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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:23 pm

Pocket-God wrote:Buutenks > Buuhan
Wait, what? I get why you think Kid Boo is stronger, even though the story clearly states otherwise, but I cannot understand how you'd think this. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact that Gohan Boo is stronger.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Pocket-God » Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:17 am

Doctor. wrote:
Pocket-God wrote:Buutenks > Buuhan
Wait, what? I get why you think Kid Boo is stronger, even though the story clearly states otherwise, but I cannot understand how you'd think this. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact that Gohan Boo is stronger.
Cause i'm one of the few that thinks it's Gotenks > Gohan therefor Buutenks > Buuhan

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Post by rereboy » Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:28 am

Pocket-God wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Pocket-God wrote:Buutenks > Buuhan
Wait, what? I get why you think Kid Boo is stronger, even though the story clearly states otherwise, but I cannot understand how you'd think this. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact that Gohan Boo is stronger.
Cause i'm one of the few that thinks it's Gotenks > Gohan therefor Buutenks > Buuhan
It's stated in the manga that Gohan is stronger than Gotenks. Even Goten and Trunks agree that he is. So...

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Saiga » Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:34 am

Not only do we have a direct statement that Gohan is stronger than Gotenks, we also have a direct statement that Gohan-Boo is stronger than Gotenks-Boo:
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Singh is King » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:00 am

DB > DBZ
GT wasn't that horrible
DB Super had a better starting than its current episodes: really seems lacking in creativity to rehash BoG and then RoF's events rather than going with a new story

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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:44 pm

GT is significantly better than the Cell & Buu Sagas, especially the latter and should be used as inspiration for future material in the franchise.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:22 pm

DB > DBZ is not a unpopular opinion since most people feel like the original DB show was a better written show then DBZ. I do feel like DBZ from Saiyan saga - Freeza saga was good, but started to go downhill afterwards. Buu saga was a major mess looking back on it.
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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:48 pm

Comparing DB to DBZ is like comparing Battle of Gods to Resurrection F. The former is story-driven, while action is secondary. The latter is the reverse.
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Post by Singh is King » Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:44 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:DB > DBZ is not a unpopular opinion since most people feel like the original DB show was a better written show then DBZ.
Glad that's not just me: you'd be surprised what the YouTube fandom has to say on that.
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Comparing DB to DBZ is like comparing Battle of Gods to Resurrection F. The former is story-driven, while action is secondary. The latter is the reverse.
Couldn't agree more.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:42 am

Well Youtube has the worst DB fandom out there. I won't view the whole DB fandom based on Youtube, Facebook and Twitter.
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Post by Ree » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:02 pm

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by VintageSaiyan » Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:32 pm

Movie 6 was one of the better movies.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:35 pm

VintageSaiyan wrote:Movie 6 was one of the better movies.
I've always thought so. I've never really understood the criticisms against it.

"It's a rehash of Mecha Freeza!!!!" "How?" "It's got a Metal Freeza guy!" "Okay, but how is Cooler anything like Mecha Freeza apart from being metal?" "HE'S A RE-HASH!!!!"

Granted, I would have preferred Cooler to be cut out completely, and have had the Big Gete Star as it's own entity, perhaps a "Big Getecron," if you will. Regardless, the movie itself is perfectly fine, especially when compared to the others in the series.
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Post by jcogginsa » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:39 pm

I've never though Cooler looks all that much like Frieza

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Post by MajinMan » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:50 pm

The Buu Arc was the best in the series and Teen Gohan is better than SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:52 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
VintageSaiyan wrote:Movie 6 was one of the better movies.
I've always thought so. I've never really understood the criticisms against it.

"It's a rehash of Mecha Freeza!!!!" "How?" "It's got a Metal Freeza guy!" "Okay, but how is Cooler anything like Mecha Freeza apart from being metal?" "HE'S A RE-HASH!!!!"

Granted, I would have preferred Cooler to be cut out completely, and have had the Big Gete Star as it's own entity, perhaps a "Big Getecron," if you will. Regardless, the movie itself is perfectly fine, especially when compared to the others in the series.
I thought most complaints came from the animation of the movie, rather than the plot itself.

And that the complaints about the animation of the movie came from TFS...

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:54 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
VintageSaiyan wrote:Movie 6 was one of the better movies.
I've always thought so. I've never really understood the criticisms against it.

"It's a rehash of Mecha Freeza!!!!" "How?" "It's got a Metal Freeza guy!" "Okay, but how is Cooler anything like Mecha Freeza apart from being metal?" "HE'S A RE-HASH!!!!"

Granted, I would have preferred Cooler to be cut out completely, and have had the Big Gete Star as it's own entity, perhaps a "Big Getecron," if you will. Regardless, the movie itself is perfectly fine, especially when compared to the others in the series.
I thought most complaints came from the animation of the movie, rather than the plot itself.

And that the complaints about the animation of the movie came from TFS...
Animation doesn't particularly bother me unless it's bad enough to make the movie unwatchable. M6's animation isn't bad enough to do that, so I really only pay attention to the story criticisms.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:04 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
VintageSaiyan wrote:Movie 6 was one of the better movies.
I've always thought so. I've never really understood the criticisms against it.

"It's a rehash of Mecha Freeza!!!!" "How?" "It's got a Metal Freeza guy!" "Okay, but how is Cooler anything like Mecha Freeza apart from being metal?" "HE'S A RE-HASH!!!!"

Granted, I would have preferred Cooler to be cut out completely, and have had the Big Gete Star as it's own entity, perhaps a "Big Getecron," if you will. Regardless, the movie itself is perfectly fine, especially when compared to the others in the series.
I never understood the comparison between Meta-Cooler and Mecha Frieza. I don't mind the animation either because it's not noticeable enough to ruin my viewing experience... unlike episode 5 of Super. Personally, the reason I dislike it is because I find it boring. As in, the only version I've watched (dub). It has that horrible GT theme playing. Everything that composer touches becomes a bore.

Besides that, everything happens too quickly. More so than every other DBZ movie; there's no proper build-up to anything, IIRC.
-Everyone is already at Namek
-Giant colony and robotssssss everywhere.
-Cooler is randomly the main culprit.
-Him and Goku immediately start fighting.
- Vegeta randomly appears. This is wayyy more random than his other movie appearances, btw.
-They struggle against Meta-Cooler, but beat him.
- Meta-Cooler army appears.
- Instead of killing Goku and Vegeta... they abduct them and bring them to the ****ing core of the Geti Star? The ONE weak point?!
- Goku easily kills the real Cooler.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:05 pm

MajinMan wrote:The Buu Arc was the best in the series and Teen Gohan is better than SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
I disagree about the boo arc (I find the red ribbon army arc to be the best), but thank you I'm not the only one who thinks teen gohan is better then ssj2 kid gohan.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:07 pm

I thought the bad animation was incredibly noticeable especially in the fight between base/Kaioken Goku and Coola, and even early parts of the SS fight. Completely destroyed my enjoyment the first time I watched it. It's just as bad to look at as most of episode 5 of Super.

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