Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
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SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:
What are your gaps?
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:
What are your gaps?
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SS Gohan: 2,800Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:
What are your gaps?
SS Goku: 2,000
Cell:
-vs Goku: 2,400
-full power: 3,600
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Gohan: 3,000Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:
What are your gaps?
Goku: 2,500
Cell, vs Goku: 2,625
-- vs Gohan: 3,150
Didn't you ask for these already?
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I honestly can't remember. Don't you have Goku and Cell too close? Cell also never powered up vs Gohan. He only increased his speed.Doctor. wrote:Gohan: 3,000Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:
What are your gaps?
Goku: 2,500
Cell, vs Goku: 2,625
-- vs Gohan: 3,150
Didn't you ask for these already?
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Goku and Cell had a pretty even fight, I'm not sure why they wouldn't be so close. If he increased his speed, then his battle power obviously goes up as well. He powers-up twice more in the fight against Gohan (when he goes SS2), but I'm not sure if you want those numbers or not.
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Having re-read the fight recently, it's a lot more one-sided than most people remember. Goku made it look slightly more even than it was by using teleportation to get in some cheap shots, but that shouldn't be dependent on his power level. If you don't count IT blows, he only landed one hit in the entire battle, and only after he made Cell waste tons of ki by blowing him in half with a Warp Kamehameha. He was also quite clearly being outmaneuvered, with Cell even doing the "disappear and reappear behind you" trick. With his arms crossed.Doctor. wrote:Goku and Cell had a pretty even fight, I'm not sure why they wouldn't be so close.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Perhaps a 10% to 15% difference between the two should have been more appropriate.
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I prefer:
Goku
~Ssj 100
Kid Gohan
~Ssj 150
~Ssj2 300
~Enraged 600
Perfect Cell
~Powered Up 110
~Increased Speed 125
~Real Speed 175
~Full Power 225
Super Perfect
~Full Power 450
Goku
~Ssj 100
Kid Gohan
~Ssj 150
~Ssj2 300
~Enraged 600
Perfect Cell
~Powered Up 110
~Increased Speed 125
~Real Speed 175
~Full Power 225
Super Perfect
~Full Power 450
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Too big the gap between Goku and Cell imo; Cell was only 1 or 2 steps ahead of Goku; I think the fight between the two looks like Vegeta (initial) vs. Zarbon (handsome) - a distance of 12% would be perfect.RandomGuy96 wrote:SS Gohan: 2,800Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:
What are your gaps?
SS Goku: 2,000
Cell:
-vs Goku: 2,400
-full power: 3,600
Goku can't hit Cell. Cell can't hit Gohan - the gap between father and son is pretty big - 1,5x is a good place to start. Gohan defend Cell's hits with no effort, look how effortlessly he looks as he blocks Cell's hits, huh?
Goku is at 88% of Cell
Cell is 75% of Gohan
Cell real speed is equal to Gohan
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Yet Gohan gets kicked aside easily when he tries to stop Cell right before A16 grabs him. Cell never powered up after he fought Goku and before Gohan turned SSJ2.
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Yeah he did. Vegeta tells Cui that if his power has increased so his speed also increased which means increased speed leads to increase of power.Zombie wrote:Yet Gohan gets kicked aside easily when he tries to stop Cell right before A16 grabs him. Cell never powered up after he fought Goku and before Gohan turned SSJ2.
Cell not referred to power because speed was what he wasn't competing with Gohan
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No one noticed a power increase.
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Precisely. I just think Gohan is fast for his size.Zombie wrote:No one noticed a power increase.
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But you just posted 2 power ups for Cell...h0kuten wrote:Precisely. I just think Gohan is fast for his size.Zombie wrote:No one noticed a power increase.
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What do you guys use for your SSJG multiplier?I remember the SEG saying that fusion(potara) is a multiplier and ssjg is above that wouldn't that make ssjg multiplier at the very least in the trillions?
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I did yes. Because that is the general belief atm. Would an increase of speed equate to an increase of his power level?Zombie wrote:But you just posted 2 power ups for Cell...h0kuten wrote:Precisely. I just think Gohan is fast for his size.Zombie wrote:No one noticed a power increase.
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Nope. Cell did it and he did not increased his power at all.
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I think he did a power up; Power is related to speed.
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Then I guess everyone including Gohan were asleep then.
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SS Goku: 100Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:
What are your gaps?
SS Gohan: 150
Perfect Cell (vs. Goku): 112.5
Perfect Cell (vs. Gohan): 150




