The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:10 pm

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Berserker1921 wrote:Would Buu exist though? No ssj2 gohan. No power for Buu. The only problem will be when Beerus or Freeza comes. Then everyone dies.
Nah, with no Boo then Beerus doesn't get mad and he leaves the Earth peacefully. It also means that Freeza wouldn't train as much because Sorbet didn't tell him Goku defeated Boo, meaning Golden Freeza (if he even achieves that form) would be much weaker.
Still Goku and Vegeta by that time would have maybe reached ssj2. So golden frieza would still possibly destroy him. I mean even if he has that energy burn. He would probably be the near the level of super Buu. Do you think the heroes would last before his supposed energy drain?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:14 pm

What if the z warriors knew of the fusion dance and were given porta earrings during the cell arc? Would this have affected the story any further? Assume that everything else outside of the cell games stayed on course to golden frieza arc.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:39 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:What if the z warriors knew of the fusion dance and were given porta earrings during the cell arc? Would this have affected the story any further? Assume that everything else outside of the cell games stayed on course to golden Freeza arc.
There is no way Goku or Vegeta would EVER fuse to fight Cell; they'd view it as unfair. The humans wouldn't make much of a difference in the battle against Cell. Literally the only significant person willing to do this would be Trunks. If him and Piccolo decided to fuse, they might have stood a chance and defeated Cell.

With knowledge of fusion (and willingness to do it) at the start of the Buu saga, the crew would effortlessly defeat their opponents, assuming they teach it to Goten and Trunks, and Goku and Vegeta attain SSJ2 during this time. BoG and F would be exactly the same. Also, SSJ3 might not exist.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:54 pm

What if Yamcha and Krillin never learned the Kamehameha?
What if Yamcha was able to destroy the Saibaman he fought?
What if the Genki Dama was successful in subduing Vegeta?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:45 am

Lunatic Fringe wrote:What if Yamcha and Krillin never learned the Kamehameha?
What if Yamcha was able to destroy the Saibaman he fought?
What if the Genki Dama was successful in subduing Vegeta?
- Nothing changes. Yamcha and Krillin learning the Kamehameha never provided any significance in the plot.
- Yamcha would just get slaughtered by Nappa
- Nothing changes. Vegeta crawls to his pod, Krillins about to kill him but Goku stops him, you know how it goes.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:57 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:What if Piccolo used his Light Grenade on 17 instead and managed to kill him?
Cell cuts his loses and absorbs #18 instead and story continues as it does until ASSJ Vegeta takes on Cell and with nothing left to bargin with, Cell is up shit creek and Vegeta kills him.
No SS2 Gohan means Goku doesn't die, meaning there's no SS3 Goku (maybe not even SS2 Goku) and they all die in the Boo arc.
Goku would later become a SSj2 on Earth. That would be good enough to kill Dabra and there would be no Majin Vegeta if Goku is still alive. So Buu would likely not hatch out of his egg. Golden Freeza may be weaker then he would if there is no Majin Buu, but he might still be at SSj3 level. So Goku and Vegeta would likely be killed since Goku would likely not become a SSjG.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Cipher » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:56 pm

What if Cell actually tried to beat Gohan in a fist fight after damaging his arm instead of immediately going for the one way he could lose?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:41 pm

Cipher wrote:What if Cell actually tried to beat Gohan in a fist fight after damaging his arm instead of immediately going for the one way he could lose?
If Gohan gets serious, he kicks Cell's head off. If Gohan is still off guard, Cell beats Gohan to death. Cell then slaughters the rest of the Z-Fighters and destroys the world.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:13 pm

What if the events of Broly the first movie and HATCHIYACK special happened during the cell games? Would cell even attempt to fight them?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:27 am

What if Vegeta successfully obtained immortality?
What if the Ginyu Force were unable to bring Freeza scouters?
What if Guldo couldn't stop time?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sayo-chan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:26 am

Lunatic Fringe wrote:What if Vegeta successfully obtained immortality?
Then Freeza would break all his bones and turn him into a pretzel to mount on his wall.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:58 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:What if Vegeta successfully obtained immortality?
What if the Ginyu Force were unable to bring Freeza scouters?
What if Guldo couldn't stop time?

Frieza would torture him for ages. However over time Vegeta would become stronger and stronger. That eventually he would naturally be stronger then frieza or just turn super Saiyan at one point.

Frieza would kill the Ginyu force for their incompetence and then destroy namek.

If guldo couldn't stop time he never be a Ginyu force member

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:01 pm

What if DR. LYCHEE, Dr. Muyoo (baby's creator), and Dr.Gero all worked together create cell? How strong would Cell have been?

Also if Gero machine had survived up to battle of gods arc and got data about Buu and Beerus. How strong would have cell have been then?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:26 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:What if DR. LYCHEE, Dr. Muyoo (baby's creator), and Dr.Gero all worked together create cell? How strong would Cell have been?

Also if Gero machine had survived up to battle of gods arc and got data about Buu and Beerus. How strong would have cell have been then?
- Actually Dr Myuu was created by Baby. Not the other way around. Anyways, I'd say that Cell would be as Super #17. If not slightly stronger. Either way, he stomps SSJ4 Goku
- I personally don't think Dr Gero's Super Computer could artificiality replicate an otherworldly power such as Majin Boo or Beerus. But you never know...

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:49 am

What if Bulma found Goku's dragon ball without ever meeting him?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:57 am

Doctor. wrote:What if Bulma found Goku's dragon ball without ever meeting him?
She'd later get eaten by a talking pterodactyl.

What if someone summoned both Shenron and Porunga at the same time? What would the dragons say to each other?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:02 pm

What if Babidi, without Dabura, flew over Earth just as Vegeta's Final Flash went off and he used his Majin powers on both Cell and Vegeta at the Cell Games? Would he gain enough energy from Cell taking on both Gohan (no SSJ2) & Goku and Vegeta fighting Trunks & Piccolo to awaken Majin Buu?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Sayo-chan » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:11 pm

Doesn't Bobidi's spell draw out the utmost potential in the possessed? If so, Cell would probably one-shot everyone, including Boo if he were to be released.

What would happen if... Broly declared his love for Kakarot, with the only way to stop him from destroying the Earth being if he agreed to be his wife?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:21 pm

Sayo-chan wrote:What would happen if... Broly declared his love for Kakarot, with the only way to stop him from destroying the Earth being if he agreed to be his wife?
Vegeta would get a rage boost even bigger than the one against Beerus and kills Broly. When Goku approaches him and says "Nice going, Vegeta! You really saved me back there", Vegeta replies with a "I-I didn't do it for you, we would all be doomed if I didn't kill him, b-baka!" while blushing.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:52 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:What if Vegeta successfully obtained immortality?
What if the Ginyu Force were unable to bring Freeza scouters?
What if Guldo couldn't stop time?
1. Vegeta would still lose to Freeza and still get his ass kick from #17 & #18 in Future Trunks and Cell's timelines. In the Buu saga, he won't have died when he blew up himself. Him and Goku would have fuse into Gogeta and kill Buu & Babidi.

2. Nothing would change really

3. He would never be a member of the Ginyu Force
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