It's so simple, fan service. It doesn't have to make sense but only to please fans.BlazingBarrrager wrote:Spoiler:It's incredibly annoying to keep seeing posts like these, especially the whole "each race should have a transformation" argument. Seriously, why does every race need a transformation skill when they got Kaio-Ken and Unlock Potential under their belts? I mean for Kami sakes our CaCs can overpower Kid Buu in their base form when Goku could only match it as a SSJ3. Only reason Saiyans got a transformation is because it's a racial trait to them. Granted I think they would be fine with just SSJ, but asking to give them SSJ3 and such?Zenkashuu wrote:For the same reason I read posts saying "SSJ3 for CaC don't make sense" in video games, when it's only be used as game feature.BlazingBarrrager wrote:Okay why do I keep seeing posts saying "Potential Unleashed" should be for Earthlings only? It's not something that only Earthlings can do so it shouldn't be exclusive to them like Kaio-Ken.
Anyway, here's my input on why other races don't need their own transformation.
Earthlings: They don't have anything to go by period outside of Kaio-Ken andd Unlock Potential, which is really all they need if an Earthling CaC is capable of matching a Super Saiyan. I mean look at Mr. Satan in XV. All he needed was a major power-up to become a major threat to the CaC, who could be a Super Saiyan 2 at that time.
Namekian: I would be totally fine if they got Great Namek, but obviously the game engine can't handle so many Giant Characters at once so that's out. Giving them a power-up like Super Namek would also be pointless because it's basically the same thing as Unlock Potential.
Freeza's Race: One major thing people like to forget is that our CaC isn't Freeza, who has been dubbed a mutant among his race. We don't have that kind of power nor do we need it, and Unlock Potential is the same thing as unlocking "Ultimate Evolution," which again should only be exclusive to Freeza due to him being a prodigy. Likewise, acting like our CaCs have a restrained transformation is stupid since our CaCs have no problem controlling our power unlike Freeza and King Cold.
Majins: Again, our CaC isn't a main character (in this case Buu) so giving them transformations would be stupid. Yes DBO gave them the "Pure Majin" transformation, but I seriously doubt that you can fit that into a game like XV. They also don't possess the same abilities as Buu because their power waned over time with constant division of the race to increase their numbers.
So yeah...the other races don't need their own transformations when they can do fine in their base form and have access to power-ups like Kaio-Ken and Unlock Potential.
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It's so simple, fan service. It doesn't have to make sense but only to please fans.BlazingBarrrager wrote:Spoiler:
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Give us another original villain again. No Demigra since he is old news now and I don't want any more rehashes.
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Why would Demigra come back? He's dead.Hellspawn28 wrote:Give us another original villain again. No Demigra since he is old news now and I don't want any more rehashes.
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Actually it more has to do with fairness and balancing. Kaioken was a completely useless ability and Potential Unleashed only held the greatest benefit to Earthlings since they could sustain it indefinitely. Since no one else has a ki recovery rate significant enough to help with it and attacks still drain ki when using supers and ultimates, anyone who isn't an Earthling will lose the form and be defenseless rather quickly. Ultimately I found my non-Earthing alts did far better without PU or KK.Zenkashuu wrote:It's so simple, fan service. It doesn't have to make sense but only to please fans.
Thing is, we know Frost Demons can transform. We know Namekians can merge to become Super Namekians. And we know a Majin can absorb things to transform and become stronger. Look at the Budokai games. When as Piccolo, after unlocking story aspects, Piccolo could "transform" with first Nail Merge and then Fusion with Kami. He had upgraded forms as opposed to just different move sets or a single moveset.
I don't imagine playing a Majin will have you eating people. I like more the idea of just them tapping the same dark well of mystic power that Kid Buu was drawing on and using that for their "transformation". It doesn't need a physical change besides, maybe, a dark aura and glowing red eyes.
Considering Freeza came back, it wouldn't be surprising. Thing is, they could bring Demigra back and make it into something epic. Think about it. He was destroyed in the Crack of Time, which is partially connected to all points in history across the whole of time and space. Far as we know, Demigra did not end up in Otherworld or Hell when he died. And the DLC has his magic going haywire and affecting other, completely separate continuities. You could easily say that his magic and the essence of his soul had been shattered and scattered across the whole of time and space, and that these Fragments of the Demon God could corrupt or possess others, perhaps even unconsciously seek to return themselves to a singular body.Shinnin wrote:Why would Demigra come back? He's dead.
Or these fragments, trapped in some manner, may be found by Towa and her Time Breakers. And maybe she uses the remnants of Demigra's power and soul in order to make Mira and her minions even stronger and causing greater distortions in history. There is so much potential for this kind of story line. We don't always need a new villain when we still have great ones that could be expanded upon in new and interesting ways.
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Kaio-Ken was NOT useless. It just wasn't something you can slap on a CaC and expect to use to its full potential. As for Earthlings and Unlock Potential, if Dimps has been paying attention than in XV2 Earthlings will get nerfed. Their auto-regen is too broken to keep the same in the sequel and they have too good of a stat distribution. Besides, maintaining Unlock Potential isn't that hard for any race to do since it refills your ki like normal. Earthlings just make using the skill completely broken. Either way, it's not something that should be restricted to Earthlings since that goes against the entire concept of the power up.Zelvin wrote:Actually it more has to do with fairness and balancing. Kaioken was a completely useless ability and Potential Unleashed only held the greatest benefit to Earthlings since they could sustain it indefinitely. Since no one else has a ki recovery rate significant enough to help with it and attacks still drain ki when using supers and ultimates, anyone who isn't an Earthling will lose the form and be defenseless rather quickly. Ultimately I found my non-Earthing alts did far better without PU or KK.Zenkashuu wrote:It's so simple, fan service. It doesn't have to make sense but only to please fans.
Thing is, we know Frost Demons can transform. We know Namekians can merge to become Super Namekians. And we know a Majin can absorb things to transform and become stronger. Look at the Budokai games. When as Piccolo, after unlocking story aspects, Piccolo could "transform" with first Nail Merge and then Fusion with Kami. He had upgraded forms as opposed to just different move sets or a single moveset.
I don't imagine playing a Majin will have you eating people. I like more the idea of just them tapping the same dark well of mystic power that Kid Buu was drawing on and using that for their "transformation". It doesn't need a physical change besides, maybe, a dark aura and glowing red eyes.
Again, the "transformations" could only apply to King Cold and Freeza because they were mutants due to their incredible power level. For all we know, the rest of the race don't need such transformations even the CaC. As for Namekians becoming a "Super Namek" I don't think simply merging with another Namekian makes you a "Super" one. King Piccolo and Kami were considered a Super Namek before they split so Piccolo was a Super Namek to begin with. For all we know, our CaC is already a Super Namek and simply gets even stronger with Unlock Potential (which, again, isn't hard to maintain). As for the Majins the ability to absorb other beings was probably lost due to their power waning over time. For all we know, eating/absorbing another person as a cookie or piece of candy would have no impact on the Majin's power in question. Besides, doing such an act is probably not something a good Majin will do.
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Unless you were an Earthling, Kaioken was useless. And once you had Potential Unleashed, kaioken became more useless.BlazingBarrrager wrote: *snippet*
And by your logic, only Goku and Vegeta's families can become Super Saiyans because they're the only ones "Special" enough by virtue of being canon to possess those transformations. So let's just strip all SSJ forms from the next game and stick just to PU to blanket everyone. But oh wait, if you take away the one thing that differentiates Saiyans from Earthlings, there's no reason to have Saiyans is there? Welp, better drop them from the next game since the Player and people purchasing the game aren't special enough to become Super Saiyans.
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*facepalm* Did you even bother trying out the other classes before coming up with that conclusion, because it sounds like you haven't.Zelvin wrote:Unless you were an Earthling, Kaioken was useless. And once you had Potential Unleashed, kaioken became more useless.BlazingBarrrager wrote: *snippet*
And by your logic, only Goku and Vegeta's families can become Super Saiyans because they're the only ones "Special" enough by virtue of being canon to possess those transformations. So let's just strip all SSJ forms from the next game and stick just to PU to blanket everyone. But oh wait, if you take away the one thing that differentiates Saiyans from Earthlings, there's no reason to have Saiyans is there? Welp, better drop them from the next game since the Player and people purchasing the game aren't special enough to become Super Saiyans.
And no that's not how my logic went. Any Saiyan can become a Super Saiyan. It's a racial ability that simply has hefty requirements, but if a Saiyan meets those requirements than they can achieve SSJ. Super Namek is more of a title than an actual form that is given to Namekians that possess incredible power. So yeah it's not about being "special" it's about looking at every race as a whole.
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Also don't have drops tie to RNG make it something like "Beat Vegtea with a Spirt bomb and you will get the Garlic gun"
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You know what else I want? Better AI for your CPU teammates so they can actually help instead of being horrible meat shields.
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Super will likely be a big focus in XV2. I can see Bluma's boat being a stage in XV2. I also going to bet that Champa will one of the first characters announced for XV2.
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Well it will probably depend on how far into Super we actually get to before Dimps (if they're the ones making the sequel) and Bandai consider using the content from Super.Hellspawn28 wrote:Super will likely be a big focus in XV2. I can see Bluma's boat being a stage in XV2. I also going to bet that Champa will one of the first characters announced for XV2.
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Well, Toriyama has already come up with a basic outline for the plot of the Universe 6 arc and is still designing characters for that arc, and I'm guessing that Xenoverse will come out either late 2016 at the earliest or early the 2017 at the latest, and by that that the Universe 6 arc will have either be deep into story or will have ended and Super will be well underway in a new arc.BlazingBarrrager wrote:Well it will probably depend on how far into Super we actually get to before Dimps (if they're the ones making the sequel) and Bandai consider using the content from Super.Hellspawn28 wrote:Super will likely be a big focus in XV2. I can see Bluma's boat being a stage in XV2. I also going to bet that Champa will one of the first characters announced for XV2.
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By early 2017, they would be pretty far into Super. So I think they will have enough story to work with in XV2. I can't see them not doing Super for XV2 when it's a brand new show.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9xYAKBPO28
I will like to see the ability to edit clothing attributes.
I will like to see the ability to edit clothing attributes.
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We have yet to see the "brand new show" though.Hellspawn28 wrote:I can't see them not doing Super for XV2 when it's a brand new show.
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How about no clothing stats period? That way you can dress your character however you want.kidhero1000 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9xYAKBPO28
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While were at it, how bout the races dont start with different stats. No more male Saiyans having highest base attack or Namekians having the highest health. Each race is a clean slate at the start and their stats are how you decide them to be. Give each race a single unique trait sure like we have now but the different starting stats needs to go.BlazingBarrrager wrote:How about no clothing stats period? That way you can dress your character however you want.kidhero1000 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9xYAKBPO28
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Original Dragon Ball Story, why do no games ever use that? It is a better story and there are plenty of fights for missions. I guess I'm just really salty that there wasn't any Dragon Ball DLC, but there was GT dlc.
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This actually was an original story. The game was basically one big "what-if" As for the original Dragonball, an NPC Time Patroller was taking care of that era already so...yeah.mario0102 wrote:Original Dragon Ball Story, why do no games ever use that? It is a better story and there are plenty of fights for missions. I guess I'm just really salty that there wasn't any Dragon Ball DLC, but there was GT dlc.
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I still can't see them skipping Super for XV2 when it will be airing or done airing by the time when XV2 comes out.
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