Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[Birusu16]

Not to mention Namek doesn't have numerous planets orbiting it like the Kaioshin realm does.

[Draconic]

The box to the right of Elder Kaioshin's first panel says Kaioshin Realm (계왕신계).

Sorry for the confusion. The landscape looked more like Namek to me.

[Sora Saiyan]

If anybody follows calcs, the Goku and Beerus fist clash is calced at Galaxy level +

[Pannaliciour]

If anybody follows calcs, the Goku and Beerus fist clash is calced at Galaxy level +

Hmm he shakes planets outside the universe, why so low?

[Lord Gogeta]

Saying is Galaxy+ is pretty much the embodiment of downplay. The mere shockwaves were felt in others dimensions and threaten to destroy the Universe. And that's only the shockwaves. See the direct exchange is by farrr more powerful then the shcokwaves whonwere just side effects of the Fist clash.

But hey DB is cursed and it will always be downplayed because it dwarves most of American's favorite's characters

[Khin]

So its now.

Kame-Sennin(Dragon Ball) and Piccolo(Beginning of Z) = Earth Moon Level+

Vegeta(Saiyan Saga) = Small Planet Level(Earth)

1rst Form Freeza = Planet Level+

Super Perfect Cell = Solar System Level+

Super Buu = Multi Solar System or Galaxy Level ?

Super Vegetto = Galaxy or Multi Galaxy Level ?

Beerus = Universe Level

Whis = ????

[Bullza]

I don't know if people are kinda jumping the gun a little on this whole universe level stuff. I think we should just wait to see what happens before we can say if they can just outright destroy a Universe.

Hell, nobody has even been shown destroying a sun yet.

[Pannaliciour]

I don't know if people are kinda jumping the gun a little on this whole universe level stuff. I think we should just wait to see what happens before we can say if they can just outright destroy a Universe.

Hell, nobody has even been shown destroying a sun yet.

Beerus did, 2 suns to be exactly. Not shown but Whis stated it that he did in ROF.

[Sora Saiyan]

This feat is so far above Star level it's ridiculous. You don't need to do calcs to realise that much at least. I'll wait for the anime before I make up my mind on this totally. We need Whis to comment on it, that would definitely seal the deal for me (Though I do believe Rou Kaioshin).

[Bullza]

I don't know if people are kinda jumping the gun a little on this whole universe level stuff. I think we should just wait to see what happens before we can say if they can just outright destroy a Universe.

Hell, nobody has even been shown destroying a sun yet.

Beerus did, 2 suns to be exactly. Not shown but Whis stated it that he did in ROF.

I believe it, I also believe he can destroy a Solar System because Whis said he could do so in an instant. Anything beyond that I wanna see and hear more before I actually believe it.

[Doctor.]

Beerus said he'd destroy the solar system in Super, too.

[Bullza]

Well unfortunately there was no Universe shaker punch in the anime, in fact the whole fight has played out completely different altogether so it likely won't be happening. They're gonna go at it more in the next episode but I doubt we'll see anything there either.

But does Goku have regenerative powers or something now? Beerus stabbed him but then the wound was gone. What happened there?

[Saiyan007]

Well unfortunately there was no Universe shaker punch in the anime, in fact the whole fight has played out completely different altogether so it likely won't be happening. They're gonna go at it more in the next episode but I doubt we'll see anything there either.

But does Goku have regenerative powers or something now? Beerus stabbed him but then the wound was gone. What happened there?

Dude the feat is obviously next episode that's why it's called "Universe Crumbles" no one was expecting the feat to happen this episode

and Goku now has a new ability of accelerated + regen healing

edit:

Next episode: the Kaioshins want to stop the fight. Apparently because of the whole "universe crumbling" thing.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/645394006608756737

Even in the preview you can see them winding up thier punches lol just wait till next week

[Bullza]

I really wouldn't be so sure. Them fighting in the City didn't happen and that won't be happening now. The punch happened while they were on Earth, at the time Supreme Kai and Elder Kai were getting the Dragon Ball's ready and that wasn't happening.

It's very different so there might be something similar or something said (probably more likely) but the Universe shaker punch happening....we'll see. From the NEP there looked like there was a chance for it to happen but I wouldn't hold my breathe.

[Saiyan007]

Whether it be a blast or punch the universe is going to crumble it's that simple that's why the kaioshins want to stop the fight

In the NEP you can even see them going to clash like in the manga lol

[Doctor.]

Also, from the preview, looks like God Goku can survive in space.

We'll have to wait until F to see if it's a plot hole or not.

[Birusu16]

^I wouldn't exactly be too sure of that yet. Toriyama stated they were fighting in the stratosphere in BoGs and they look to be doing the same in Super.

[Doctor.]

^I wouldn't exactly be too sure of that yet. Toriyama stated they were fighting in the stratosphere in BoGs and they look to be doing the same in Super.

Impossible, from the preview, they're clearly in space. They're a good chunk above the Earth.

[Birusu16]

^I wouldn't exactly be too sure of that yet. Toriyama stated they were fighting in the stratosphere in BoGs and they look to be doing the same in Super.

Impossible, from the preview, they're clearly in space. They're a good chunk above the Earth.

They were in BoGs as well and yet Toriyama specifically stated they were in the stratosphere. Statements from the author trump visuals. I more than anyone would love if god ki would allow the Saiyans to breathe in space, but until we get concrete evidence of it then I'm not going to claim such.

[Saiyan007]

That's clearly not the stratosphere,exosphere more likely