The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[fadeddreams5]

Fat Janemba & Kid Buu tag team vs. SSJ3 Gotenks

Buunemba (Buuhan w/ Super Janemba absorbed) vs. Frieza fourth form (F)

Buugito (Buuhan w/ Super Vegito successfully absorbed) vs SSJG Goku

[ZombieVito]

Yamcha(21st Budokai) vs Goku(pilaf saga)

Chaozu(22nd Budokai) vs Goku(Baba tournament)

Chi Chi(23rd Budokai) vs King Piccolo(old)

Kuririn(arrival of Raditz) vs King Piccolo (young)

Goku(arrival of Raditz) + Kuririn(arrival of Raditz) + Roshi(arrival of Raditz) vs Raditz

Kuririn(vs ginyu-goku) vs Vegeta(vs cui)

Yamcha stomps.
Chaoz wins with difficulty.
Kuririn gets stomped hard.
Raditz wins.
Kuririn has the power advantage. He wins after a long and hard fight.

I thought Roshi was stronger than Raditz, according to Toriyama

Read the interview again.

[ekrolo2]

Fat Janemba & Kid Buu tag team vs. SSJ3 Gotenks

Buunemba (Buuhan w/ Super Janemba absorbed) vs. Freeza fourth form (F)

Buugito (Buuhan w/ Super Vegito successfully absorbed) vs SSJG Goku

Unless Gotenks fucks around, he stomps them both.

Freeza one shots.

If Buu can make Vegito transform while absorbed in his body, he might stand a chance, otherwise Goku wins.

[Doctor.]

Fat Janemba & Kid Buu tag team vs. SSJ3 Gotenks

Buunemba (Buuhan w/ Super Janemba absorbed) vs. Freeza fourth form (F)

Buugito (Buuhan w/ Super Vegito successfully absorbed) vs SSJG Goku

I'd like to say Gotenks would kill them both before they can even process a thought, but he fucks around too much and probably would waste SS3 and the fusion's time limit before he killed both of them. At which point, he dies.

Goku is still at a level he could never reach with training and Freeza, though clearly weaker, was still keeping up with him. I think they're far above Vegetto at this point. So Freeza and SSG Goku win their matches with relative ease, even if Boo's (and Janemba's) abilities are super powerful.

[Captain Space]

Fat Janemba & Kid Buu tag team vs. SSJ3 Gotenks

Buunemba (Buuhan w/ Super Janemba absorbed) vs. Freeza fourth form (F)

Buugito (Buuhan w/ Super Vegito successfully absorbed) vs SSJG Goku

Gotenks was within seconds of finishing off Super Buu, and he didn't even have his full SSJ3 time limit (spent time fused before transforming, and spent time trying to bust out of RoSaT). He should be able to keep it together long enough to take these two down easy.

RF base Goku >= end-of-BoG base Goku, who was able to land some good hits on 70% Beerus, and much-less-than-70% Beerus is the one said to be leagues beyond Vegetto, and Freeza wasn't too far below RF base Goku, sooo Freeza. (Barring absorption.)

Buuhan was so far below Vegetto that I don't think this is all that different from Vegetto vs. SSJG Goku, i.e. Goku wins easy. (Unless, again, Buu manages to absorb him.)

I thought Roshi was stronger than Raditz, according to Toriyama

Read the interview again.

What interview is this?

[Noah]

New matches:

- Piccolo (EoZ) x Dabura
- Piccolo (fused with Piccolo Daimao that was brought back with the Namekian DB) x Fat Boo

- Base Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Coola (if overwhelmed can transform into his 5th Form)
- Super Saiyan Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Full Power Perfect Cell (if overwhelmed can transform into his "Super Perfect" form)
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Super Boo
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo Arc/Can use Dragon Fist) x Kid Boo
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc)

- Vegeta (EoZ without God BS) x Gohan (EoZ)
- Vegeta (Super) x Gohan (Super)
- Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Boo Arc/Super/EoZ) x Mr. Boo

- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Super Boo-tenks
- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Beerus

[ekrolo2]

- Piccolo (EoZ) x Dabura - Dabura murders
- Piccolo (fused with Piccolo Daimao that was brought back with the Namekian DB) x Fat Boo - If this is based on Supersonic Warriors logic, then Piccolo should be able to take out any Fat Buu

- Base Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Coola (if overwhelmed can transform into his 5th Form) If Goku can't even use Kaio-Ken, Coola wins
- Super Saiyan Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Full Power Perfect Cell (if overwhelmed can transform into his "Super Perfect" form) - He beats regular PC but SPC destroys him
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Super Boo - Goku puts up a good fight but ultimately falls
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo Arc/Can use Dragon Fist) x Kid Boo - Could go either way
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) - Without God Ki, I don't ever see Goku surpassing Gotenks, let alone Gohan

- Vegeta (EoZ without God BS) x Gohan (EoZ) - Gohan one shots
- Vegeta (Super) x Gohan (Super) - Gohan one shots again, even if we take Rageta into accountd
- Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Boo Arc/Super/EoZ) x Mr. Boo - Mr. Boo trounces him in Boo and Super, but I think Vegeta could stalemate him by EoZ

- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Super Boo-tenks Bootenks gets smashed
- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Beerus Beerus kills him regardless

[Captain Space]

New matches:

- Piccolo (EoZ) x Dabura
- Piccolo (fused with Piccolo Daimao that was brought back with the Namekian DB) x Fat Boo

- Base Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Coola (if overwhelmed can transform into his 5th Form)
- Super Saiyan Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Full Power Perfect Cell (if overwhelmed can transform into his "Super Perfect" form)
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Super Boo
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo Arc/Can use Dragon Fist) x Kid Boo
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc)

- Vegeta (EoZ without God BS) x Gohan (EoZ)
- Vegeta (Super) x Gohan (Super)
- Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Boo Arc/Super/EoZ) x Mr. Boo

- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Super Boo-tenks
- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Beerus

-Honestly probably Dabura.
-If the fusion boost is entirely based on Daimao's relatively small power level, then Buu, but if it somehow by the "merging two halves of a whole" Kami-style logic gives a huge boost...I still see him as about SSJ2 level, so still Buu, just not quickly.

-Goku either way. Worst case scenario he's a little weaker, but he's so much more skilled a fighter and with a diverse range of stronger-enemy-killing techniques at his disposal.
-Goku again, pretty handily (at first I thought this was base Goku, in which case Cell trounces, but it's not)
-I don't see Goku as being more than 2-5 times weaker than Super Buu in the Buu arc, so I'd say he could probably win by now.
-Dragon Fist wouldn't finish Buu, just use a lot of Goku's energy and leave Buu scattered like a regular/big-ish Kamehameha would. It's more a 'penetrate tough defences' type attack. So this comes down to if Goku really could beat Kid Buu at full power. Which I guess he could. So yeah, even discounting Dragon Fist (which would be less than useless against an enemy like Buu), Goku probably wins.
-See my reasoning two points up, probably Goku by this point.

-Even discounting modern power-ups/downs, the movies are all we really have to go on bar GT for how Gohan's power might progress. So probably Vegeta.
-Gohan. I'm sure the writers would find some way around this, but if this is asking who would actually, logically win in a fight, Gohan, no question.
-Depends how much, if any, power you think Mr. Buu lost compared to Fat Buu. EoZ Vegeta wins either way though.

-Obviously this one's up to personal interpretation, but I wouldn't think Gohan has any more sudden rage-power to bring out without any more training or anything, after Old Kai's power-up kind of brought out all that potential and then some. So this would maybe be...a little bit stronger? Buutenks should win.
-Same reason as above, Beerus wins easily.

[ekrolo2]

God Freeza (Golden Freeza + God Ki + no stamina drain) VS Super Saiyan God Vegito

[Lord Beerus]

God Freeza (Golden Freeza + God Ki + no stamina drain) VS Super Saiyan God Vegito

Vegetto one shots Freeza.

[ekrolo2]

God Freeza (Golden Freeza + God Ki + no stamina drain) VS Super Saiyan God Vegito

Vegetto one shots Freeza.

Really? I figured with his insane base strength, no stamina drain and likely high power increase he'd be able to at least give Vegetto a decent fight.

[Lord Beerus]

God Freeza (Golden Freeza + God Ki + no stamina drain) VS Super Saiyan God Vegito

Vegetto one shots Freeza.

Really? I figured with his insane base strength, no stamina drain and likely high power increase he'd be able to at least give Vegetto a decent fight.

Golden Freeza was barely able to gain the advantage over SSJGSSJ Goku, and he's taking on someone who's gonna be at least hundreds of times stronger than that. Plus, in my opinion, God Ki is a non factor.

[dbzfan7]

New matches:

- Piccolo (EoZ) x Dabura
- Piccolo (fused with Piccolo Daimao that was brought back with the Namekian DB) x Fat Boo

- Base Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Coola (if overwhelmed can transform into his 5th Form)
- Super Saiyan Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Full Power Perfect Cell (if overwhelmed can transform into his "Super Perfect" form)
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Super Boo
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo Arc/Can use Dragon Fist) x Kid Boo
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc)

- Vegeta (EoZ without God BS) x Gohan (EoZ)
- Vegeta (Super) x Gohan (Super)
- Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Boo Arc/Super/EoZ) x Mr. Boo

- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Super Boo-tenks
- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Beerus

-I think Dabura is still stronger. Piccolo isn't noted to be anything special since the end of the Cell era.
-I like to pretend that Supersonic Warriors what if is how it would work, and so Piccolo is just under SSJ3 Gotenks. He wins easily.
-Cooler I think is too strong at full power. Goku would need Kaio-Ken to put him down.
-Goku I think at this point can win
-Super Boo is still too strong. Goku doesn't have the raw potential power of Gotenks or Gohan
-Goku can pull off the win if he's careful
-Normal Logic: Gohan is way too strong having the potential that surpassed Goku, being far far surpassed when the ritual unlocked Gohan's power
Neo age logic: Gohan is oneshotted by his own incompetence.
-Normal Logic: Gohan stomps
Neo Logic: Vegeta punches Gohan in the gut once, and since Gohan didn't breathe first, he passes out from lack of air.
-EOZ Vegeta is the only one I can see fighting Mr. Boo and maybe winning
-Gohan loses in both cases as he can't get rage boosts on top of his unlocked potential. No amount of neo fail matters.

[LonelyShadow]

Fat Janemba & Kid Buu tag team vs. SSJ3 Gotenks

Buunemba (Buuhan w/ Super Janemba absorbed) vs. Freeza fourth form (F)

Buugito (Buuhan w/ Super Vegito successfully absorbed) vs SSJG Goku

- Gotenks.
- Freeza. He should be far stronger than any of those characters even in his final form.
- If Buu is able to get access to Vegetto's SSJ3 powers he has a good chance, if not, Goku stomps.

New matches:

- Piccolo (EoZ) x Dabura

Piccolo seemed to be a little bit away from Dabura's level during the Buu saga, I don't think that Piccolo trained seriously during those 10 years, Dabura takes this.

- Piccolo (fused with Piccolo Daimao that was brought back with the Namekian DB) x Fat Boo

I don't really know how the namekian fusion works, but I think that it isn't that powerful, is Buu time.

- Base Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Coola (if overwhelmed can transform into his 5th Form)

Flip a coin and somebody will take it away from you. Unless Cooler transforms, it's a 50/50.

- Super Saiyan Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Full Power Perfect Cell (if overwhelmed can transform into his "Super Perfect" form)

Goku, SPC is too much for him as a normal Super Saiyan.

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Super Boo

Super Buu should win, even if he Goku managed to improve so much to be on a par with Super Buu, he'll run out of stamina very quickly.

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo Arc/Can use Dragon Fist) x Kid Boo

I don't see why that technique wouldn't prevent Kid Buu from regenerating and end up with the same overcome as the manga.

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc)

Gohan attacks, Gohan wins.

- Vegeta (EoZ without God BS) x Gohan (EoZ)

Gohan, again.

- Vegeta (Super) x Gohan (Super)

Sadly, Gohan's current features from Super are way too limited, as far as the story goes, he almost got killed by the breeze of Majin Buu's body... Sorbet's laser wins.

- Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Boo Arc/Super/EoZ) x Mr. Boo

Mr. Buu, due to the regeneration.

- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Super Boo-tenks

Buutenks.

- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Beerus

Gohan goes from enraged to a very deep depressed state.

[ZombieVito]

Now that we know Enraged Vegeta challenged a 10% Beerus:

SSJ2 Vegetto [buu] vs Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta [super].

[Birusu16]

Now that we know Enraged Vegeta challenged a 10% Beerus:

SSJ2 Vegetto [buu] vs Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta [super].

Enraged Vegeta never really challenged a 10% Beerus. Beerus tanked all of his hits with ease and then one-shotted him, so Enraged Vegeta would be much lower than the 10% Beerus used on him.

As for the battle, it's hard to tell because there's so many variables. If you take Goku's statement about fusion not being enough as an indication that it wouldn't be enough for the level of power Beerus used to defeat him at the time then Vegeta would win. If you think Goku was taking SSJ3 into consideration as well then Vegeta stomps.

[RandomGuy96]

Fat Janemba & Kid Buu tag team vs. SSJ3 Gotenks

Buunemba (Buuhan w/ Super Janemba absorbed) vs. Freeza fourth form (F)

Buugito (Buuhan w/ Super Vegito successfully absorbed) vs SSJG Goku

SS3 Gotenks will put them down in seconds if he unleashes even a portion of the attacks that he unleashed on Super Buu. Even ignoring all the implications about Gotenks' insane power from before he fought Buu, like base Gotenks > SS2 Vegeta or SS Gotenks > SS3 Goku. SS3 Goku considered himself absolutely no match for Super Buu's strength despite being as strong as Pure Buu and much stronger than Fat Janemba, and Super Buu was noticeably inferior to Gotenks. Also, Gotenks supposed incompetence is wildly exaggerated; he did very little screwing around when he actually had a time limit.

Buuhan or Buutenks take this just fine with no additional absorptions. I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's absolutely nothing supporting Freeza's non-golden forms being Vegetto-tier or whatever. Literally all we have for any of them is an implication that his 1st form isn't many times stronger than SS Gohan.

He would be quite outclassed power-wise, but NuGoku is even more incompetent than old Goku. Since Super Buu was luckily erased from existence in all dimensions, he doesn't suffer from the stupidity in the new material. He would take this by absorbing Goku, turning him into candy, blowing up the planet, or hiding and attacking him while he's off guard.

New matches:

- Piccolo (EoZ) x Dabura
- Piccolo (fused with Piccolo Daimao that was brought back with the Namekian DB) x Fat Boo

- Base Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Coola (if overwhelmed can transform into his 5th Form)
- Super Saiyan Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Full Power Perfect Cell (if overwhelmed can transform into his "Super Perfect" form)
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Super Boo
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo Arc/Can use Dragon Fist) x Kid Boo
- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (EoZ without God BS) x Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc)

- Vegeta (EoZ without God BS) x Gohan (EoZ)
- Vegeta (Super) x Gohan (Super)
- Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Boo Arc/Super/EoZ) x Mr. Boo

- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Super Boo-tenks
- Enraged Full Power Ultimate Gohan (Boo Arc) x Beerus

-Dabra stomps. Partly because I believe that he was fighting SS2 Gohan. Partly because we're given no reason to believe he improved so drastically, from his rating of "pisses himself at the thought of fighting Kaioshin, who pisses himself at the thought of fighting Dabra". The only thing that does show post-Buu Piccolo in action, ROF, still has him being way weaker than someone who SS Gohan one-shots.
-Buu wouldn't need to do anything, as this fusion would have no effect. Daimao and Junior share the same soul, so no fusion for him.

-Cooler stomps. Cooler > Freeza > base Goku.
-Goku. I think even Buu arc SS Goku could defeat this Cell, who shouldn't be too far above SS Gohan going by their speed feats (Cell was explicitly using his full speed against Gohan).
-Super Buu. This Goku still considered Pure Buu to be a worthy opponent and, potentially, a very good fight. But even ignoring that, the precedent set in his 7 years of training between Cell and Buu, and his comments about the ROSAT before the Cell Games, pretty much establish that Goku doesn't get significantly stronger from training anymore.
-Pure Buu. Going by GT, the Dragon Fist can't flat-out engulf and erase someone with healing powers way weaker than Buu's, despite destroying whatever part of him it hit. So, he'd just blow Buu apart again, like he did twice with Kamehamehas anyway, and the battle would proceed more or less as it did.
-Gohan. See the above Super Buu vs Goku match-up.

-Gohan. See the above Gohan vs Goku match-up.
-Serious answer: Vegeta, if he's enraged. Gohan, if he is not. The way episodes 7 and 8 frame Rageta clearly imply he's the strongest non-Beerus, non-Whis fighter seen up to that point. But normally, Gohan would demolish him. Even ignoring all the precedents set by the manga, the combination of Vegeta's statement implying someone stronger than Goku exists that he knows of, and the way episode 7 builds up Gohan after everyone else gets defeated, imply he's still supposed to be stronger than Goku and Vegeta.
-Mr. Buu, unless this is Super!Rageta. Mr. Buu was shown to be around Pure Buu's level, and Vegeta most certainly did not quadruple his strength in the ten years between Buu and Uub.

-Buutenks. His rage boosts were stated to be the result of his dormant power, and Elder Kaioshin's power-up already drew out all his dormant power for use in his "Ultimate" state.
-See above.

[ZombieVito]

Now that we know Enraged Vegeta challenged a 10% Beerus:

SSJ2 Vegetto [buu] vs Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta [super].

Enraged Vegeta never really challenged a 10% Beerus. Beerus tanked all of his hits with ease and then one-shotted him, so Enraged Vegeta would be much lower than the 10% Beerus used on him.

As for the battle, it's hard to tell because there's so many variables. If you take Goku's statement about fusion not being enough as an indication that it wouldn't be enough for the level of power Beerus used to defeat him at the time then Vegeta would win. If you think Goku was taking SSJ3 into consideration as well then Vegeta stomps.

I wouldn't put Vegeta much lower. Beerus first attack did nothing to him.

[ShadowDude112]

SSJ4 Gogeta vs Beerus. I know, we can't really like, measure either of their powers, but SSJ4 Gogeta is a force to be reckoned with and I'd love to see how he'd take on a God of Destruction.

Can we put other franchise characters here? I have a good one.

Master Yoda only using the force and physical attacks, as a lightsaber would chop Roshi in half (Revenge of the Sith) vs Muten Roshi (Pilaf arc)

SSJ3 Vegetto vs SSJ3 Gogeta

Captain Ginyu switched with Final Form Freeza (Namek arc, not RF) vs Gohan, Kuririn, Piccolo, and Vegeta

[Birusu16]

Now that we know Enraged Vegeta challenged a 10% Beerus:

SSJ2 Vegetto [buu] vs Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta [super].

Enraged Vegeta never really challenged a 10% Beerus. Beerus tanked all of his hits with ease and then one-shotted him, so Enraged Vegeta would be much lower than the 10% Beerus used on him.

As for the battle, it's hard to tell because there's so many variables. If you take Goku's statement about fusion not being enough as an indication that it wouldn't be enough for the level of power Beerus used to defeat him at the time then Vegeta would win. If you think Goku was taking SSJ3 into consideration as well then Vegeta stomps.

I wouldn't put Vegeta much lower. Beerus first attack did nothing to him.

Which just implies he wasn't using 10% at that very moment considering when he did he ended up one-shotting Vegeta.