The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:43 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
h0kuten wrote:Please watch the movie and you'll see Vegeta performing better than Ultimate Gohan in Battle of Gods.
Faulty argument since you're assuming Beers' effort level was consistent. If this was the case, Bulma is Ultimate Gohan tier for surviving a hit from Beers.
h0kuten wrote:& Beerus crediting Goku Ssj3 as the most fun he's had in Dragonball Super.
I haven't seen Super, so it'd help if you provided context for this. Is this after or before enraged Vegeta?
h0kuten wrote:Now, it's time for your turn.

Please bring your evidence from Battle of Gods or Dragonball Super to debunk mine.
Nothing says the status quo from the Boo arc changed.
Androids cannot be sensed so that debunks Beerus' effort not being consistent.

Please, no speculation.

I asked for evidence.

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Re: Vegeta post Zenkai vs. Piccolo merged with Nail

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:44 pm

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OWmyDragonBallz wrote:Vegeta post Zenkai vs. Piccolo merged with Nail

Is it verified after Vegeta was healed by Kuririn's blast through his stomach that he had surpassed Piccolo? And do the Daizenshuu state this?
Vegeta would be defeated badly; Piccolo is stronger than Freeza(2nd form) and Vegeta(post zenkai) is not anywhere close to Freeza's level.

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Piccolo 1,500,000

Vegeta is just an idiot.
He's talking about Vegeta after Dende healed him.

That Vegeta was definitely above Piccolo.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:45 pm

h0kuten wrote:Androids cannot be sensed so that debunks Beerus' effort not being consistent.
So, you're saying that even Bulma survived a full-force hit from someone far stronger than Ultimate Gohan? Sorry, that's impossible to take seriously.
h0kuten wrote:Please, no speculation.
I never speculated, I asked you a question which you ignored.
h0kuten wrote:I asked for evidence.
I don't need evidence. Nothing says the status quo from the Boo arc changed. Gohan > Gotenks > Goku should still stand.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:46 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
h0kuten wrote:Androids cannot be sensed so that debunks Beerus' effort not being consistent.
So, you're saying that even Tenshinhan survived a full-force hit from someone far stronger than Ultimate Gohan? Sorry, that's impossible to take seriously.
h0kuten wrote:Please, no speculation.
I never speculated, I asked you a question which you ignored.
h0kuten wrote:I asked for evidence.
I don't need evidence. Nothing says the status quo from the Boo arc changed. Gohan > Gotenks > Goku should still stand.
You brag about making arguments supported by evidence. I brought feats and statements. You need you bring some to tear down what I've constructed.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:47 pm

h0kuten wrote:You brag about making arguments supported by evidence. I brought feats and statements. You need you bring some to tear down what I've constructed.
Your evidence was refuted, so now instead of countering my argument, you instead say you have evidence? Even though it was refuted? This argument is a waste of my time. Don't bother replying because this is only spamming a thread that's not even meant for this debate.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:48 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
h0kuten wrote:You brag about making arguments supported by evidence. I brought feats and statements. You need you bring some to tear down what I've constructed.
Your evidence was refuted so now instead of countering my argument you instead say you have evidence? This argument is a waste of my time. Don't bother replying because this is only spamming a thread that's not even meant for this debate.
I brought statement from Beerus stating Vegeta is the most fun he's had since Goku.

I've got feats from Db Super & Battle of Gods that are consistent with my chains.

You have brought zip.

~Awaiting your evidence.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:51 pm

h0kuten wrote:I brought statement from Beerus stating Goku Ssj3 is the most fun he's had after Vegeta becomes enraged.
enraged SS2 Vegeta > SS3 Goku, yet Goku was more fun to Beers. All that proves is that the strongest person doesn't provide the most entertainment to Beers. You pretty much just "debunked" yourself.
h0kuten wrote:I've got feats from Db Super & Battle of Gods that are consistent with my chains.
I refuted them, yet instead of countering my arguments, you just keep saying that you have feats.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:52 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
h0kuten wrote:I brought statement from Beerus stating Goku Ssj3 is the most fun he's had after Vegeta becomes enraged.
enraged SS2 Vegeta > SS3 Goku, yet Goku was more fun to Beers. All that proves is that the strongest person doesn't provide the most entertainment to Beers. You pretty much just "debunked" yourself.
h0kuten wrote:I've got feats from Db Super & Battle of Gods that are consistent with my chains.
I refuted them, yet instead of countering my arguments, you just keep saying that you have feats.
Fun is an alternative for strength in the Dragonball world, and has been since the beginning. Goku being the second most fun he's had also means he's the second strongest next to Raging Vegeta.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:55 pm

h0kuten wrote:Fun is an alternative for strength in the Dragonball world, and has been since the beginning. Goku being the second most fun he's had also means he's the second strongest next to Raging Vegeta.
But you said Beers said Goku was the most fun he's had? Are you making things up or just trolling?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:55 pm

I don't know if there is really a notable difference between using Gohan or Vegeta as partners for Fusion. Goku never experienced Fusion with anyone to really know how strong he would get. But somehow he thinks he will be able to defeat Boo, while Boo dismiss the idea of even Fusion being a match for him. This situation seems more like working-in-progress than solid foundation for me, from both sides. In the end, only Super Vegetto proved his worth against Majin Boo.

As for the Dragon Ball Super debate, Beerus pretty much suggested Vegeta was the first in a while to provide more fun in battle than he had with Goku in Kaio's Planet, so it seems Goku in Kaio's Planet is stronger than Gohan and the others.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ahill1 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:08 pm

As for the Dragon Ball Super debate, Beerus pretty much suggested Vegeta was the first in a while to provide more fun in battle than he had with Goku in Kaio's Planet, so it seems Goku in Kaio's Planet is stronger than Gohan and the others.
Agreed 100%; Goku SSJ3(DBS) is stronger than Gohan IMO; Beerus had more fun with Goku than with Gohan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ahill1 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:14 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
ahill1 wrote:Common sense
You're sounding like t0sh now. Arrogantly spewing your opinion as though it was fact as opposed to using actual evidence doesn't prove anything. Metamoran Gokhan being stronger than Gogeta has a solid foundation behind it.
What?? What you're talking about dude? I gave my opinion that Gogeta(Metamoru) = Gokhan(Metamoru); I don't know when I was arrogant.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:29 pm

ahill1 wrote:What?? What you're talking about dude? I gave my opinion that Gogeta(Metamoru) = Gokhan(Metamoru); I don't know when I was arrogant
You said your opinion was "common sense".

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:37 pm

Radditz vs. the Sword Art Online universe

He can solo it or could they stop him?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:51 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Radditz vs. the Sword Art Online universe

He can solo it or could they stop him?
That entirely depends on if they're in the game world or not. Cause if so Kirito can just access the debug menu. If not then Raditz walks through them because he can FLY!

Now Raditz vs Accel World...that is a fun match. Sadly I can see Raditz getting turned to Swiss by Scarlet Rain.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:43 pm

Thor & World Breaker Hulk vs Organic Final Form Frieza 100%

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:47 pm

h0kuten wrote:Thor & World Breaker Hulk vs Organic Final Form Freeza 100%
What do you have against Freeza?

Then again, you've already proven that you don't know much about Marvel, so I'll just say that Thor solo's. Effortlessly. Assuming Freeza doesn't blow up the planet, the Hulk does too.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:49 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
h0kuten wrote:Thor & World Breaker Hulk vs Organic Final Form Freeza 100%
What do you have against Freeza?

Then again, you've already proven that you don't know much about Marvel, so I'll just say that Thor solo's. Effortlessly. Assuming Freeza doesn't blow up the planet, the Hulk does too.
Thor can be K.O'd from planetary threat.

Frieza can bust a planet with the flick of his finger.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by voltlunok » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:49 pm

h0kuten wrote:Thor & World Breaker Hulk vs Organic Final Form Freeza 100%
The Marvel duo shrug, make quick work of Freeza and return to whatever argument they were having before.
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