The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:50 pm

h0kuten wrote:
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h0kuten wrote:Thor & World Breaker Hulk vs Organic Final Form Freeza 100%
What do you have against Freeza?

Then again, you've already proven that you don't know much about Marvel, so I'll just say that Thor solo's. Effortlessly. Assuming Freeza doesn't blow up the planet, the Hulk does too.
Thor can be K.O'd from planetary threat.

Freeza can bust a planet with the flick of his finger.
Thor has taken on galactic threats, and has injured the Phoenix Force, which is a universal threat. If you want to lowball Thor, go ahead, but that same logic when applied to Dragon Ball hurts Freeza way more than it does Thor.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:53 pm

Thor has taken on galactic threats, and has injured the Phoenix Force, which is a universal threat. If you want to lowball Thor, go ahead, but that same logic when applied to Dragon Ball hurts Freeza way more than it does Thor.
I could punch a grizzly bear in the nose and hurt it. It doesn't mean I could tank an attack from it.

So it doesn't prove anything.

Thor is still a planetary threat.

Stop wanking Thor please.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:01 am

h0kuten wrote:
Thor has taken on galactic threats, and has injured the Phoenix Force, which is a universal threat. If you want to lowball Thor, go ahead, but that same logic when applied to Dragon Ball hurts Freeza way more than it does Thor.
I could punch a grizzly bear in the nose and hurt it. It doesn't mean I could tank an attack from it.

So it doesn't prove anything.

Thor is still a planetary threat.

Stop wanking Thor please.
Lol.

Thor took on the Phoenix Force, drove it off, and survived. That trumps anything Freeza ever dreamed of doing. Thor has fought other gods from inside the sun. He's staggered Thanos while wielding the Infinity Gauntlet. Any energy attack that Freeza did would be absorbed or deflected by Mjolnir, and Thor is a superior warrior. He has taken on Heralds of Galactus, including the Silver Surfer, who is much, much faster than light. He can survive in space, so blowing up the planet will accomplish nothing.

You're putting a relative ant against a monster truck. Again, you are demonstrating your vast lack of knowledge of the characters that you are pitting against whichever Dragon Ball character you've decided to wank today. Please, educate yourself before doing so again.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:03 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
h0kuten wrote:
Thor has taken on galactic threats, and has injured the Phoenix Force, which is a universal threat. If you want to lowball Thor, go ahead, but that same logic when applied to Dragon Ball hurts Freeza way more than it does Thor.
I could punch a grizzly bear in the nose and hurt it. It doesn't mean I could tank an attack from it.

So it doesn't prove anything.

Thor is still a planetary threat.

Stop wanking Thor please.
Lol.

Thor took on the Phoenix Force, drove it off, and survived. That trumps anything Freeza ever dreamed of doing. Thor has fought other gods from inside the sun. He's staggered Thanos while wielding the Infinity Gauntlet. Any energy attack that Freeza did would be absorbed or deflected by Mjolnir, and Thor is a superior warrior. He has taken on Heralds of Galactus, including the Silver Surfer, who is much, much faster than light. He can survive in space, so blowing up the planet will accomplish nothing.

You're putting a relative ant against a monster truck. Again, you are demonstrating your vast lack of knowledge of the characters that you are pitting against whichever Dragon Ball character you've decided to wank today. Please, educate yourself before doing so again.
Thor is only a planetary threat.

& no, I won't go into an endless debate with you about it. I know my facts.

P.S You are only using Thor's highest showings to make him appear as godly as possible and also trying to be an ass by telling me I don't know my facts. Despite being a member of Comicvine for the last several years.

P.P.S Thor is only a planetary threat. King_Saturn from comicvine would be more than happy to tell you so.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:13 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
h0kuten wrote:
Thor has taken on galactic threats, and has injured the Phoenix Force, which is a universal threat. If you want to lowball Thor, go ahead, but that same logic when applied to Dragon Ball hurts Freeza way more than it does Thor.
I could punch a grizzly bear in the nose and hurt it. It doesn't mean I could tank an attack from it.

So it doesn't prove anything.

Thor is still a planetary threat.

Stop wanking Thor please.
Lol.

Thor took on the Phoenix Force, drove it off, and survived. That trumps anything Freeza ever dreamed of doing. Thor has fought other gods from inside the sun. He's staggered Thanos while wielding the Infinity Gauntlet. Any energy attack that Freeza did would be absorbed or deflected by Mjolnir, and Thor is a superior warrior. He has taken on Heralds of Galactus, including the Silver Surfer, who is much, much faster than light. He can survive in space, so blowing up the planet will accomplish nothing.

You're putting a relative ant against a monster truck. Again, you are demonstrating your vast lack of knowledge of the characters that you are pitting against whichever Dragon Ball character you've decided to wank today. Please, educate yourself before doing so again.
OH BTW, I bet you never heard the interview where the writer stated the Phoenix Force was about to hand Thor's ass to him.

Also you're using the IG as an example? Wolverine manage to catch Thanos off guard and actually cut through him.

According to your logic: Wolverine > Thor.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:17 am

h0kuten wrote: Thor is only a planetary threat.

& no, I won't go into an endless debate with you about it. I know my facts.

P.S You are only using Thor's highest showings to make him appear as godly as possible and also trying to be an ass by telling me I don't know my facts. Despite being a member of Comicvine for the last several years.

P.P.S Thor is only a planetary threat. King_Saturn from comicvine would be more than happy to tell you so.
King_Saturn isn't here. If you'd like to debate for yourself, then please do so.

I'm picking consistent feats. Thor fighting one galactic or above threat is an outlier. Two is a fluke. Three or more? It's consistent. The guy's driven off both Galactus and the Phoenix force, staggered Thanos with the Gauntlet, defeated Demiurge the God-Eater, killed Glory, who was a conglomerate of a thousand god pantheons, staggered the Chaos King, who devoured 97% of the multiverse, injured the Stranger, etc.

Freeza's highest showing is blowing up a planet.

I said this to you last time, and it's the same problem that most of the strength "debaters" over at Comic Vine have, but none of you are actually reading the comics. You are completely missing the context of all these feats.

And, aside from the Infinity Gauntlet fight, all of those feats are from the last 10 years. You don't even want me to get into Thor's Silver and Bronze age stuff.

If you've been on Comic Vine for that long, you will understand that we don't include low outliers for these debates, because that's all they are. Outliers. Otherwise, composite Goku can be hurt by rocks and glass, he can't lift 40 tons in base, and Super Saiyan Goten and Trunks are slower than Krillin was at the 21st Budokai.

But by all means, show me how much you "know."
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:21 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
h0kuten wrote: Thor is only a planetary threat.

& no, I won't go into an endless debate with you about it. I know my facts.

P.S You are only using Thor's highest showings to make him appear as godly as possible and also trying to be an ass by telling me I don't know my facts. Despite being a member of Comicvine for the last several years.

P.P.S Thor is only a planetary threat. King_Saturn from comicvine would be more than happy to tell you so.
King_Saturn isn't here. If you'd like to debate for yourself, then please do so.

I'm picking consistent feats. Thor fighting one galactic or above threat is an outlier. Two is a fluke. Three or more? It's consistent. The guy's driven off both Galactus and the Phoenix force, staggered Thanos with the Gauntlet, defeated Demiurge the God-Eater, killed Glory, who was a conglomerate of a thousand god pantheons, staggered the Chaos King, who devoured 97% of the multiverse, injured the Stranger, etc.

Freeza's highest showing is blowing up a planet.

I said this to you last time, and it's the same problem that most of the strength "debaters" over at Comic Vine have, but none of you are actually reading the comics. You are completely missing the context of all these feats.

And, aside from the Infinity Gauntlet fight, all of those feats are from the last 10 years. You don't even want me to get into Thor's Silver and Bronze age stuff.

If you've been on Comic Vine for that long, you will understand that we don't include low outliers for these debates, because that's all they are. Outliers. Otherwise, composite Goku can be hurt by rocks and glass, he can't lift 40 tons in base, and Super Saiyan Goten and Trunks are slower than Krillin was at the 21st Budokai.

But by all means, show me how much you "know."
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:24 am

h0kuten wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
h0kuten wrote: Thor is only a planetary threat.

& no, I won't go into an endless debate with you about it. I know my facts.

P.S You are only using Thor's highest showings to make him appear as godly as possible and also trying to be an ass by telling me I don't know my facts. Despite being a member of Comicvine for the last several years.

P.P.S Thor is only a planetary threat. King_Saturn from comicvine would be more than happy to tell you so.
King_Saturn isn't here. If you'd like to debate for yourself, then please do so.

I'm picking consistent feats. Thor fighting one galactic or above threat is an outlier. Two is a fluke. Three or more? It's consistent. The guy's driven off both Galactus and the Phoenix force, staggered Thanos with the Gauntlet, defeated Demiurge the God-Eater, killed Glory, who was a conglomerate of a thousand god pantheons, staggered the Chaos King, who devoured 97% of the multiverse, injured the Stranger, etc.

Freeza's highest showing is blowing up a planet.

I said this to you last time, and it's the same problem that most of the strength "debaters" over at Comic Vine have, but none of you are actually reading the comics. You are completely missing the context of all these feats.

And, aside from the Infinity Gauntlet fight, all of those feats are from the last 10 years. You don't even want me to get into Thor's Silver and Bronze age stuff.

If you've been on Comic Vine for that long, you will understand that we don't include low outliers for these debates, because that's all they are. Outliers. Otherwise, composite Goku can be hurt by rocks and glass, he can't lift 40 tons in base, and Super Saiyan Goten and Trunks are slower than Krillin was at the 21st Budokai.

But by all means, show me how much you "know."
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:26 am

Take some time and read it.

Are there any Skyfathers in DC? ARE THERE?

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:27 am

h0kuten wrote:Take some time and read it.

Are there any Skyfathers in DC? ARE THERE?
DC and Marvel operate on totally different rules. What you posted doesn't relate to the subject at hand at all.
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Post by h0kuten » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:28 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
h0kuten wrote:Take some time and read it.

Are there any Skyfathers in DC? ARE THERE?
DC and Marvel operate on totally different rules. What you posted doesn't relate to the subject at hand at all.
Thor is around Herald level, definitely weaker than the Surfer. Who is Galactus' greatest creation (probably hyperbole). Regardless, it states Heralds are planetary threats.

:)

All the Thor wanking aside.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:30 am

h0kuten wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
h0kuten wrote:Take some time and read it.

Are there any Skyfathers in DC? ARE THERE?
DC and Marvel operate on totally different rules. What you posted doesn't relate to the subject at hand at all.
Thor is around Herald level, definitely weaker than the Surfer. Who is Galactus' greatest creation (probably hyperbole). Regardless, it states Heralds are planetary threats.

:)
In DC.

Thor, Galactus, and the Surfer are with Marvel.

And I'm not sure why you seem to think this guy is some kind of authority, anyway.

Incidentally, to my knowledge, the Surfer has never beaten Thor.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:19 am

Piccolo after he got wished back on Namek and before he fused with Nail vs. The Ginyu Force.

Round 1: He fights each one at a time
Round 2: He fights all of them at once

How does this match go?
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Post by Khin » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:22 am

1: Super Saiyan God Gotenks vs. Whis
2: MSSJ Goku(CG) and MSSJ Gohan(CG) vs. Trunks(Post ROSAT) and Goten(Post ROSAT)
3: SSJ3 Vegetto vs. Beerus(Goku's prediction)
4: Nail vs. Zarbon and Dodoria
5: Weakened Golden Freeza vs. 80% Super Saiyan God Goku
6: Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs. Super Perfect Cell
7: SSJ3 Kid Gohan vs. Fat Boo
8: ASSJ Vegeta(CG),ASSJ Trunks(CG) and Piccolo(CG) vs. Perfect Cell(After fighting MSSJ Goku)
9: MSSJ Goku vs. Cell Junior
10:Piccolo,Tenshinhan and Kuririn(All in Saiyan Saga) vs. Nappa

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:35 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Piccolo after he got wished back on Namek and before he fused with Nail vs. The Ginyu Force.

Round 1: He fights each one at a time
Round 2: He fights all of them at once

How does this match go?
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SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:2: MSSJ Goku(CG) and MSSJ Gohan(CG) vs. Trunks(Post ROSAT) and Goten(Post ROSAT)
4: Nail vs. Zarbon and Dodoria
5: Weakened Golden Freeza vs. 80% Super Saiyan God Goku
6: Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs. Super Perfect Cell
7: SSJ3 Kid Gohan vs. Fat Boo
9: MSSJ Goku vs. Cell Junior
2. The former team wins because of Gohan.
4. Nail one-shots both of them. His gap over them is way to big for team work to do anything.
5. Godku wins.
6. I have them as equals so Cell will win.
7. Gohan's super tiny power advantage won't help him overcome Boo's broken regeneration and infinite stamina.
9. Goku flattens the Cell kid, who's only on par with Vegeta.

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Post by h0kuten » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:05 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: 1: Super Saiyan God Gotenks vs. Whis
Too much speculation to answer this. We don't even know the Metamoran multiplier.
2: MSSJ Goku(CG) and MSSJ Gohan(CG) vs. Trunks(Post ROSAT) and Goten(Post ROSAT)
3: SSJ3 Vegetto vs. Beerus(Goku's prediction)
4: Nail vs. Zarbon and Dodoria
5: Weakened Golden Freeza vs. 80% Super Saiyan God Goku
6: Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs. Super Perfect Cell
7: SSJ3 Kid Gohan vs. Fat Boo
8: ASSJ Vegeta(CG),ASSJ Trunks(CG) and Piccolo(CG) vs. Perfect Cell(After fighting MSSJ Goku)
9: MSSJ Goku vs. Cell Junior
10:Piccolo,Tenshinhan and Kuririn(All in Saiyan Saga) vs. Nappa

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:17 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: 1: Super Saiyan God Gotenks vs. Whis
2: MSSJ Goku(CG) and MSSJ Gohan(CG) vs. Trunks(Post ROSAT) and Goten(Post ROSAT)
3: SSJ3 Vegetto vs. Beerus(Goku's prediction)
4: Nail vs. Zarbon and Dodoria
5: Weakened Golden Freeza vs. 80% Super Saiyan God Goku
6: Movie 10 LSSJ Broly vs. Super Perfect Cell
7: SSJ3 Kid Gohan vs. Fat Boo
8: ASSJ Vegeta(CG),ASSJ Trunks(CG) and Piccolo(CG) vs. Perfect Cell(After fighting MSSJ Goku)
9: MSSJ Goku vs. Cell Junior
10:Piccolo,Tenshinhan and Kuririn(All in Saiyan Saga) vs. Nappa
- Whis still wins with little effort
- Gohan alone would effortlessly beat Trunks and Goten
- Vegetto still gets stomped
- Nail one shot the both of them
- SSJG Goku wins
- This is close. I'm giving it to Cell because he has regeneration on his side.
- I reckon Gohan would be stronger, but Boo's broken regeneration and infinite stamina would prove too much of an obstacle to overcome.
- Perfect Cell still stomps everyone
- Goku takes this if he goes all out
- This fight already happened. Nappa wins.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Absolute Ice » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:03 pm

Wiss vs Thor.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:08 pm

Absolute Ice wrote:Wiss vs Thor.
....hmmm

As far as pure strength goes, Thor takes this in a walk. But when it comes to sheer power....Whis should be superior to Beerus, who is comparable to higher-end Heralds of Galactus, who are roughly on par with Thor. I'd place Whis among the weaker Skyfathers in Marvel, as he hasn't demonstrated the vast matter manipulation that Odin and Zeus have. Regardless, that puts him a step ahead of Thor.

If Thor can talk Whis into taking the God Blast or the Anti-Force head-on, Thor can win. Otherwise, I think he's just outclassed here.

This is assuming you mean "regular" Thor, as he's usually depicted, of course.
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Post by Absolute Ice » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:19 pm

Yes, it is the "regular" one.
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