Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:43 pm

SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:

What are your gaps?

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:45 pm

Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:

What are your gaps?
SS Gohan: 2,800

SS Goku: 2,000

Cell:
-vs Goku: 2,400
-full power: 3,600
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:47 pm

Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:

What are your gaps?
Gohan: 3,000
Goku: 2,500

Cell, vs Goku: 2,625
-- vs Gohan: 3,150

Didn't you ask for these already?

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:52 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:

What are your gaps?
Gohan: 3,000
Goku: 2,500

Cell, vs Goku: 2,625
-- vs Gohan: 3,150

Didn't you ask for these already?
I honestly can't remember. Don't you have Goku and Cell too close? Cell also never powered up vs Gohan. He only increased his speed.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:54 pm

Goku and Cell had a pretty even fight, I'm not sure why they wouldn't be so close. If he increased his speed, then his battle power obviously goes up as well. He powers-up twice more in the fight against Gohan (when he goes SS2), but I'm not sure if you want those numbers or not.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:58 pm

Doctor. wrote:Goku and Cell had a pretty even fight, I'm not sure why they wouldn't be so close.
Having re-read the fight recently, it's a lot more one-sided than most people remember. Goku made it look slightly more even than it was by using teleportation to get in some cheap shots, but that shouldn't be dependent on his power level. If you don't count IT blows, he only landed one hit in the entire battle, and only after he made Cell waste tons of ki by blowing him in half with a Warp Kamehameha. He was also quite clearly being outmaneuvered, with Cell even doing the "disappear and reappear behind you" trick. With his arms crossed.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Doctor. » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:00 pm

Perhaps a 10% to 15% difference between the two should have been more appropriate.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by h0kuten » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:00 pm

I prefer:

Goku
~Ssj 100

Kid Gohan
~Ssj 150
~Ssj2 300
~Enraged 600

Perfect Cell
~Powered Up 110
~Increased Speed 125
~Real Speed 175
~Full Power 225

Super Perfect
~Full Power 450

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ahill1 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:33 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:

What are your gaps?
SS Gohan: 2,800

SS Goku: 2,000

Cell:
-vs Goku: 2,400
-full power: 3,600
Too big the gap between Goku and Cell imo; Cell was only 1 or 2 steps ahead of Goku; I think the fight between the two looks like Vegeta (initial) vs. Zarbon (handsome) - a distance of 12% would be perfect.

Goku can't hit Cell. Cell can't hit Gohan - the gap between father and son is pretty big - 1,5x is a good place to start. Gohan defend Cell's hits with no effort, look how effortlessly he looks as he blocks Cell's hits, huh?

Goku is at 88% of Cell
Cell is 75% of Gohan
Cell real speed is equal to Gohan

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:02 pm

Yet Gohan gets kicked aside easily when he tries to stop Cell right before A16 grabs him. Cell never powered up after he fought Goku and before Gohan turned SSJ2.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ahill1 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:39 pm

Zombie wrote:Yet Gohan gets kicked aside easily when he tries to stop Cell right before A16 grabs him. Cell never powered up after he fought Goku and before Gohan turned SSJ2.
Yeah he did. Vegeta tells Cui that if his power has increased so his speed also increased which means increased speed leads to increase of power.

Cell not referred to power because speed was what he wasn't competing with Gohan

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:50 pm

No one noticed a power increase.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by h0kuten » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:02 pm

Zombie wrote:No one noticed a power increase.
Precisely. I just think Gohan is fast for his size.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:36 pm

h0kuten wrote:
Zombie wrote:No one noticed a power increase.
Precisely. I just think Gohan is fast for his size.
But you just posted 2 power ups for Cell...

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Saiyan007 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:05 am

What do you guys use for your SSJG multiplier?I remember the SEG saying that fusion(potara) is a multiplier and ssjg is above that wouldn't that make ssjg multiplier at the very least in the trillions?

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by h0kuten » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:13 am

Zombie wrote:
h0kuten wrote:
Zombie wrote:No one noticed a power increase.
Precisely. I just think Gohan is fast for his size.
But you just posted 2 power ups for Cell...
I did yes. Because that is the general belief atm. Would an increase of speed equate to an increase of his power level?

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:16 am

Nope. Cell did it and he did not increased his power at all.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ahill1 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:40 am

I think he did a power up; Power is related to speed.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:41 am

Then I guess everyone including Gohan were asleep then.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:43 pm

Zombie wrote:SSJ Gohan:
Perfect Cell [vs Goku/Gohan]:
SSJ Goku:

What are your gaps?
SS Goku: 100
SS Gohan: 150

Perfect Cell (vs. Goku): 112.5
Perfect Cell (vs. Gohan): 150

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