Why weren't King Piccolo's off-springs Nameks?

[precita]

Ignoring the real-world reason that Toriyama hadn't created the Namek race yet, why were King Piccolo's off springs a bunch of demons instead of a bunch of Namek's?

We've never seen any other Namek create creatures like Tambourine, Piano, Drum, etc. Why do they look the way they do and why is only King Piccolo able to make them?

[sayian_nation_]

Good question! Can't really answer that but maybe it has something to do with him being evil? Dragonball portrayed him as a demon which is why anyone who is killed by him get stuck in "limbo" instead of being sent to heaven. WIKI has him as a "Dark Namekian" could be something to do with it but I don't usually go off that site lol.

[Hellspawn28]

Evil nameks could create their own monsters of their own most likely.

[nickzambuto]

King Piccolo was a mutant. Not only was he a being of pure evil among a race of pure heart, but he was also only half a being in the first place. His kids were basically inverse inbreds, because he made them himself.

[Sandubadear]

Apparently Piccolo can choose how his children will look like. He makes Cymbal look like a dragon because he will be hunting Dragon Balls. My guess is that he just wanted to make random demons for his demon clan, and didn't want anyone similar to him (since he is the demon king, another one similar to him would look bad) but then he made Piccolo Jr. look like him because he was going to reincarnate.

[Dbzfan94]

Because the Namek race wasn't a thing back then

[Cipher]

In-universe: He's an actual demon -- a being of pure evil. I guess that lets him create monstrous offspring.

[Kaboom]

I'm pretty sure one or two of the guidebooks point out that King Piccolo's egg-laying was a corrupted version of what Namekians normally do. So maybe his evil nature prevented him from birthing anything but lesser demon-spawn unless he actually put all his life-force into it, or something like that.

[Tyro]

Daizenshuu #4 lists Piccolo Daimao's demons under the Namekian category, so they seem to be at least partially Namekian.

NAMEKIAN

A people of the universe whose existence was revealed through the arrival of Piccolo Daimao. There exist the two "Dragon Clan" and "warrior-type" varieties, as well as the "Demon Clan" who split off due to their hearts being stained with evil.

Namekians: The Eldest, Nail, Muri, Dende, Cargo, Ma Junior (Piccolo), God, Piccolo, Piano, Drum, Tambourine, Cymbal, Piccolo Daimao

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Shouldn´t this be on the In-Universe discussion ?

[FoolsGil]

Because Namek wasn't a thing when King Piccolo was being called a demon.

[Cipher]

Because Namek wasn't a thing when King Piccolo was being called a demon.

He is a demon. He's a Namekian demon.

[Herms]

Apparently Piccolo can choose how his children will look like. He makes Cymbal look like a dragon because he will be hunting Dragon Balls. My guess is that he just wanted to make random demons for his demon clan, and didn't want anyone similar to him (since he is the demon king, another one similar to him would look bad) but then he made Piccolo Jr. look like him because he was going to reincarnate.

This is probably the key factor: Piccolo could fully customize his own Namekians however he saw fit, years before DB Online. Though I guess we don't know for sure if this is only something he could do because of the whole born-from-evil thing, or if regular Namekians could pull it off as well. Maybe what we think of as a "regular" Namekian is simply the result of the Great Elder being very unimaginative.

[SylentEcho]

Because Namek wasn't a thing when King Piccolo was being called a demon.

He is a demon. He's a Namekian demon.

I never fully understood this. His backstory was retconned in the Saiyan arc, yet for some reason all of his victims before that never went to the afterlife. Raditz was the only one up until that point whose soul went to Enma and I don't understand that either.

How exactly is he a demonic Namekian?

[Ookalf]

Because Namek wasn't a thing when King Piccolo was being called a demon.

He is a demon. He's a Namekian demon.

I never fully understood this. His backstory was retconned in the Saiyan arc, yet for some reason all of his victims before that never went to the afterlife. Raditz was the only one up until that point whose soul went to Enma and I don't understand that either.

How exactly is he a demonic Namekian?

Because he's a man's evil given flesh. Seems pretty demonic to me.

[singsing]

Because Namek wasn't a thing when King Piccolo was being called a demon.

He is a demon. He's a Namekian demon.

I never fully understood this. His backstory was retconned in the Saiyan arc, yet for some reason all of his victims before that never went to the afterlife. Raditz was the only one up until that point whose soul went to Enma and I don't understand that either.

How exactly is he a demonic Namekian?

They specified in the Saiyan arc that Piccolo was no longer a demon by the time he fought Raditz with Goku.

[Kuririn Fan]

Because they weren't Nameks at that point, they were demons.

[DragonBallLove]

In-Universe? Evil-Corrupted Poko Priest Demon Clan Namek.
Out-Of-Universe? He was a demonic monster originally. Nameks didn't exist at that point.

[Pantalones]

Well, Tambourine and Drum at least could mostly pass for Namekians, albeit really weird-looking Namekians, especially with Tambourine having wings. I've always considered them to be mutated demon Nameks who basically "came out wrong" due to Piccolo Daimao's "Demon Clan" status, with Piccolo Jr. being his first "pure Namekian" offspring (though he still counted as a demon at first due to having the reincarnated pure-evil soul of his dad, and that didn't change until he grew up and developed his own personality a bit more.)

The dragon/dinosaur-like traits of the others (and Tambourine's wings) are a bit weird, and that (along with the way that they're already adult sized when they hatch) is probably the result of Piccolo tampering with their traits before spitting up their eggs. That's probably what the purpose of the chant and such he does before spitting them up is -- he's basically combining Namekian reproduction with some demon technique to create fully-formed mutant demon babies rather than normal infant Namekians.

Though, if you go by Online and Xenoverse's character-creation options, there's actually a bit more variety to the possibilities of Namekian appearance than what we've seen previously -- their antennae can sometimes be more like horns or crests instead, some have lighter colored patches on their face, etc. -- so it's possible that Namekians with more unusual traits like Piccolo's spawn could have existed in the distant past before the crisis that dropped the population of Namek to almost zero happened. Those features could've been more common if present Namek's population wasn't all descended from the same guy like they are.

[Tyro]

It's a rather off-topic discussion, but does anyone find themselves thinking that the term "Nameks" sounds oddly racist? It's "Namekian(s)", people.