Just how old is King Cold?

[Kamiccolo9]

They are magicians, which makes them supernatural. Babidi is even a doppleganger of Bibidi that he created through his magic.

Okay I'm pretty sure you're making that up, and this doesn't explain why aliens can't also live a long time.

That's a direct quote from Toriyama. Perhaps, before telling people that they are making stuff up, you should read up on the subject yourself?

[Doctor.]

I know about Alexander the Great, but I didn't live in his time.

Sure, but do you warn your kids about challenging Alexander the Great?

No, but I can warn my kids about earthquakes even though I never personally experienced one.

[rereboy]

Sure, but do you warn your kids about challenging Alexander the Great?

If there was a possibility that my kids would face him one day, yes, I would. As far as King Cold knows, Beerus and Buu are alive and might cross paths with Freeza some day.

[LuckyCat]

That's a direct quote from Toriyama. Perhaps, before telling people that they are making stuff up, you should read up on the subject yourself?

I said I was "pretty sure", but if someone wishes to produce a counter statement that's fine. If someone is trying to assert a point, it's not my job to do their research and back up their point.

No, but I can warn my kids about earthquakes even though I never personally experienced one.

That's because there's tangible proof earthquakes exist. They aren't ancient legends but recorded common phenomena.

If there was a possibility that my kids would face him one day, yes, I would. As far as King Cold knows, Beerus and Buu are alive and might cross paths with Freeza some day.

But why does King Cold know? That's part of the mystery. There have been many good theories here.

[Doctor.]

That's because there's tangible proof earthquakes exist. They aren't ancient legends but recorded common phenomena.

Boo's destruction periods are also a recorded phenomenon.

[LuckyCat]

Boo's destruction periods are also a recorded phenomenon.

Besides Kaioshin, Kibito, and Babidi, who else knows about it? Or are you suggesting Cold learned from one of them? I do like this theory though. Perhaps Cold's ancestors may have just conquered most of the universe when suddenly Buu appeared and destroyed half of the space empire. After suffering great loss, Cold's family took records down in such a way that no member would ever forget Majin Buu.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Okay I'm pretty sure you're making that up, and this doesn't explain why aliens can't also live a long time.

I'm not making that up:

How was Babidi born?
Toriyama: Bibidi split in two!
Rather than a child, he’s more like Bibidi’s doppelganger. He’d split up whenever there was anything difficult for just a single person to do. He could increase the number of doppelgangers even more, but his magical powers would weaken in proportion. Now that Bibidi is dead and Babidi has become the only one, he’s regained all the original magical power.

My point is that we have no reason at all to assume that Cold & his clan can live for thousands or millions of years, not even the Kaios can live for so long. Babidi is a very powerful mage, which would explain why he can live for so long, but Cold is a mortal without any supernatural powers.

Besides Kaioshin, Kibito, and Babidi, who else knows about it? Or are you suggesting Cold learned from one of them? I do like this theory though. Perhaps Cold's ancestors may have just conquered most of the universe when suddenly Buu appeared and destroyed half of the space empire. After suffering great loss, Cold's family took records down in such a way that no member would ever forget Majin Buu.

Since Cold knows about him, this could indicate that Majin Boo is known around the universe. It's possible that one of his ancestors encoutered Boo in the past, which is why he knows about him, like with the Super Saiyan in EoB.

[Hellspawn28]

Freeza's empire own a lot of planets and a lot of those planet may had documents on Majin Buu's rampage from years ago. Some alien or alien race may have warn King Cold about Majin Buu.

[LuckyCat]

How was Babidi born?
Toriyama: Bibidi split in two!
Rather than a child, he’s more like Bibidi’s doppelganger. He’d split up whenever there was anything difficult for just a single person to do. He could increase the number of doppelgangers even more, but his magical powers would weaken in proportion. Now that Bibidi is dead and Babidi has become the only one, he’s regained all the original magical power.

My point is that we have no reason at all to assume that Cold & his clan can live for thousands or millions of years, not even the Kaios can live for so long. Babidi is a very powerful mage, which would explain why he can live for so long, but Cold is a mortal without any supernatural powers.

Nothing in that quote says anything about Babidi's lifespan. Again, if a magician can have a long lifespan, why can't an alien? In fiction, there's no assumption that "magic" means immortal any more than alien means immortal. Just look at some of Asimov's sci-fi works, for example, which include alien beings called Eternals who live aeons.

Since Cold knows about him, this could indicate that Majin Boo is known around the universe. It's possible that one of his ancestors encoutered Boo in the past, which is why he knows about him, like with the Super Saiyan in EoB.

That's definitely possible, though it would be more original and flesh out Cold's character better if he actually had a scrape with Majin Buu.

Freeza's empire own a lot of planets and a lot of those planet may had documents on Majin Buu's rampage from years ago. Some alien or alien race may have warn King Cold about Majin Buu.

That's true, and I guess if Cold were a scholar and took ancient texts seriously that would work. It is a bit hard to believe records could survive 5 million years or whatever, which is why I have problem accepting the "5 million" into head-canon. Heck, homo-eructus (first two-legged humans) fossils only date back 1.5 million years.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Nothing in that quote says anything about Babidi's lifespan. Again, if a magician can have a long lifespan, why can't an alien? In fiction, there's no assumption that "magic" means immortal any more than alien means immortal. Just look at some of Asimov's sci-fi works, for example, which include alien beings called Eternals who live aeons.

Cold being alive before Boo was sealed is an assumption. Babidi living for so long because he is a mage is an assumption. I just find the 2nd one more likely & believable.

[Hugo Boss]

I assume, given Freeza's tenacity, people from his race should have a long life span, only inferior to those of Boo and Beerus for what matters. Perhaps comparable to that of Kaioshins if they conserve their energy, which could explain King Cold's awareness of Boo.

[Hellspawn28]

It is a bit hard to believe records could survive 5 million years or whatever, which is why I have problem accepting the "5 million" into head-canon. Heck, homo-eructus (first two-legged humans) fossils only date back 1.5 million years.

Some alien planets are most likely highly advance and may had high tech technology from millions of years ago at the time. Not every planet evolves at the same rate as we do.

[Analytical Delusion]

I wouldn't be shocked if Buu's rampages were recorded as cataclysms by some planet(s) in the universe. Since Freeza is familiar with Beerus, maybe Cold is as well, and they were informed of Buu that way (it's possible Beerus just wasn't familiar with the latest incarnation since he could have been napping when Bibbidi woke Buu up, so he didn't recognize or comment on him immediately). I think that's a long shot though, so I'm going to subscribe to the recorded history theory.

[supercat]

Unless a good deal of planets during Buu's rampage had the ability to contact other planets and/or had access to some kind of universal news, I doubt the vile menace was ever a topic of discussion. Why? Because those who came in contact with him were immediately killed or presumably tortured. Having the opportunity to document the terrors of the elastic gum-looking beast were likely things that never made it onto anyone's list of priorities.

That said, if anyone had the ability to tap into such news, it would have been Cold and/or his ancestors.

[Analytical Delusion]

Unless a good deal of planets during Buu's rampage had the ability to contact other planets and/or had access to some kind of universal news, I doubt the vile menace was ever a topic of discussion. Why? Because those who came in contact with him were immediately killed or presumably tortured. Having the opportunity to document the terrors of the elastic gum-looking beast were likely things that never made it onto anyone's list of priorities.

That said, if anyone had the ability to tap into such news, it would have been Cold and/or his ancestors.

That's a good point. Perhaps Babbidi asked around a bit? He was able to operate incognito for the most part, but maybe when he was recruiting soldiers to join his army/put under his charm, he communicated that the goal was to bring back Majin Buu. I don't think Babbidi was exterminating planets (especially since he warped his fighters back to their native homes), so maybe after their champions left their home worlds, record was kept of the legend of Majin Buu. I assume there was some overlap between Freeza's/Cold's empire and the planets Babbidi scouted for fighters or for Buu's location.

[supercat]

Unless a good deal of planets during Buu's rampage had the ability to contact other planets and/or had access to some kind of universal news, I doubt the vile menace was ever a topic of discussion. Why? Because those who came in contact with him were immediately killed or presumably tortured. Having the opportunity to document the terrors of the elastic gum-looking beast were likely things that never made it onto anyone's list of priorities.

That said, if anyone had the ability to tap into such news, it would have been Cold and/or his ancestors.

That's a good point. Perhaps Babbidi asked around a bit? He was able to operate incognito for the most part, but maybe when he was recruiting soldiers to join his army/put under his charm, he communicated that the goal was to bring back Majin Buu. I don't think Babbidi was exterminating planets (especially since he warped his fighters back to their native homes), so maybe after their champions left their home worlds, record was kept of the legend of Majin Buu. I assume there was some overlap between Freeza's/Cold's empire and the planets Babbidi scouted for fighters or for Buu's location.

Well the initial speculation that I formulated off top of my head was that Cold (or his ancestors) simply caught wind of the widespread destruction of several worlds, and steered clear from that particular sector of the universe. I imagine hundreds of civilizations being vanquished would be a notable discovery that a tyrant who basically has eyes set on conquering the whole universe wouldn't miss.

That said, we're still missing the explanation on how he knew the source of the destruction by name. Buu's name must have been dropped and his identity must have been disclosed by someone or something.

Your theory does hold some validity, as it is possible that the homeworlds of Bibidi's lackeys kept some degree of documentation pertaining to the vile menace. However, that would mean that at one point or another, Cold must have colonized a planet that once served as a home for one or more of the wizard's pawns.

[Analytical Delusion]

Unless a good deal of planets during Buu's rampage had the ability to contact other planets and/or had access to some kind of universal news, I doubt the vile menace was ever a topic of discussion. Why? Because those who came in contact with him were immediately killed or presumably tortured. Having the opportunity to document the terrors of the elastic gum-looking beast were likely things that never made it onto anyone's list of priorities.

That said, if anyone had the ability to tap into such news, it would have been Cold and/or his ancestors.

That's a good point. Perhaps Babbidi asked around a bit? He was able to operate incognito for the most part, but maybe when he was recruiting soldiers to join his army/put under his charm, he communicated that the goal was to bring back Majin Buu. I don't think Babbidi was exterminating planets (especially since he warped his fighters back to their native homes), so maybe after their champions left their home worlds, record was kept of the legend of Majin Buu. I assume there was some overlap between Freeza's/Cold's empire and the planets Babbidi scouted for fighters or for Buu's location.

Well the initial speculation that I formulated off top of my head was that Cold (or his ancestors) simply caught wind of the widespread destruction of several worlds, and steered clear from that particular sector of the universe. I imagine hundreds of civilizations being vanquished would be a notable discovery that a tyrant who basically has eyes set on conquering the whole universe wouldn't miss.

That said, we're still missing the explanation on how he knew the source of the destruction by name. Buu's name must have been dropped and his identity must have been disclosed by someone or something.

Your theory does hold some validity, as it is possible that the homeworlds of Bibidi's lackeys kept some degree of documentation pertaining to the vile menace. However, that would mean that at one point or another, Cold must have colonized a planet that once served as a home for one or more of the wizard's pawns.

I think that's reasonable to believe. Though it does depend on how secretly Babbidi operated I guess, and how big Cold's empire was.

Another consideration is the Galactic Patrol might have said something or kept records.