soulnova wrote:I havent watched it but I believe Naruto is nearing the ending.
Not any time soon. Naruto Shippuuden's next two cours will be focused on an original story arc before switching back to the main storyline of Team 7 versus Kaguya.
...The Infinite Tsukuyomi filler is going to last for another 6 months? Oh goddammit Pierrot.
I thought the lack of Gaiden characters in the newest opening was suspicious, but I was hoping they wouldn't go that far with the filler.
This article seems to be making a big deal out of the 4.7 rating. They act like the "masterpiece" of Dragon Ball might be doomed, but also seem to ignore that Dragon Ball wasn't the only series to take a hit.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
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TheDevilsCorpse wrote:This article seems to be making a big deal out of the 4.7 rating. They act like the "masterpiece" of Dragon Ball might be doomed, but also seem to ignore that Dragon Ball wasn't the only series to take a hit.
Plus, if the toy sales are good, and I mean really good, the TV ratings won't be that significant.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Super TV ratings are nothing to be proud of. And here I was thinking that the ratings would improve when we reached the climax, but nop. 4.7 is really embarassing.
But its Toei own fault for shooting in their own foot.
I'm enjoying Super BOG arc more than the Movie version, but I could perfectly live without it. Fans want new content and they blew it.
There was a lot of discussion here back then, about where Super would take place. Some (me included) said after EOZ and others after ROF. Those were the only valid options.
And then Toei surprised everyone with this bad choice.
I really hope Universe 6 arc is not the only new content we get. Even GT had 4 arcs. And all of them had new content by the way...
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
I agree; everyone thought it'd either be after F, after EoZ, and then as it got closer people started to think it would be post-Buu but before BOG. I don't remember anyone guessing they would do TV versions of BOG and F either. I remember hoping it would pick up where F left off (which is why I'm still anxious for Uni 6).
I also keep hoping the risk they took in starting where they started doesn't tank the series before Uni 6 even gets a chance to start.
They didn't even planned things well. Super ROF arc will begin shortly after ROF Movie home video release comes out.
Is this trolling?! Obviously one of these will be affected by the other.
Worse than retelling something from 2 years ago, is retelling something that was released weeks before.
I can't blame the japanese fanbase for choose one version and ignore the other.
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A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
FortuneSSJ wrote:They didn't even planned things well. Super ROF arc will begin shortly after ROF Movie home video release comes out.
Is this trolling?! Obviously one of these will be affected by the other.
I can't blame the japanese fanbase for choose one version and ignore the other.
Doesn't the ROF arc start from episode 19?. That would be around late November, so i don't see how it can effect anything.
Well it was Silver Week when Episode 11 aired so I can maybe see why that affected that episodes ratings but the holiday should have been over before Episode 12 so I don't know why that's low.
One Piece was down a little as well. That series used to be over 9.0 all the time but more and more I'm seeing it with below an 8.0 so perhaps anime on TV is dying.
It could do with getting above a 6.0 soon though. I'll see how the next episode does before I start to get worried. They might drop but as long as it isn't cancelled which is very unlikely it's gotta see a boost once the retellings are over.
FortuneSSJ wrote:BOG Movie was released in 2013 and is affecting Super in 2015.
If we go by that logic then ROF was realeased in 2014 and will probably affect super as well. I was just saying that I don't think Toei did not know about the home release.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:This article seems to be making a big deal out of the 4.7 rating. They act like the "masterpiece" of Dragon Ball might be doomed, but also seem to ignore that Dragon Ball wasn't the only series to take a hit.
Isn't that a blog? It's the same yahoo user who made a big deal out of episode 5. He seems to love to take shots against Dragon Ball.
Anyway, what he's doing is taking things out of context, ignoring that everything went down too, which is the reason why its place in the live ratings ranking rarely changes.
Bullza wrote:One Piece was down a little as well. That series used to be over 9.0 all the time but more and more I'm seeing it with below an 8.0 so perhaps anime on TV is dying.
It's not that it's dying, but ratings seems to be getting a bit lower every year. People keep watching them, but by other means. DVR, streamings, piracy.
I am not saying retelling the movies is not part of a drop in ratings, but having it in an early slot must also have a lot to do with it. Adults, who would watch this series no doubt, probably aren't so prone to wake up early during the weekend just to watch an episode. Move it to noon, or evening, and ratings will no doubt rise, if only a little bit.
FortuneSSJ wrote:Super TV ratings are nothing to be proud of. And here I was thinking that the ratings would improve when we reached the climax, but nop. 4.7 is really embarassing.
But its Toei own fault for shooting in their own foot.
I'm enjoying Super BOG arc more than the Movie version, but I could perfectly live without it. Fans want new content and they blew it.
There was a lot of discussion here back then, about where Super would take place. Some (me included) said after EOZ and others after ROF. Those were the only valid options.
And then Toei surprised everyone with this bad choice.
I really hope Universe 6 arc is not the only new content we get. Even GT had 4 arcs. And all of them had new content by the way...
Why all the drama? We know ratings don't mean anything, is it really necessary to keep being "disappointed" with them? Super being in the Top 10 is impressive enough because hundreds of series don't even get there.
Toei didn't shoot themselves in the foot, there's no evidence for that. Things are what they are. Even if they didn't plan things thoroughly, they did have to plan something. They are a business, not amateurs.
Toei doesn't drag out series that they're not gonna milk the sh*** out of. DB and DBGT were pretty well paced, because no one knew how long they'd last. They knew DBZ was there to stay, so they dragged it out beyond reason.
DragonHermit wrote:Toei doesn't drag out series that they're not gonna milk the sh*** out of. DB and DBGT were pretty well paced, because no one knew how long they'd last. They knew DBZ was there to stay, so they dragged it out beyond reason.
The first DB anime being well-paced is...debatable, I think. It's not as obnoxious about it as Z, but they still adapted 194 (~14-page) manga chapters across 148 episodes, with fairly little in the way of stand-alone filler episodes. That's an average of about 18 manga pages per episode, which is comparable to the current pacing of the One Piece anime (which the majority of people I've seen agree is pretty bad on that front).
Bullza wrote:Dragon Ball averaged 9.5 episodes per volume and Dragon Ball Z averaged 11.2 episodes per volume. Kai averaged only 6.1 episodes per volume.
The original Dragon Ball's filler was absolutely terrible though so it didn't feel as dragged out to me as what did Z.
Super is definitley more fast paced than DB or DBZ it just might not feel that way at times because it's stuff we knew about already.
