The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[LonelyShadow]

I don't have the specific quote, I just remember that line being in the dub only, and I'm too lazy to check my DVDs. You can look through the strength checker here.

He apparently got his dormant power unlocked. He was strong enough to one-shot GT Trunks who is incredibly haxed to Ultimate Gohan tier+.

Whoa whoa whoa. Are you saying that Android 17 with his "dormant power" (Gero is the awesome) is Ultimate Gohan tier or is it Super Saiyan GT Trunks?

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Whoa whoa whoa. Are you saying that Android 17 with his "dormant power" (Gero is the awesome) is Ultimate Gohan tier or is it Super Saiyan GT Trunks?

I'm saying SS GT Trunks is Ultimate Gohan tier or above. SS Goten-Baby was strong enough to force a trained Gohan (thus stronger than his Ultimate self) to use Super Saiyan to fully over power him, so if the gap between Goten and Trunks stayed consistent between Z and GT, Trunks would naturally be strong enough to do that himself.

Android #17 one-shotted Base Trunks.

[ahill1]

Kuririn(23rd TB) vs Piccolo Daimao ( young )

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Didn't you ask that already? Almost everyone agree Yamcha and Krillin are still weaker than Young Daimao at the 23rd TB.

[ahill1]

I do not know; Kami released Goku away with a finger, but was not able to do the same with Yamcha. Piccolo Junior, which is several times stronger than his father, was annoyed with the strength of Krillin.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Neither Shen nor Piccolo were at full power against Krillin or Yamcha (Kami-sama was also weaker in Shen's body). Piccolo's "concern" over Krillin's strength is pretty much the same as Zarbon/Freeza's concern over the Saiyans. They're nowhere close in power but can potentially pose a threat in the future.

[ahill1]

Kami didn't use full power against Goku also. What do you think of these numbers?
Piccolo Daimo (young) 200
Krillin (23rd TB) 180
Yamcha (23rd TB) 166

[Saiyan007]

Where would you guys place Kid Goku in his first appearence with SSJG?

Weaker than Fry.

Who's that?

[Kid Buu]

Yamcha (beginning of Saiyan Arc) vs. Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)

[RandomGuy96]

Yamcha (beginning of Saiyan Arc) vs. Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)

Well, their official power levels are 177 and 180 respectively. The difference in power really doesn't matter since it's tiny, so it'll come down to skill. In that regard I think Tenshinhan has a clear advantage. Unless he gets hit by the Sokidan, which I don't see as likely compared to the odds of Yamcha getting hit by any of Ten's many moves. Yamcha's ki amplification skills also appear to be really weak, which is another advantage for Ten.

[Zephyr]

Jokes aside, Yamcha's still a pretty good fighter compared to normal people. I doubt someone with his abilities, after training with 2 martial arts master gods, would be weaker than someone from relatively the same stock, who had not.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Yamcha (beginning of Saiyan Arc) vs. Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)

Tenshinhan gets flattened. Best case scenario this ends up like 50% true form Freeza vs. Base Goku in my opinion. The power gap is that vast.

Yamcha by the beginning of Z is closing in on, if not on par, with post-Sacred Water Goku.

[ZombieVito]

Yamcha (beginning of Saiyan Arc) vs. Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)

This should be a good fight since Tenshinhan's advantage is a mere 3 points.

Tenshinhan is far more skilled though. That should secure him the victory in the end.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

He apparently got his dormant power unlocked. He was strong enough to one-shot GT Trunks who is incredibly haxed to Ultimate Gohan tier+.

His dormant powers were supposed to be released after merging with Hellfighter #17. There was no stated increase in #17's power before the merging (from what I recall).

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

His dormant powers were supposed to be released after merging with Hellfighter #17. There was no stated increase in #17's power before the merging (from what I recall).

It has to be the case given his feats against Trunks. (That or he was just haxxed).

[Captain Space]

His dormant powers were supposed to be released after merging with Hellfighter #17. There was no stated increase in #17's power before the merging (from what I recall).

It has to be the case given his feats against Trunks. (That or he was just haxxed).

Or they just didn't think about exactly how strong they wanted Trunks to be, but from the chain of feats we can extrapolate that #17 must have somehow trained or something up to that level (in the same way that Goten, Trunks, etc. can apparently just do that without achieving any new forms or anything), whether the writers actually had that in mind or not.

[ahill1]

Yamcha (Boz) crushes Tenshinhan (22nd TB); I have

Tenshinhan (22nd TB) 70
Yamcha (Boz) 177

[LonelyShadow]

Broly (movie 10) vs Good Buu

Toei SSJ3 Goku (movie 13) vs Buutenks

Mr Satan (young) vs Nam

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Yamcha (Boz) crushes Tenshinhan (22nd TB); I have

Tenshinhan (22nd TB) 70
Yamcha (Boz) 177

I personally put Yamcha at 190. Krillin just under 200, maybe 198.
Also, 22nd TB Tien was confirmed to be at 180, same for Jackie Chun and Goku who have roughly the same PL.

I don't see Yamcha remaining the same power level for the entire 5 years. He could have still trained, we don't know.

[ZombieVito]

Yamcha (Boz) crushes Tenshinhan (22nd TB); I have

Tenshinhan (22nd TB) 70
Yamcha (Boz) 177

I personally put Yamcha at 190. Krillin just under 200, maybe 198.
Also, 22nd TB Tenshinhan was confirmed to be at 180, same for Jackie Chun and Goku who have roughly the same PL.

I don't see Yamcha remaining the same power level for the entire 5 years. He could have still trained, we don't know.

Not exactly. He is confirmed at 139 in D7 and his 180 BP from WJ can be when he's using a Kamehameha or his Buff form.