What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy?

[DoomieDoomie911]

This has probably been mentioned and/or discussed in this long thread, but people saying "Dragon Ball Z" when referring to the series as a whole really irks me. Also, "Sayin".

[nickzambuto]

This has probably been mentioned and/or discussed in this long thread, but people saying "Dragon Ball Z" when referring to the series as a whole really irks me. Also, "Sayin".

That too is a peeve of mine and helps me separate the really knowledgeable fans from the casual ones.

[ABED]

To be fair, and I don't think I'm alone in this regard, I went nearly 15 years before ever hearing Saiyan properly pronounced. I was a fan of the show since about 93, but I wasnt that familiar with Japanese culture or language. Hell, I didn't even know I was pronouncing Goku wrong. I wouldn't consider myself an unknowledgable fan either.

[nickzambuto]

When we have entire threads of people just talking about how bad they think the dub actors are

May I point you to the exact opposite where we have entire threads of people talking about exactly how bad they think Masako Nozawa is, and how Joji Yanami should just hurry up and die so he can be recast?

Cherry-picking / selectively choosing based on what you want to be reality may be going on here, whether you are intentionally doing so or not. Please be aware, please understand. Disgusting things are said on all "sides". They shouldn't be, and we'll do everything in our power to take care of it when reported to us... but also recognize people have different opinions and they're entitled to express them, regardless of whether you like it or not.

Of course, that's the whole "brings out your irate fanboy" question at hand... (Can you see mine shining through?)

Well that's what I'm saying. Now I've never seen a thread on Kanzenshuu of all places criticizing the Japanese voice cast, but like I said before, the YouTube community and places like that are filled with people hating and dismissing the Japanese audio, and the users on Kanzenshuu hate that. In fact if you look back in this very thread I'm sure they many of the examples people have listed are when people on YouTube bash Masako Nozawa, "they just listen to a few clips and judge their whole opinion on that."

Well it's hypocritical when those same people on Kanzenshuu give the dub so much unnecessary hate, in the same vain as people hating on GT just for the sake of hating. They won't even acknowledge how much the cast has grown, how they DID start off as people grabbed from the street, but due to their experience in Dragon Ball they've become professional voice actors.

[Ree]

I still say it as "Saiyan"
how did you pronounce Goku wrong unless you said "Goh-kuh"?

[VegettoEX]

Are you legitimately seeing someone here who refuses to give any dub a chance and is standing there with their hands over their ears yapping about how awful it is without actually giving it that fair shot, though?

Is that really happening? For real? Actually in real life happening here?

Because I don't think it is. I don't think it's happening for a dub, and I don't think it's really happening for the Japanese version either. I would hope/expect/believe that people posting here are reasonable human beings. If they're not... again, please use the "report" functionality to point out people being unfathomable asshats to each other, and the moderation team will do something about it.

I'm allowed to still actively dislike and choose not to watch FUNimation's English dub, totally independent and separate from the fact that I think they do a pretty admirable job with it now and think that it far more accurately reflects the original Japanese version that I enjoy so much. That's not me, or anyone else, hating for the sake of hating.

[ABED]

It's not fair to compare this forum to Youtube. For one, there are moderators, which is a HUGE plus. No moderation makes for some ugly comment sections, and the number of people here that don't at least acknowledge the growth of dub cast is small. Youtube is full of people that are often very misinformed about DB, so their opinions about the acting hold far less weight than the people here.

how did you pronounce Goku wrong unless you said "Goh-kuh"?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the emphasis should be on the second syllable "ku", whereas the dub puts the emphasis on "Go".

[Ree]

That doesn't sound right to me

"Its okay for Masako Nozawa to voice the Son family but when other dub actors like Terry Klassem voice multiple characters they're the devil!"

[Kamiccolo9]

That doesn't sound right to me

"Its okay for Masako Nozawa to voice the Son family but when other dub actors like Terry Klassem voice multiple characters they're the devil!"

No one is saying that?

[Ree]

Actually they are.
they're all over Terry Klassen, Paul Bandey, Chris Sabat for voicing multiple characters but when Masako Nozawa is Tullece, Bardock, Goku, Gohan, Goten in every form they applaud her.

[Kamiccolo9]

Actually they are.
they're all over Terry Klassen, Paul Bandey, Chris Sabat for voicing multiple characters but when Masako Nozawa is Tullece, Bardock, Goku, Gohan, Goten in every form they applaud her.

Who is "they?"

[Ree]

I cant list names because that would be harassment but I'm sure youve seen them here, other DB forums, youtube, everywhere.

[Kamiccolo9]

I cant list names because that would be harassment but I'm sure youve seen them here, other DB forums, youtube, everywhere.

Nope. Must have missed "them." I have never seen someone defend Nozawa for the same thing that they criticize Sabat for. I've seen both arguments separately, of course, but never together like that.

[ABED]

I have in fact seen a number of people criticize Nozawa for voicing numerous characters. A big difference is that she's playing Goku and his sons.

[Ree]

Exactly the point, I would look at a post giving her props for "differentiating" them and then I would look at another post from them and they're complaining about Terry Klassen or Chris Sabat

[VegettoEX]

While it would be nice, people don't have to be 100% consistent in their opinions across everything. It's perfectly fine and understandable for someone to have a problem with one voice actor taking a lot of roles while they feel OK with another voice actor doing the same thing. They may even actually BE CONSISTENT with their underlying reasoning if you dig deeper than "one person = multiple roles". They may think one can do different voices more effectively with a larger range, they may feel they can stick in-character more in certain roles, they may simply not like the raw voice qualities of the actor, etc.

You need to talk more with these people and actually engage them. Making sweeping generalizations is a sure-fire way to make yourself upset over what's likely nothing important at all.

[Dbzfan94]

This has probably been mentioned and/or discussed in this long thread, but people saying "Dragon Ball Z" when referring to the series as a whole really irks me. Also, "Sayin".

That too is a peeve of mine and helps me separate the really knowledgeable fans from the casual ones.

I find this mentality just pompous. I know it's correctly pronounced 'Sigh-yan' but I still say Say-in out of habit and preference. I've been a fan for 15 years, but that makes me and millions of others a casual fan?

[Gaffer Tape]

While it would be nice, people don't have to be 100% consistent in their opinions across everything. It's perfectly fine and understandable for someone to have a problem with one voice actor taking a lot of roles while they feel OK with another voice actor doing the same thing. They may even actually BE CONSISTENT with their underlying reasoning if you dig deeper than "one person = multiple roles". They may think one can do different voices more effectively with a larger range, they may feel they can stick in-character more in certain roles, they may simply not like the raw voice qualities of the actor, etc.

You need to talk more with these people and actually engage them. Making sweeping generalizations is a sure-fire way to make yourself upset over what's likely nothing important at all.

Agreed. Just to use one counter-example I know better (haven't really heard anyone complain about Terry Klassen having too many roles... maybe this happened after his association with the FUNimation production), take Chris Sabat in season 3. He got lots of flack from Japanese and Ocean cast fans alike for being so oversaturated in the show. Just in season three alone, he voiced three main characters (Yamucha, Piccolo, and Vegeta) and tons of other minor characters (Jheese, Reacoom, King Vegeta, God, Popo, Zarbon). I mean, at the time, the credits listed no more than ten actors listed for the entire cast, and it made the production feel really cheap. Comparing that to Nozawa, she voiced three main characters over the course of the entire franchise and two minor characters. That's it. And those three main characters were extremely spaced out. She voiced Goku and nothing but Goku for a few years before taking on Gohan, and she voiced those two for a few years before taking on Goten. With a few exceptions, the main voice cast had their one character, and that was it. Nozawa was the exception. Now, your opinion on that may vary. You may think Sabat does a better job distinguishing between his characters, and that he's a good voice actor, so it's fine he voices or voiced so many characters. I'm just pointing out that those are two largely different scenarios, so I don't think it's at all hypocritical to agree with one and not the other.

[Rukura]

Dragon Ball Chou.

How people still use that after the show started to air both amazes and infuriates me.

EDIT: Related, Dragon Ball Z Super/Chou.

[Kuririn Fan]

This has probably been mentioned and/or discussed in this long thread, but people saying "Dragon Ball Z" when referring to the series as a whole really irks me. Also, "Sayin".

This, this ,this, so much this. I always use Dragon Ball when talking about franchise in general. And i aint gonna lie, but i just recently started properly pronouncing Saiyan.