Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2

[Polyphase Avatron]

People find the match up interesting, nothing wrong with that. I know I've seen YouTube videos and forums all talking about this feat today. Doesn't surprise me.

What's there to talk about really? I mean, it completely flies in the face of any kind of science or physics, so it's not like you can really analyze it from that perspective. It's just another one of the many things that can be thrown around in these debates that never go anywhere.

[Lord Beerus]

The last thing we need is another video... I'm getting the feeling I could come back 20 years from now and find "Goku vs. Superman, part 37" on ScrewAttack.

Give it a rest, people.

Yeah, I think at this stage we should just move on. Supes can't handle Goku now anyway.

[Bullza]

It's always going to be a never ending discussion just like Superman vs Batman and Superman vs Hulk except this one is more discussed because the Anime fanbase tend to side with Goku and the comic fanbase side with Superman. There's just as many people who think Goku would win as those who think Superman would win.

These Screwattack videos did make a lot of people see differently.

The first video came out Goku lost, BoG came out and the DBZ fans were saying how he could beat Superman now.

The second video came out and Goku lost again, now there's this latest episode and people are again saying how he can destroy the Universe and how he could beat Superman now.

And so it starts all over again because Goku fans feel like they're on the losing side of the argument now and so they wait for something like what's happened in this new episode so they can then say "well Goku can do this so he can beat Superman".

[Polyphase Avatron]

It's always going to be a never ending discussion just like Superman vs Batman and Superman vs Hulk except this one is more discussed because the Anime fanbase tend to side with Goku and the comic fanbase side with Superman. There's just as many people who think Goku would win as those who think Superman would win.

These Screwattack videos did make a lot of people see differently.

The first video came out Goku lost, BoG came out and the DBZ fans were saying how he could beat Superman now.

The second video came out and Goku lost again, now there's this latest episode and people are again saying how he can destroy the Universe and how he could beat Superman now.

And so it starts all over again because Goku fans feel like they're on the losing side of the argument now and so they wait for something like what's happened in this new episode so they can then say "well Goku can do this so he can beat Superman".

And then Superman fans will quote some crazy thing Superman did in one issue or another and say "Superman can do this so he can beat Goku" and it will never end.

[voltlunok]

It's always going to be a never ending discussion just like Superman vs Batman and Superman vs Hulk except this one is more discussed because the Anime fanbase tend to side with Goku and the comic fanbase side with Superman. There's just as many people who think Goku would win as those who think Superman would win.

These Screwattack videos did make a lot of people see differently.

The first video came out Goku lost, BoG came out and the DBZ fans were saying how he could beat Superman now.

The second video came out and Goku lost again, now there's this latest episode and people are again saying how he can destroy the Universe and how he could beat Superman now.

And so it starts all over again because Goku fans feel like they're on the losing side of the argument now and so they wait for something like what's happened in this new episode so they can then say "well Goku can do this so he can beat Superman".

And then Superman fans will quote some crazy thing Superman did in one issue or another and say "Superman can do this so he can beat Goku" and it will never end.

Or worse, Goku gets to the point where Pre-Crisis Supes is a completely viable opponent. This argument will continue to escalate and escalate so long as the two have new material being created. But not only that, it will never end because even if someone sits down and does all the math and all the science and determines a winner, the loser's more bias fans will call BS and say they have an agenda against X thing.

[rereboy]

Or worse, Goku gets to the point where Pre-Crisis Supes is a completely viable opponent. This argument will continue to escalate and escalate so long as the two have new material being created. But not only that, it will never end because even if someone sits down and does all the math and all the science and determines a winner, the loser's more bias fans will call BS and say they have an agenda against X thing.

This discussion was ended a long time ago when people stated that Superman has lots of versions of himself, due to how long he was existed, all the different writers, and even all the retcons, and that, even though Goku can surely beat a number of those versions, there are a number of versions of Superman that Goku can't beat because they have absolutely ridiculous feats.

So, we either face Goku against a very particular version of Superman and decide just regarding that version, or we face Goku against Superman as a single character that engulfs all those versions, which will include the feats that Goku can't touch.

The debate keeps going simply because people fail to acknowledge this due to their own partiality on the subject.

[Bullza]

And then Superman fans will quote some crazy thing Superman did in one issue or another and say "Superman can do this so he can beat Goku" and it will never end.

Then in Super, Goku will get a new form which is so powerful that he can defeat Whis with one blow and it starts all over. It'll just keep going around in circles while there's new material and then continue even after that.

The subject would have died off some after the first Death Battle had Battle of Gods not come out. It's the way it was all timed that's made it an even more widespread discussion.

[Polyphase Avatron]

And then Superman fans will quote some crazy thing Superman did in one issue or another and say "Superman can do this so he can beat Goku" and it will never end.

Then in Super, Goku will get a new form which is so powerful that he can defeat Whis with one blow and it starts all over. It'll just keep going around in circles while there's new material and then continue even after that.

The subject would have died off some after the first Death Battle had Battle of Gods not come out. It's the way it was all timed that's made it an even more widespread discussion.

That was my point. As long as new material is being made and both characters remain popular, this will go on pointlessly forever.

[Bullza]

Well they're all pointless discussions on which fictional character could beat the other in a fight but it's just fun to talk about them anyway. Their powers are changing so at least changes opinions and arguments over time.

[pacz360]

Well they're all pointless discussions on which fictional character could beat the other in a fight but it's just fun to talk about them anyway. Their powers are changing so at least changes opinions and arguments over time.

True but considering this goku and superman it ain't really fun it's something that will never end and it's a pain in the ass in the process cause at the end of the day both sides won't relent on who stronger than who.

[ekrolo2]

Its beautiful just to have true evidence of how far the hypocrisy in favor of Goku goes. Superman remains a shit over powered character yet Goku's amazing for having a more over powered feat than Silver Age Superman's solar system sneeze in the eyes of the fans outside Kanzenshuu.

[singsing]

Its beautiful just to have true evidence of how far the hypocrisy in favor of Goku goes. Superman remains a shit over powered character yet Goku's amazing for having a more over powered feat than Silver Age Superman's solar system sneeze in the eyes of the fans outside Kanzenshuu.

Because SA Superman would pull out his "better than universe-busting punch" superpower and win.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Its beautiful just to have true evidence of how far the hypocrisy in favor of Goku goes. Superman remains a shit over powered character yet Goku's amazing for having a more over powered feat than Silver Age Superman's solar system sneeze in the eyes of the fans outside Kanzenshuu.

Because SA Superman would pull out his "better than universe-busting punch" superpower and win.

Actually, he did that in the Bronze Age when he was weaker than the Silver Age, or so I hear...

[Blackstripe]

Its beautiful just to have true evidence of how far the hypocrisy in favor of Goku goes. Superman remains a shit over powered character yet Goku's amazing for having a more over powered feat than Silver Age Superman's solar system sneeze in the eyes of the fans outside Kanzenshuu.

Because SA Superman would pull out his "better than universe-busting punch" superpower and win.

He would use his Kryptonian super science to make himself completely immune to universe-busting punches.

[The Monkey King]

As of right now Goku God stomps (pun kinda intended) both N52 and Post-Crisis Superman at the same time.
Seriously one punch and they're dust.

[rereboy]

As of right now Goku God stomps (pun kinda intended) both N52 and Post-Crisis Superman at the same time.
Seriously one punch and they're dust.

I hardly think that being able to cause shock waves that travel the universe without actually destroying anything, not even the average human in close proximity to the origin, is indicative of more power and resistance than lifting infinite weight or bench-pressing the Earth for days without sustenance of any kind, not even sunlight.

[The Monkey King]

As of right now Goku God stomps (pun kinda intended) both N52 and Post-Crisis Superman at the same time.
Seriously one punch and they're dust.

I hardly think that being able to cause shock waves that travel the universe without actually destroying anything, not even the average human in close proximity to the origin, is indicative of more power and resistance than lifting infinite weight or bench-pressing the Earth for days without sustenance of any kind, not even sunlight.

The shockwaves vaporised planets and destroyed stars all throughout the universe.
With a few punches Goku and Beerus would've destroyed the entire universe if it wasn't for Goku's technique.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, watch the episode please.

Also Superman is large planet level in both strength and DC. The 'infinite pages' was horribly taken out of context and makes all Superman stories make no sense.

Goku vs Superman is currently a mismatch, Goku kills him with ease.

[rereboy]

The shockwaves vaporised planets and destroyed stars all throughout the universe.
With a few punches Goku and Beerus would've destroyed the entire universe if it wasn't for Goku's technique.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, watch the episode please.

I only read the manga where there's no apparent real destruction, just a threat. I'll have to see the episode, then.

Also Superman is large planet level in both strength and DC. The 'infinite pages' was horribly taken out of context and makes all Superman stories make no sense.

Sorry, but that's not how it works. It was not a gag scene, it was a legitimate and intentional feat. I could just as well argue that Goku's feat "was horribly taken out of context" and "makes no sense" since it can apparently destroy planets far away but it can't harm average humans in close proximity to the battle. There's no more clear sign of partially in this subject than trying to ignore or invalidate feats of just one character.

[Doctor.]

I could just as well argue that Goku's feat "was horribly taken out of context" and "makes no sense" since it can apparently destroy planets far away but it can't harm average humans in close proximity to the battle. There's no more clear sign of partially in this subject than trying to ignore or invalidate feats of just one character.

You can't though, since that was explained in the episode. Goku was nullifying Beerus' attacks and that effect decreased the further the shockwaves went, hence why there was such low damage close to the point of origin, and high damage far away.

[pacz360]

Current goku pretty much slaughters n52/post crisis supes there's still guys pre crisis supes and one million that could beat him