT] vs SSJ Kid Gohan [CG].

I have Goten and Trunks even after RoSaT, because of Goten's extra motivation from his mother's death. So it's basically the same match.The RoSaT was effective because of the multiplying effect provided by the fusion, individually they didn't get much stronger.Gohan comes on top with a relatively easy fight. I have the kids at Vegeta and Trunks level during the Cell games.

[Captain Space]

You vs. Mr. Satan

Not me.

Goten vs Kid Trunks

Both are Post RoSaT and SSJ is not allowed.

Trunks. Goten's an idiot.

Vegeta(saga mecha freeza) vs Piccolo(saga mecha freeza)
Vegeta SSJ(cell games) vs Kamiccolo(cell games)

I don't think the power standings changed at all between the people on Earth between Namek and Trunks' arrival, and Cell mentions Vegeta and Trunks as the strongest next to Gohan and Goku at the Cell Games, so Vegeta in both cases.

Goten SSJ(25 TB) vs Goku SSJ(cell games)

I would hesitantly put Goten above Goku in power, but not by a ridiculous amount, so probably Goku, who's generally a much more capable fighter.

[ahill1]

Gohan base(android arc) vs Trunks base(android arc)
Vegeta(saga mecha freeza) vs Piccolo(saga mecha freeza)

[h0kuten]

Goku & Vegeta (Namek) vs Ginyu & Jeice

P.S. Goku cannot use the Kaio-Ken.

[ahill1]

Goku
~Vs ginyus 66,000
~Full power 90,000

Vegeta(vs jeice) 50,000

Ginyu 120,000

Jeice 40,000

Good fight; But I think Ginyu and Jeice would win

[singsing]

Goku & Vegeta (Namek) vs Ginyu & Jeice

P.S. Goku cannot use the Kaio-Ken.

Jeice is one shot fodder for Ginyu, so it ends up being the same as in the manga, except this time, since Goku doesn't use the Kaioken to scare the crap outta Ginyu and make him body swap, and since he was already putting up a good fight as it was and shown to be faster than Ginyu, with Vegeta's backup the two cinch the win.

[Lord Beerus]

Gohan base(android arc) vs Trunks base(android arc)
Vegeta(saga mecha freeza) vs Piccolo(saga mecha freeza)

- Gohan gets his ass handed to him by Trunks
- Piccolo gets beaten but goes down fighting hard

[Hellspawn28]

Ben 10 gaulet DB universe?

I feel like Roshi alone would be able to one-shot anyone from that godawful franchise.

Aren't the Anodites and Alien X from Ben 10 supposed to be really powerful? I hear Alien X can able to warp reality, time, and space with ease and at any level he wishes, and that he was able to recreate the whole universe. It sounds like Alien X could solo all of the Dragon Ball.

[Sayo-chan]

Ben 10 gaulet DB universe?

I feel like Roshi alone would be able to one-shot anyone from that godawful franchise.

Aren't the Anodites and Alien X from Ben 10 supposed to be really powerful? I hear Alien X can able to warp reality, time, and space with ease and at any level he wishes, and that he was able to recreate the whole universe. It sounds like Alien X could solo all of the Dragon Ball.

It's hard to say with inconsistent, low budget Cartoon Network programs. I feel like someone would have a better time making sense of Ren and Stimpy. That said, a direct hit from Roshi's powered up Kamehameha would atomize most of them.

[Sandubadear]

Ness (from Earthbound) psychic fight:

VS General Blue
VS Chaozu
VS Guldo
VS Babidi
VS Supreme Kai

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Well yes I agree Super Saiyan 2 Gohan would one-shot Goten, but their sparring session which was in equal forms look fairly even.

Just because Gohan was SSJ during their sparring session, doesn't mean he was at full power. He could have easily been in a powered down state, assuming he underestimates Goten's power. When Gohan/Goku exited the RoSaT 7 years prior, I had the impression they could freely control SSJ however they wanted. We have zero evidence that Goten is close to Gohan in strength. We do know both kids are stronger than the Androids, but how much stronger is what we don't know.

[Sayo-chan]

Well, Ness gets curb stomped by Wario in the Subspace Emisarry. He's typically D tier in most of the games so... I'm pretty sure he'd lose to Guldo, Kaioshin and Bobidi. Maybe he'd be equal with Blue and perhaps have the edge over Chaozu.

Well yes I agree Super Saiyan 2 Gohan would one-shot Goten, but their sparring session which was in equal forms look fairly even.

Just because Gohan was SSJ during their sparring session, doesn't mean he was at full power. He could have easily been in a powered down state, assuming he underestimates Goten's power. When Gohan/Goku exited the RoSaT 7 years prior, I had the impression they could freely control SSJ however they wanted. We have zero evidence that Goten is close to Gohan in strength. We do know both kids are stronger than the Androids, but how much stronger is what we don't know.

If they are, it's not by much. I feel like 18 going all out would beat them individually, even if they are stronger.

[iop890]

I was going to make a thread on this, but I figured I'd just post it here first to see what kind of answers I get.

Science vs. Magic in the DB universe

[Doctor.]

I was going to make a thread on this, but I figured I'd just post it here first to see what kind of answers I get.

Science vs. Magic in the DB universe

I would have said magic until Toriyama retconned Boo into a being who has existed since the beginning of the universe, so I'll say science, Cell is more powerful than any being in the DB universe created with magic. So far, at least.

[Noah]

If they are, it's not by much. I feel like 18 going all out would beat them individually, even if they are stronger.

I agree with those statements... Are really Gohan and Vegeta fully powered when they sparred with Goten and Trunks? Also maybe I think 18 could beat them individually (Pre-RoSaT)

[Hellspawn28]

Well, Ness gets curb stomped by Wario in the Subspace Emisarry. He's typically D tier in most of the games so... I'm pretty sure he'd lose to Guldo, Kaioshin and Bobidi. Maybe he'd be equal with Blue and perhaps have the edge over Chaozu.

Smash Bros is not really canon. I think we have to base Ness on the Earthbound games and not Smash. The poster never mention Smash, just Earthbound/Mother.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Given #18 felt threatened for her own life by Trunks' suppressed Ki blast, coupled with Trunks saying that #18 would only survive if he did the blast properly, I'd have to personally disagree with the notion of Android #18 being anywhere close to the kids.

Gohan holding back against Goten? That sounds like an excuse to nerf the kids. Why would Goten vs. Gohan be the one sparring scene where there's a vast power gap yet they're shown fighting evenly? (Without any indication of Gohan giving any less than Goten?) If Goten is barely stronger than #18, why is Gohan choosing him as a sparring partner over Piccolo, who'd be a much more effective partner?

[iop890]

I was going to make a thread on this, but I figured I'd just post it here first to see what kind of answers I get.

Science vs. Magic in the DB universe

I would have said magic until Toriyama retconned Boo into a being who has existed since the beginning of the universe, so I'll say science, Cell is more powerful than any being in the DB universe created with magic. So far, at least.

I thought about that too, but even though Buu existed since "time immemorial", he still seems like a magical being.

Though on the the other hand, we have science doing crazy shit like making time machines (There's magic time travel as well, but that's only shown in DBO/Xenoverse as far as I know.).

[singsing]

I mean, Buu still appears to have magical powers and shit, and that Potara appear to be magical in nature. I think magic takes this. Advanced fusion + chocolate beam + materialization and etc? Easy.

[h0kuten]

Given #18 felt threatened for her own life by Trunks' suppressed Ki blast, coupled with Trunks saying that #18 would only survive if he did the blast properly, I'd have to personally disagree with the notion of Android #18 being anywhere close to the kids.

Gohan holding back against Goten? That sounds like an excuse to nerf the kids. Why would Goten vs. Gohan be the one sparring scene where there's a vast power gap yet they're shown fighting evenly? (Without any indication of Gohan giving any less than Goten?) If Goten is barely stronger than #18, why is Gohan choosing him as a sparring partner over Piccolo, who'd be a much more effective partner?

You're notoriously known to over-power the kids. It was a sparring session. Statements are true until contradicted.