The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Methuselah]

SSJ4 Gogeta vs Beerus. I know, we can't really like, measure either of their powers, but SSJ4 Gogeta is a force to be reckoned with and I'd love to see how he'd take on a God of Destruction.

The most blatant info regarding how SSJ4 compares to SSJG is in Xenoverse, where Whis remarks that SSJ4 Goku would make a fine God of Destruction and Beerus saying Vegeta in SSJ4 might beat him now. Say what you will about the latter statement, but it's clear to me that SSJ4 is supposed to be comparable to SSJG in Xenoverse.

SSJ3 Vegetto vs SSJ3 Gogeta

Vegetto, since it's implied that there's a pretty large gap between Potara and Dance fusions. Buuhan didn't think Goku and Vegeta doing the Fusion Dance would amount to much, and he knows how powerful it is since he absorbed Gotenks. Plus Old Kaioshin outright stating the Potara has a greater effect.

Captain Ginyu switched with Final Form Freeza (Namek arc, not RF) vs Gohan, Kuririn, Piccolo, and Vegeta

If Ginyu is as unsuccessful with using Freeza's body as he was with Goku's, he likely loses.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

SSJ3 Vegetto vs SSJ3 Gogeta

Gohan-Boo said a fusion of Goku and Vegeta is no match for him (while expecting metamoran due to not knowing the potara were stronger than the fusion dance), and got tooled by Super Vegetto who wasn't even going all out.

SS Vegetto > Gohan-Boo > SS3 Gogeta

[h0kuten]

Vegeta Ssj2 (DB Super) vs Ultimate Gohan (Boo)

Goku Ssj3 (DB Super) vs Boohan

Gotenks Base Post (DB Super) vs Good Boo (DB Super)

[Sora Saiyan]

Vegeta Ssj2 (DB Super) vs Ultimate Gohan (Boo)

Goku Ssj3 (DB Super) vs Boohan

Gotenks Base Post (DB Super) vs Good Boo (DB Super)

With no rage boost? If that's the case Ultimate Gohan stomps him.

Boohan destroys SSJ3 Goku. The gap is way too vast for Goku to overcome so soon.

Good Boo wins easily.

[LonelyShadow]

Ultimate Gohan vs Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly ( )
Ultra/Buff Buu vs Super Janemba
SSJ Gogeta vs Buccolo

[Khin]

1: Super Vegetto vs. SSJ4 Goku(GT)
2: Vegeta(Saiyan Saga) vs. Kewi
3: Nail,Vegeta(vs.Recoome),Gohan(vs.Recoome),Kuririn(vs.Recoome) vs. Guldo and Recoome
4: SSJ Gohan(Pre Z-Sword) vs. SSJ Gohan(FNF)
5: Kaioshin vs. Paikuhan(Otherworld Tournament)
6: Beerus and Golden Freeza vs. SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku
7: Android 16 vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Base Goku(FNF) and Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. SSG Goku(BOG)
9: Majin Vegeta,SSJ2 Goku,SSJ2 Gohan,Dabura,Kaioshin,Piccolo,Kuririn,Trunks and Goten vs. Bobbidi and Fat Buu(Pre Split)
10:Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta(Permanent) vs. SSJ3 Vegetto

[Captain Space]

Ultimate Gohan vs Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly ( )
Ultra/Buff Buu vs Super Janemba
SSJ Gogeta vs Buccolo

Theoretically this Broly should be at least equal with Gohan if not stronger I guess? Anyway, he seems to generate more energy as time goes on so I don't see him getting tired from using SSJ3. So I guess Broly?

I don't think Janemba really has any way of putting Buu down for good regardless of how they stack up exactly. Buu eventually wins.

Probably Gogeta? Given that he's gotta be much stronger than SSJ1 Gotenks, and Buuccolo is basically just a smarter Super Buu.

1: Super Vegetto vs. SSJ4 Goku(GT)
2: Vegeta(Saiyan Saga) vs. Kewi
3: Nail,Vegeta(vs.Recoome),Gohan(vs.Recoome),Kuririn(vs.Recoome) vs. Guldo and Recoome
4: SSJ Gohan(Pre Z-Sword) vs. SSJ Gohan(FNF)
5: Kaioshin vs. Paikuhan(Otherworld Tournament)
6: Beerus and Golden Freeza vs. SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku
7: Android 16 vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Base Goku(FNF) and Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. SSG Goku(BOG)
9: Majin Vegeta,SSJ2 Goku,SSJ2 Gohan,Dabura,Kaioshin,Piccolo,Kuririn,Trunks and Goten vs. Bobbidi and Fat Buu(Pre Split)
10: Tori-Bot vs. Whis,Beerus,SSGSS Goku,SSGSS Vegeta,SSJ4 Gogeta,Omega Shenron and SSJ3 Vegetto

1. I say Vegetto for the whole GT Perfect Files thing.

2. Vegeta is probably more skilled and has Oozaru. Despite equal power, Vegeta wins.

3. Guldo is sort of a non-factor in that when he's stopping time Recoome can't do anything either and if he catches somebody in his psychic trap somebody else can instantly take him out. I reckon if they do that quick enough, the four of them can wear Recoome down (Vegeta's about 30K, Nail's 42K, I reckon Recoome's about 45-50K).

4. Buu Saga version. At least he was certain he could use SSJ XD

5. Paikuhan, I don't see Kaioshin being able to stand up to Cell.

6. Beerus can definitely beat one SSGSS, while Freeza will eventually lose after a much longer fight. Then it's down to a mostly-fine Beerus against a worn-out SSGSS; Beerus wins.

7. Um...didn't this fight happen in canon? Final-appearance Imperfect Cell basically stalemates 16, any previous version gets his ass handed to him by 16.

8. The team; Goku's base post-SSJG wasn't too far below SSJG, and he's probably a bit above that by RF (so nearly at SSJG level or possibly actually at it), and Vegeta seems about equal with him.

9. Hmm, tricky. Goku did say it wouldn't matter how many SSJ2's went at fat Buu, they wouldn't win, but...that is a lot of people. Uh...60-70% Buu wins.

10. Tori-Bot forgets they all exist and they vanish. Except Omega Shenron, who he didn't create in the first place. Omega Shenron wins.

[LonelyShadow]

1: Super Vegetto vs. SSJ4 Goku(GT)
2: Vegeta(Saiyan Saga) vs. Kewi
3: Nail,Vegeta(vs.Recoome),Gohan(vs.Recoome),Kuririn(vs.Recoome) vs. Guldo and Recoome
4: SSJ Gohan(Pre Z-Sword) vs. SSJ Gohan(FNF)
5: Kaioshin vs. Paikuhan(Otherworld Tournament)
6: Beerus and Golden Freeza vs. SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku
7: Android 16 vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Base Goku(FNF) and Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. SSG Goku(BOG)
9: Majin Vegeta,SSJ2 Goku,SSJ2 Gohan,Dabura,Kaioshin,Piccolo,Kuririn,Trunks and Goten vs. Bobbidi and Fat Buu(Pre Split)
10: Tori-Bot vs. Whis,Beerus,SSGSS Goku,SSGSS Vegeta,SSJ4 Gogeta,Omega Shenron and SSJ3 Vegetto

1. I'll go with Super Vegetto, even if he's slightly weaker or stronger, he has the skills of 2 saiyans combined, that should given him some advantage.
2. Vegeta.
3. If Guldo manages to freeze everyone enough time, he and Recoome should win.
4. I'll go with Gohan, because he is Gohan. Gohan stomps. Ditto.
5. Paikuhan.
6. Beerus and Freeza stomp.
7. Cell has many abilities, but 16 has a infinite energy, flip a coin.
8. As far as I know, the Saiyan beyond God "status" is slightly weaker than a SSG or something like that, the team wins.
9. Everyone uses all of their energies and Buu keeps coming back like nothing happened. I don't know why Babidi is in the fight, is he hanging out somewhere?
10. Tori-Bot erases, literally, everyone except SSJ4 Gogeta and Omega, since they're not a part of his creations, after that he says: "I forgot" and leaves.

[dbzfan7]

Ultimate Gohan vs Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly ( )
Ultra/Buff Buu vs Super Janemba
SSJ Gogeta vs Buccolo

-Gohan stomps. Broly would be above Goku, but not by that much considering his last appearance.
-Super Boo is enough to win, so South Boo has an easier time
-Boocollo as I don't see SSJ Gogeta as 8 times stronger than SSJ Gotenks

1: Super Vegetto vs. SSJ4 Goku(GT)
2: Vegeta(Saiyan Saga) vs. Kewi
3: Nail,Vegeta(vs.Recoome),Gohan(vs.Recoome),Kuririn(vs.Recoome) vs. Guldo and Recoome
4: SSJ Gohan(Pre Z-Sword) vs. SSJ Gohan(FNF)
5: Kaioshin vs. Paikuhan(Otherworld Tournament)
6: Beerus and Golden Freeza vs. SSGSS Vegeta and SSGSS Goku
7: Android 16 vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Base Goku(FNF) and Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. SSG Goku(BOG)
9: Majin Vegeta,SSJ2 Goku,SSJ2 Gohan,Dabura,Kaioshin,Piccolo,Kuririn,Trunks and Goten vs. Bobbidi and Fat Buu(Pre Split)
10:Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta(Permanent) vs. SSJ3 Vegetto

-Going by perfect files, I say Vegetto if we count initial SSJ4. SSJ4 Goku if we go to the later appearances.
-Vegeta is probably more skilled and can take more of a beating. Cui is a coward.
-Nail alone is on par with Recoome. The team take this.
-Pre Z Sword Gohan at least didn't have to wonder if Super Saiyan would be an issue. He takes it handily. Though considering how F scales, he may just stomp. Neo era rules imply they double KO by banging into each others heads.
-Paikuhan I think is just under Full Power Perfect Cell. I see Kaioshin around Cell games Goku level.
-Horrible stomp for Beerus and Freeza. Beerus alone is on par and fit to have a tough battle against the saiyan duo as said by Whis. With Freeza on Beerus' team, Beerus won't be pressured on a 2-1 and can take them both out.
-Cell I think was stronger, but not too far ahead. He tanked 16's best attack and didn't seem too bad.
-Going by a similar comparison of the SSGSS's vs Beerus, I think the team takes it. Also SSG has 5 minutes or so and they could outlast that power.
-Lest the boys fuse, they are doomed. No amount of SSJ2 foes can beat Boo. Outside of the SSJ2 tier, everyone else on the team is irrelevant.
-Regular Logic: Vegetto farts and Vegeta dies
Neo logic: Vegeta Waifu is best waifu. He soooo cooooool. Ok not as cool as Goku...but he so dreamy kawaii desu. Vegetto is a stupid head.

[LonelyShadow]

Beerus 10% vs Super Vegetto.

Apparently, Beerus used 10% of his power in order to tank some of Rage Vegeta's hits, do you think that being at 10% is enough to defeat Super Vegetto?

I think that if he uses Majin Buu as a baseball bat again he one shots. If he doesn't, they might be equals, in my opinion.

[Captain Space]

Beerus 10% vs Super Vegetto.

Apparently, Beerus used 10% of his power in order to tank some of Rage Vegeta's hits, do you think that being at 10% is enough to defeat Super Vegetto?

I think that if he uses Majin Buu as a baseball bat again he one shots. If he doesn't, they might be equals, in my opinion.

I think he probably could beat Vegetto given that:

-He said his fight with Vegeta was "more fun" than his fight with Goku, so presumably he used less than 10% fighting Goku.

-Even with that less-than-10% Beerus, Goku said that Vegetto wouldn't be enough.

EDIT: ...the implication of which is that Rageta really is supposed to be above Vegetto?! I'm honestly fine with Vegeta surpassing Goku in that moment (not many people are...), but surpassing Vegetto there is just silly. They probably just didn't think about it and it was like, "Look this is how fearsome Beerus is, even Vegetto wouldn't win!" and then "Vegeta does a cool thing!"

[LonelyShadow]

I think he probably could beat Vegetto given that:

-He said his fight with Vegeta was "more fun" than his fight with Goku, so presumably he used less than 10% fighting Goku.

-Even with that less-than-10% Beerus, Goku said that Vegetto wouldn't be enough.

I always thought that he made some sort of measure of Beerus full power, thinking: "If he defeated me this easily, even fusing with Vegeta won't be enough!"

But if Vegetto actually has access to the Super Saiyan 3 transformation and Goku knows it, wouldn't that mean that he thought: 10% Beerus > SSJ3 Vegetto?

Or at least, that's what I'm getting from your post (sorry if I'm wrong.)

...the implication of which is that Rageta really is supposed to be above Vegetto?! I'm honestly fine with Vegeta surpassing Goku in that moment (not many people are...), but surpassing Vegetto there is just silly. They probably just didn't think about it and it was like, "Look this is how fearsome Beerus is, even Vegetto wouldn't win!" and then "Vegeta does a cool thing!"

Edit: Not at all, but I do believe that if Rageta managed to get hits on Beerus (a thing that even Ultimate Gohan couldn't do), he should be kind of close to Vegetto's tier, since Beerus used 10% and remained unfazed after getting hits from Angry Guy, that would mean that Rageta was 5% Beerus or something like that, so... Rageta > Super Vegetto ∄

[Captain Space]

I always thought that he made some sort of measure of Beerus full power, thinking: "If he defeated me this easily, even fusing with Vegeta won't be enough!"

But if Vegetto actually has access to the Super Saiyan 3 transformation and Goku knows it, wouldn't that mean that he thought: 10% Beerus > SSJ3 Vegetto?

Or at least, that's what I'm getting from your post (sorry if I'm wrong.)

That's entirely possible, but if he can't sense god ki he has no way of knowing how much Beerus is using; defeating him that easily could've just been like a 1.5x advantage, it could've been 10,000x--as it turned out it seems to be somewhere in the region of 10-50x

[dbgtFO]

I think Vegetto gets utterly stomped by Beerus.
Yeah, logically Goku shouldn't be capable of estimating Beerus' power, when he can't sense his ki and Beerus could have been suppressed to as little as twice as powerful as Goku, while merging with the Potara should make Vegetto several upon several times stronger than Goku.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

1: Super Vegetto vs. SSJ4 Goku(GT)
4: SSJ Gohan(Pre Z-Sword) vs. SSJ Gohan(FNF)
7: Android 16 vs. Imperfect Cell

1. Vegetto gets slaughtered. Even Super Vegeta-Baby 1 could beat him. Also, the Perfect Files doesn't say anything regarding Vegetto.
4. RF Gohan is weaker than 1.3 million, Base Boo saga Gohan wins, let alone Super Saiyan.
7. Personally, it looked like Cell had a slight advantage to me. I'd say he'd win after a long battle.

[Captain Space]

1. Vegetto gets slaughtered. Even Super Vegeta-Baby 1 could beat him. Also, the Perfect Files doesn't say anything regarding Vegetto.

Really...?

Was it the SEG or something? Because I keep hearing this thing quoted in full, it's gotta be from something...

EDIT: This, I think? Wherever this is from... (Sorry if this is the wrong image, I don't speak the language. I do see a "4", but...*shrug*)

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

It's from an anime comic, not the GT Perfect Files.

[dbzfan7]

Beerus 10% vs Super Vegetto.

Apparently, Beerus used 10% of his power in order to tank some of Rage Vegeta's hits, do you think that being at 10% is enough to defeat Super Vegetto?

I think that if he uses Majin Buu as a baseball bat again he one shots. If he doesn't, they might be equals, in my opinion.

Neither wins. The universe implodes from sheer stupidity.

[Noah]

New matches:

Chaozu (Freeza Arc End) x 3 Saibamen
Chaozu (Android Arc) x Guldo

Yamcha (Freeza Arc End) x Nappa
Yamcha (Android Arc) x Vegeta (Saiyan Arc)

Tenshinhan (Freeza Arc End) x Dodoria or Zarbon (can transform)
Tenshinhan (Android Arc) x Captain Ginyu (no body swap)

Krillin (Freeza Arc End) x Recoome
Krillin (Android Arc) x Captain Ginyu (no body swap)

[LonelyShadow]

Neither wins. The universe implodes from sheer stupidity.

I disagree. Kanye West's ego keeps everything balanced, so yeah, fried tomatoes does not cure blindness.