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ON TOPIC: Super Saiyan 3 Adult Gohan(Piccolo Gear)? Well this might be Gohan if he HAD trained seriously for 7 Years after Cell. I like it, can't wait to see what his special move is for this version.
OFF TOPIC: Real quick question. Was Tights mentioned at all(or big sister) by Bulma or Jaco during their conversation in the Japanese dub of Fukkatsu no F(Resurrection F)? Yes or No is preferable.
OFF TOPIC: Real quick question. Was Tights mentioned at all(or big sister) by Bulma or Jaco during their conversation in the Japanese dub of Fukkatsu no F(Resurrection F)? Yes or No is preferable.
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GoldLiger wrote:OFF TOPIC: Real quick question. Was Tights mentioned at all(or big sister) by Bulma or Jaco during their conversation in the Japanese dub of Fukkatsu no F(Resurrection F)? Yes or No is preferable.
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There's no need for going off topic in such a way here. It's not that hard to ask such a thing in the appropriate topic.
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Can Gohan (or Goten, Trunks, Pan, Goku Jr, etc) even go SS4? Baby could use SS, SS2, and Golden Oozaru, which Gohan can as well, but he couldn't use SS4 because of his Tsufruian cells. Gohan even got his dormant powers released far, faa~aar beyond their limits, yet he didn't reach SS4 level, but he surpassed the SS3 level. Saiyan Halflings are said to have greater dormant powers than the full-blooded Saiyans, but that was before SS4. Maybe the Saiyan Halflings have greater dormant powers and can far surpass the full-blooded Saiyans in base-SS3, but the full-blooded Saiyans can then only surpass them with SS4? Only full-blooded Saiyans have gotten SS4 so far after all, Goku, Vegeta, Gogeta, and Broli.Hellspawn28 wrote:Why SSj3 Gohan and not SSj4 GT Gohan?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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OFF Topic: True but it was just a simple question that is all I asked.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:There's no need for going off topic in such a way here. It's not that hard to ask such a thing in the appropriate topic.
ON Topic: Do you guys feel that Dimps is giving Toriyama the middle finger because of how Gohan turned out in the end?
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Well the requirements for the Hybrid SS form is just two things:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Can Gohan (or Goten, Trunks, Pan, Goku Jr, etc) even go SS4? Baby could use SS, SS2, and Golden Oozaru, which Gohan can as well, but he couldn't use SS4 because of his Tsufruian cells. Gohan even got his dormant powers released far, faa~aar beyond their limits, yet he didn't reach SS4 level, but he surpassed the SS3 level. Saiyan Halflings are said to have greater dormant powers than the full-blooded Saiyans, but that was before SS4. Maybe the Saiyan Halflings have greater dormant powers and can far surpass the full-blooded Saiyans in base-SS3, but the full-blooded Saiyans can then only surpass them with SS4? Only full-blooded Saiyans have gotten SS4 so far after all, Goku, Vegeta, Gogeta, and Broli.Hellspawn28 wrote:Why SSj3 Gohan and not SSj4 GT Gohan?
1. Super Saiyan unlocked
2. Control over the Great Ape
It was never officially stated that it HAD to be a pure blooded Saiyan.
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Vegeta-Baby had these, yet he couldn't transform because the Tsufruian cells were interfering.GoldLiger wrote:Well the requirements for the Hybrid SS form is just two things:
1. Super Saiyan unlocked
2. Control over the Great Ape
It was never officially stated that it HAD to be a pure blooded Saiyan.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Baby didn't have a tail.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Vegeta-Baby had these, yet he couldn't transform because the Tsufruian cells were interfering.GoldLiger wrote:Well the requirements for the Hybrid SS form is just two things:
1. Super Saiyan unlocked
2. Control over the Great Ape
It was never officially stated that it HAD to be a pure blooded Saiyan.
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And? He transformed into a Golden Oozaru after taking a huge dose of bruitz waves. Him being unable to go SS4 because the Tsufruian cells were interfering isn't something I made up, it was stated in the series.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Baby didn't have a tail.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Well it wasn't his body to begin with. Remember the body is Vegeta's not Baby's.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:And? He transformed into a Golden Oozaru after taking a huge dose of bruitz waves. Him being unable to go SS4 because the Tsufruian cells were interfering isn't something I made up, it was stated in the series.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Baby didn't have a tail.
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He didn't have any problem with going Golden Oozaru in Vegeta's body, or Super Saiyan in Goten's & Gohan's bodies. Like I said, the issue that Baby had was that his Tsufruian cells were interfering. Maybe the Earthling cells would interfere as well. This is just a theory of course, but I find this likely is because Ultimate Gohan is stronger than a Super Saiyan 3, but weaker than a Super Saiyan 4. SS3 draw out the dormant powers to their limits in the manga (where SS4 doesn't exist), and SS4 does the same in the anime, while Ultimate draws them out far, faa~aar beyond their limits. If Gohan can go SS4, he should be stronger than it in his Ultimate state.GoldLiger wrote:Well it wasn't his body to begin with. Remember the body is Vegeta's not Baby's.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:And? He transformed into a Golden Oozaru after taking a huge dose of bruitz waves. Him being unable to go SS4 because the Tsufruian cells were interfering isn't something I made up, it was stated in the series.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Baby didn't have a tail.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Like I said "Not his body". Vegeta wasn't in control, for the most part he was unconscious. The whole Golden Great Ape can be explained away with "Vegeta's body was in SS form when Baby took control". As long as Vegeta's wasn't conscious then going SS4 would be impossible. Along with that going SS4 required that the SAIYAN(which Baby is not as he mentions that he is the parasite) is in conscious control of the Super Great Ape then he will become a Super Saiyan 4.
There ya go, easy explanation.
There ya go, easy explanation.
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But the series has given us a different explanation...GoldLiger wrote:Like I said "Not his body". Vegeta wasn't in control, for the most part he was unconscious. The whole Golden Great Ape can be explained away with "Vegeta's body was in SS form when Baby took control". As long as Vegeta's wasn't conscious then going SS4 would be impossible. Along with that going SS4 required that the SAIYAN(which Baby is not as he mentions that he is the parasite) is in conscious control of the Super Great Ape then he will become a Super Saiyan 4.
There ya go, easy explanation.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Ok now they really have to give Teen/Adult Goten SSJ3. He's literally the only Saiyan Z Fighter without it.
Alternatively I'd love to see even SSJ1 or SSJ2 EoZ Goten
Alternatively I'd love to see even SSJ1 or SSJ2 EoZ Goten
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So, I've noticed Veku and fat Gotenks are on the roster... but no skinny Gotenks.
I know it's such a minor character to include, but I would love to have him on there! I do enjoy using more obscure characters in my fights on UM1/2, and would love to on the actual arcade version when I go to Japan.
Just a random shot, but here's a fun somewhat-random team I used a few times recently:

I know it's such a minor character to include, but I would love to have him on there! I do enjoy using more obscure characters in my fights on UM1/2, and would love to on the actual arcade version when I go to Japan.
Just a random shot, but here's a fun somewhat-random team I used a few times recently:

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That's kind of different though. Baby Vegeta had "pure Saiyan cells/blood" and "Tsufuru cells/blood" and apparently the Tsufuru cells stopped him from going SSJ4. The half-Saiyans don't have "human" cells and "pure Saiyan" cells, they just have "Half-Saiyan" cells. It's not really the same situation as Baby Vegeta's.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He didn't have any problem with going Golden Oozaru in Vegeta's body, or Super Saiyan in Goten's & Gohan's bodies. Like I said, the issue that Baby had was that his Tsufruian cells were interfering. Maybe the Earthling cells would interfere as well. This is just a theory of course, but I find this likely is because Ultimate Gohan is stronger than a Super Saiyan 3, but weaker than a Super Saiyan 4. SS3 draw out the dormant powers to their limits in the manga (where SS4 doesn't exist), and SS4 does the same in the anime, while Ultimate draws them out far, faa~aar beyond their limits. If Gohan can go SS4, he should be stronger than it in his Ultimate state.
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I'm calling a SSJ3 Toki bird next. 
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hoping there is another page since we were already aware of everything on that one because of Jump Carnival. Even if there is though, I doubt there will be anything interesting.
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That just leaves our mystery middle guy. Interested in seeing that supposed new Dabra though.
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