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If king piccolo was back...

Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:48 am

I was watching dragon ball and remebered thinking how i thought king piccolo would be wished back and not Freeza for the new movie. Could he even be wished back?what are your thoughts?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:02 am

Logic would dictate that he can't be. His soul is already inside Piccolo (Junior) and removing it to put in Daimao's body would effectively be killing him, which is something he can't do since Piccolo is stronger than his creator.

Though the rules of the series always change, so maybe Shenlong could just conjure up a new/cloned soul or something. I'd rather it not go down that path though.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:04 am

I was trying to figure that out too. I was acually kinda let down when i heard it was Freeza (before i saw it) i find king piccolo to be one of the more interesting villans

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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by Cetra » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:20 am

While they both are not the same, as their essence as an individual person is the consciousness/self, and both have their own (2 different), it at least would be possible by saying something like "they split up their soul (1 and the same) and one part is Piccolo and one is Piccolo Daimaoh", kind of like with him and Kami. This would be similiar to Dissociative Personality Disorder where one person splits up something that becomes its own individual (pretty much what both Lunchs are). So basically and in a way they could make it if they want.

Basically, if Piccolo would give up his dark side that dark side could restore Daimaohs consciousness (just as it created it when Kami split up), also similiar to Good Boo and Bad Boo, so there would be ways to write it.

But basically, I am not totally dissatisfied with the idea that Freeza comes back instead of Daimaoh. My problem was that the movie itself and Freeza's point of showing up (so basically, just so he was there) was not good in my opinion.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:33 am

It's not too hard to bring him back...indirectly. Just make it so he created two "sons," only one was off-screen. A bit on the contrived side, but the other "son" would in essence be what King Piccolo intended Piccolo Jr to be (i.e. himself), only he wouldn't be linked to Kami, as that was the real reason Piccolo Jr. was created: so there'd be another conscious body for Piccolo Daimao that is not intertwined with Kami.

It can be revealed that Piccolo Jr has been used as a pair of lens for the other Piccolo incarnation, allowing him to monitor everything that has occurred with Goku since the original Piccolo's defeat through Jr's very own eyes, without him realizing it.

Them plot twists.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by Cetra » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:35 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:as that was the real reason Piccolo Jr. was created: so there'd be another conscious body for Piccolo Daimao that is not intertwined with Kami.
But which soul would he have used as a base for his new body then?
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:45 am

50-50. Split. lol.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:23 pm

If Piccolo Daimao came back, he'd only care about Goku, while there'd be no real interest or much development with Piccolo Jr. That's just how it works now a days.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:13 pm

If King Piccolo came back... he would train for 4 weeks and become Platinum Piccolo.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:15 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:It's not too hard to bring him back...indirectly. Just make it so he created two "sons," only one was off-screen. A bit on the contrived side, but the other "son" would in essence be what King Piccolo intended Piccolo Jr to be (i.e. himself), only he wouldn't be linked to Kami, as that was the real reason Piccolo Jr. was created: so there'd be another conscious body for Piccolo Daimao that is not intertwined with Kami.

It can be revealed that Piccolo Jr has been used as a pair of lens for the other Piccolo incarnation, allowing him to monitor everything that has occurred with Goku since the original Piccolo's defeat through Jr's very own eyes, without him realizing it.

Them plot twists.
They'd have to explain how he survived the Buu Arc.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by Doctor. » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:27 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:They'd have to explain how he survived the Buu Arc.
He was on his way to Namek and arrives by the time the BoG arc begins. He ends up fusing with every Namekian to get stronger and opens up a portal to universe 6. Dun dun dun!

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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:37 pm

I really do like the idea of an evil Namekian (specifically, Piccolo Daimao) being the catalyst for something major, rather than the actual main villain, because of their history and impact in the series. We know nothing about the Nameless Namekian or this bizarre climate change that occurred in their original planet or this ancient Namekian book of tales. Connecting the pieces could make for a good, intriguing story.

Though nowadays, it's more likely we'll find out Beerus caused the drought in Namek because he found out they only drink water and had no food for him...
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:42 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I really do like the idea of an evil Namekian (specifically, Piccolo Daimao) being the catalyst for something major, rather than the actual main villain, because of their history and impact in the series. We know nothing about the Nameless Namekian or this bizarre climate change that occurred in their original planet or this ancient Namekian book of tales. Connecting the pieces could make for a good, intriguing story.

Though nowadays, it's more likely we'll find out Beerus caused the drought in Namek because he found out they only drink water and had no food for him...
They could have just used the dragonballs to wish for the best food in the universe. Beerus would leave satisfied.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by Sodhi » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:45 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:I really do like the idea of an evil Namekian (specifically, Piccolo Daimao) being the catalyst for something major, rather than the actual main villain, because of their history and impact in the series. We know nothing about the Nameless Namekian or this bizarre climate change that occurred in their original planet or this ancient Namekian book of tales. Connecting the pieces could make for a good, intriguing story.

Though nowadays, it's more likely we'll find out Beerus caused the drought in Namek because he found out they only drink water and had no food for him...
They could have just used the dragonballs to wish for the best food in the universe. Beerus would leave satisfied.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by Draconic » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:55 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Though nowadays, it's more likely we'll find out Beerus caused the drought in Namek because he found out they only drink water and had no food for him...
I wouldn't put it past them to do that with the Book of Tales being the place Beerus leard of SSG in the first place.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:09 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote: Though nowadays, it's more likely we'll find out Beerus caused the drought in Namek because he found out they only drink water and had no food for him...
Going by nowadays info...

Beerus is the reason why Kaio's planet is so small.
Beerus is the reason why Freeza destroyed Planet Vegeta.
Beerus is the reason why Elder Kai was sealed inside Z Sword.

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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by Absolute Ice » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:16 pm

Do not forget "Beerus" is the reason of the extinction of the beloved dinosaurs. How I wish to see Indominus Rex swallowing him until there is nothing left of that stupid god.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:54 pm

Splitting with piccolo would be interesting and give him a power boost.

My problem with frieza was that i was hoping it was someone other than him. But seeing how he was a joke in the movie i liked it. I dont hate frirza i just think he peeked stroy wize on namek.

A story about namek would be cool or a coherient movie about the saiyans not revolving around bardock

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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:09 am

I don't see the point of Piccolo Daimao coming back if Piccolo reach his limit. I don't see Piccolo Daimao somehow becoming as strong as SSjGSSj unless they give him a dues ex power boost.
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Re: If king piccolo was back...

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:37 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't see the point of Piccolo Daimao coming back if Piccolo reach his limit. I don't see Piccolo Daimao somehow becoming as strong as SSjGSSj unless they give him a dues ex power boost.
And you think that they wouldn't stoop to doing so? :lol:
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