Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
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AnIceColdBeerus
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Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
So in Dragon Ball Z Resurrection F, I assumed that blue-hair Goku was just SSG but him doing it on his own. However, I heard that since Goku went SSG in BoG he's always at that god strength and going blue-hair is just going Super Saiyan already at that god state. So what is it?
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fadeddreams5
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Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
The way I see it, while he's in his base form, he's leagues above his original SSJ3 form. Perhaps even 25-50% SSJG. SSGSS taps into the rest of it.
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Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
After absorbing the power of Super Saiyan God, his power decreased insignificantly, to the point that he no longer needs to transform into a Super Saiyan God, even though he can now transform on his own. Transforming into a Super Saiyna 1/2/3 also barely increases his power, if at all. Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is SS combined with the power of SSG, and it is stronger than SSG, but it dosn't give a x50 increase anymore, the increase is smaller than x2. Goku can go SSGSS2 & SSGSS3, but these forms drain his ki and don't provide the same huge increases SS2 & SS3 gave in the past, so he abandoned them.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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AnIceColdBeerus
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Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
So can he still can he go SS w/ gold hair or is it always blue now?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:After absorbing the power of Super Saiyan God, his power decreased insignificantly, to the point that he no longer needs to transform into a Super Saiyan God, even though he can now transform on his own. Transforming into a Super Saiyna 1/2/3 also barely increases his power, if at all. Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is SS combined with the power of SSG, and it is stronger than SSG, but it dosn't give a x50 increase anymore, the increase is smaller than x2. Goku can go SSGSS2 & SSGSS3, but these forms drain his ki and don't provide the same huge increases SS2 & SS3 gave in the past, so he abandoned them.
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Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
It's uncertain whether he can still go SSJ. I would think not, but there's nothing proving that he wouldn't be able to.
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Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
The short answer to most of this is just that we honestly don't know. We assumed a lot of things after Battle of Gods and Toriyama gave some supplemental information in interviews around that time as well, but we don't know how much of that still holds true now that we have Resurrection F. Promotion for the SSGSS form hasn't been too clear and contradictory at best some times. Toriyama's plans for how the god power situation was to be handled could have easily changed once it was confirmed there would actually be another movie to work on.
It will be interesting to see how the situation is handled with Super and addressed in potential companion guides now that they have the whole picture in view. Perhaps in Super, once Super Saiyan God wears off, Goku's hair will go blue when he transforms into a Super Saiyan. Who knows.
It will be interesting to see how the situation is handled with Super and addressed in potential companion guides now that they have the whole picture in view. Perhaps in Super, once Super Saiyan God wears off, Goku's hair will go blue when he transforms into a Super Saiyan. Who knows.
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Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
Why is it uncertain? He clearly does it in BoG.fadeddreams5 wrote:It's uncertain whether he can still go SSJ. I would think not, but there's nothing proving that he wouldn't be able to.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
That was before his training with Whis. F seems implies that's just his SSJ form. He didn't go SSJ and then tap into god ki, or vice-versa. He just went SSJ.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Why is it uncertain? He clearly does it in BoG.fadeddreams5 wrote:It's uncertain whether he can still go SSJ. I would think not, but there's nothing proving that he wouldn't be able to.
But again, I'm probably completely wrong. We'll see in Super, I guess.
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Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
It seems to imply that it's not exactly "just" his SS form.fadeddreams5 wrote:That was before his training with Whis. F seems implies that's just his SSJ form. He didn't go SSJ and then tap into god ki, or vice-versa. He just went SSJ.
Freeza: “…So, you’ve become a Super Saiyan after all…”
Goku: “Hehehe…Actually, this here’s a bit different. It’s tough to explain, but I’m a Super Saiyan who’s a Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God.”
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Goku Super Saiyan God Questions
The way I see it, Goku was a regular Super Saiyan when he performed the God ritual and became a regular Super Saiyan God. Because of this, he cannot fully tap into that power when in his base form but most of it. Like 70-80% I'd say. As he kept on practicing with this newly acquired power as a regular Super Saiyan, the form started mixing with the God Ki and thus, Bluper Saiyan was born.
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