Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
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Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
So, ever since he was revealed in June of 2015, most people (myself included) have assumed he was a God of Destruction like Beerus.
I mean, he has an Attendant, like Whis, and he has a liquor-based name...
But what if that is simply how his species works? Admittedly, it's a pretty big stretch to say they all come with powerful Attendants, which I personally feel is the weak link in the "species" argument. However, the naming convention would actually make more since if it were based on Beerus' species, rather than the Hakaishin rank itself.
Think about it:
Saiyan = Vegetables
Namekians = Snails/slugs (Except for King Piccolo's children, but they grew up on Earth)
Freeza's species - Low Temperature
Beerus' feline species/their Attendants - Liquor?
Now, granted, Akira Toriyama uses puns everywhere, so this is hardly concrete proof of anything. I just thought it fit well with the other species-wide naming conventions we have seen. Usually, when puns are used it is either for an organization OR a species, but very rarely both at the same time.
Now, the evidence for Champa being a God of Destruction is mainly in his Attendant. She looks a lot like Whis, to the point where people - in absence of a name - just call her "Female Whis". She has a staff, she follows Champa around, and that's all we really know about her. It would be odd if his whole species had such individuals paired with them for some reason, and Whis does seem to imply he has authority over the position of God of Destruction, so I think her presence is a point in favor of Champa being a Hakaishin.
But which do you personally favor?
I mean, he has an Attendant, like Whis, and he has a liquor-based name...
But what if that is simply how his species works? Admittedly, it's a pretty big stretch to say they all come with powerful Attendants, which I personally feel is the weak link in the "species" argument. However, the naming convention would actually make more since if it were based on Beerus' species, rather than the Hakaishin rank itself.
Think about it:
Saiyan = Vegetables
Namekians = Snails/slugs (Except for King Piccolo's children, but they grew up on Earth)
Freeza's species - Low Temperature
Beerus' feline species/their Attendants - Liquor?
Now, granted, Akira Toriyama uses puns everywhere, so this is hardly concrete proof of anything. I just thought it fit well with the other species-wide naming conventions we have seen. Usually, when puns are used it is either for an organization OR a species, but very rarely both at the same time.
Now, the evidence for Champa being a God of Destruction is mainly in his Attendant. She looks a lot like Whis, to the point where people - in absence of a name - just call her "Female Whis". She has a staff, she follows Champa around, and that's all we really know about her. It would be odd if his whole species had such individuals paired with them for some reason, and Whis does seem to imply he has authority over the position of God of Destruction, so I think her presence is a point in favor of Champa being a Hakaishin.
But which do you personally favor?
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Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
I can see it going either way, but I would much prefer if he's just another of Beerus's species. I'm not a fan of all Gods of Destruction being irritable cat people, and I like the idea of there somewhere being a planet of catmen with super strong Alfreds keeping them in check.
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Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
Yeah, I don't like the idea that all of the Gods of Destruction will just look like Beeruses with different features either. Two of them being that way doesn't necessarily mean they're all going to be that way, though -- that'd be like assuming the Kami of each world is Namekian just because we see Earth having two Namekians in that position in a row.I'm not a fan of all Gods of Destruction being irritable cat people, and I like the idea of there somewhere being a planet of catmen with super strong Alfreds keeping them in check.
So maybe Beerus/Whis and Champa/??? came from the same world populated by purple cat dudes and blue-skinned humanoids, and there just happened to be two pairs of them that became Gods of Destruction/attendants. Or maybe Whis' species are some Shinjin-type beings from a "super Kaioshin realm" type place (located in its own "bubble" outside of the twelve universes just like how the Kaioshin realm is outside Universe 7) assigned to the role of attendants for the Gods of Destruction and two of them just happened to pick purple cat dudes.
Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
The fact that he has an attendant really makes it seem like he's another God of destruction. There are different universes one God of destruction for each. The Kaioshin were all of a similar species more or less and I'm guessing the GoDs will all be cats with Alfreds as someone eloquently put it.
Another alternative I see is champa and what's-her-name being the previous GoDs with Beerus and Whis eventually taking over (think Garlic Jr and Kami) OR rivals to Beerus and Whis, like wannabe usurpers or something. With Toriyama and Toei you never know they chop and change a lot. Foreshadowings become red herrings and retcons are alive everywhere.
But so far I think the plan is for them to be rival GoD and attendant from a different universe. They'll probably become fodder later on like Kaioshin, lots of mystique and hype and then they get thrown by the wayside after a saga or two.
Another alternative I see is champa and what's-her-name being the previous GoDs with Beerus and Whis eventually taking over (think Garlic Jr and Kami) OR rivals to Beerus and Whis, like wannabe usurpers or something. With Toriyama and Toei you never know they chop and change a lot. Foreshadowings become red herrings and retcons are alive everywhere.
But so far I think the plan is for them to be rival GoD and attendant from a different universe. They'll probably become fodder later on like Kaioshin, lots of mystique and hype and then they get thrown by the wayside after a saga or two.
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Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
Well, for what it's worth, all of the Kaioshin shared some distinct similarities; Mohawk hairstyle, pointy ears, clothing, earrings...Pantalones wrote:Yeah, I don't like the idea that all of the Gods of Destruction will just look like Beeruses with different features either.I'm not a fan of all Gods of Destruction being irritable cat people, and I like the idea of there somewhere being a planet of catmen with super strong Alfreds keeping them in check.
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Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
That's true, but since it was later revealed that all of the Kaioshin are members of a specific race within a specific species (golden-fruit Shinjin), it actually makes sense that they'd look similar. Meanwhile, we have Whis offering to give Goku the God of Destruction position at some point in the future when Beerus dies... which implies that Gods of Destruction work more like the Kami type positions (anyone, of any species, can become one if they're chosen) than they do Kaioshin positions.
I could see the outfit Beerus and Champa wear as a sort of "God of Destruction uniform," which would be about the equivalent of the Kaioshin outfits all being similar... attendants all having a staff like the one Whis has, too -- that's kinda like all the Kaioshin having Potara earrings, even though they're super-powerful fusion-triggering artifacts. But given what we already know about how the position works (that Whis can just offer the job to someone else, they don't have to be a purple cat), it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for the Gods of Destruction to all be from the same race of purple cats.
I could see the outfit Beerus and Champa wear as a sort of "God of Destruction uniform," which would be about the equivalent of the Kaioshin outfits all being similar... attendants all having a staff like the one Whis has, too -- that's kinda like all the Kaioshin having Potara earrings, even though they're super-powerful fusion-triggering artifacts. But given what we already know about how the position works (that Whis can just offer the job to someone else, they don't have to be a purple cat), it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for the Gods of Destruction to all be from the same race of purple cats.
Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
I'm sure we'll know when they tell us. Just gotta wait a bit...or a really long time as Super is playing things safe so it could be a long time til they finally introduce him.
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Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
Hasn't it been confirmed that Champa is from Universe 6?
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No, it has not. That's what we presume, but we know nothing for sure about his origins.nickzambuto wrote:Hasn't it been confirmed that Champa is from Universe 6?
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Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
I would hope he isn't. I am hoping that he's some younger, weaker, jealous brother of Beerus pissed because he didn't get chosen for the role of God of Destruction so is now plotting to get into someone else's universe in an attempt to steal the position from someone else.
Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
Why would he have a female Whis, then?Bullza wrote:I would hope he isn't. I am hoping that he's some younger, weaker, jealous brother of Beerus pissed because he didn't get chosen for the role of God of Destruction so is now plotting to get into someone else's universe in an attempt to steal the position from someone else.
Re: Is Champa really a God of Destruction?
Well that's because Beerus and Champa are a part of a prestigious bloodline and are actually royalty on their home world and they all have their own attendant.Why would he have a female Whis, then?
When Whis said he was a lifeform known as Whis it was because Beerus' race artificially created them (like the Saibamen) for the specific purpose of serving the royal family.
The other Whis' are pretty strong as well but Beerus' and Champa's Whis are in a class of their own due to spending millions of years sparring and training with their master whereas the rest mainly just cook and clean.
Beerus and Champa are in a league of their for the same reason, it was the rivalry between them that made them want to be strong and outdo each other but Beerus was always the stronger and more naturally talented of the two which led to the jealousy and feud between them.


