Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by ABED » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:08 pm

Bash is a strong word, I've barely commented on it beyond saying that what I've heard, I haven't liked.

Who is Bait4State and why should I care what he says?
He sounds like a human being but i think the actual performance is good otherwise
You keep spouting this, but it makes no sense. What should they sound like? Is your entire idea of what Namekians sound like based on one character and one actor's performance?
What does a 50 year old sound like to you?
Like a man that has some years on him but still has a lot of energy. Keep in mind that Tom Cruise is over 50. That's not that old.
If the Ocean clip of Guru unlocking their potential didnt get taken down i would show it to you and prove you wrong
You wouldn't. I remember that scene and that actor doesn't sound that old at all. He sounds like a young grandfather, but not all that old.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by Ree » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:59 pm

You cared enough to say its like a "grade school play" and did not give it much of a chance

The guy who made the Sean vs Peter vid i mentioned earlier. You should probably care because he actually gave Sean a fair chance and watched all the series he was in.

I'm open minded to different interpretations but they should at least have some quality to stand them out from humans.
You can listen to any item based pokemon for examples
What is Jigglypuff based on? Balloon
What sound does a balloon make? Squelching
A human does the voice but she fits the visual
Get it now?


Then why take offense when i say he sounds fifty?

You left out the part where I said there is no warmth or wisdom. and he does sound older.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by ABED » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:28 am

Well, nothing I've heard has disuaded me from that opinion, and I don't care that much about to justify watching more. I'm happy watching the JPN version.
The guy who made the Sean vs Peter vid i mentioned earlier. You should probably care because he actually gave Sean a fair chance and watched all the series he was in.
Again, it's one guy's opinion on the matter. I like Sean, I've heard opposing views, another one won't persuade me.
I'm open minded to different interpretations but they should at least have some quality to stand them out from humans.
No you aren't. Your own words contradict this statement. The young Namekians sound like young kids, the older Namekians sound like older men, both of which you are fine with. Hell, even King Piccolo sounds human just with a gravelly delivery. The ONLY one that sounds like what you are referring to is Piccolo, and even he sounds human.
What is Jigglypuff based on? Balloon
Pokemon are animals, they aren't humanoid.
A human does the voice but she fits the visual
Yes, and he looks very human, not like a balloon. You are reaching for justifications. How about telling me what Namekians should sound like.
Then why take offense when i say he sounds fifty?
I didn't.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by Ree » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:49 am

You are one guy yourself. Why should we believe you over him when you are just another man on the internet?

and again that is not my only criteria for characters sounding good. I did not contradict anything.
Young kids do not have developed voices yet. Moori has a good performance so i can overlook that, Guru in Ocean has a amazing performance so he gets a pass from me. Piccolo isnt human sounding to me.


Mewtwo is humanoid, Hitmonchan is kind of one too.
Mewtwos voice in his movie appearance and even in Melee are voices i cannot imagine on humans

Jigglypuff looks human to you? Or did you mean Piccolo?
I did explain, there is really no one true voice just like actual races have no one true voices but they should at least sound not too much like normal people

You did, you complained that i was wrong, i wasn't justified, he is not 40-50, and so.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by ABED » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:01 pm

I'm only giving MY opinion. I'm not pointing to someone else as if they have some authority on the matter or as if using someone else's opinion makes it a fact, especially not some random kid on the net.
Young kids do not have developed voices yet
But they still sound like their own species, just younger. You are reaching.

Namekians are way more human in appearance than any Pokémon. Other than the green skin, antennae and ears, they look human.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by Ree » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:17 pm

I never said his opinion was fact but i would trust him over you simply because you admitted you did not watch Westwood.

You dont hear most of the traits associated with most races until later ages. A neighbor of mine speaks ghetto but as a kid he did not
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Post by ABED » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:24 pm

Ree wrote:I never said his opinion was fact but i would trust him over you simply because you admitted you did not watch Westwood.

You dont hear most of the traits associated with most races until later ages. A neighbor of mine speaks ghetto but as a kid he did not
I don't watch the westwood BECAUSE what I've heard, I haven't liked.

Huh? Ghetto isn't a race, and the kid still sounds human. Race is the unchosen characteristics like skin color and bone structure. You're thinking ethnicity which is cultural and is ultimately a choice.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by Ree » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:26 pm

You said you heard nothing of Peter in westwood though.

Maybe stereotype would be a better term? and of course we all sound human but I'm talking about voice differences from child to adult.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by ABED » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:29 pm

Ree wrote:You said you heard nothing of Peter in westwood though.

Maybe stereotype would be a better term? and of course we all sound human but I'm talking about voice differences from child to adult.
Peter Kelamis? No, I haven't but I heard him all the way through the Ocean dub. What's changed in that timeframe.

The difference between a child's voice and an adult is that kids voices are higher and maybe you might not be able to differentiate between the sexes for a few years, I don't know. I don't have kids, but it's certainly a matter of pitch. How does this at all apply to Namekians?
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by Ree » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:34 pm

All you need to watch is a few minutes to get an idea. You can just listen to it in the background and ignore the commentary.

Kids also have different inflections as they grow older.
You said Namekians are like humans so you answered your own question
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by ABED » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:36 pm

Ree wrote:All you need to watch is a few minutes to get an idea. You can just listen to it in the background and ignore the commentary.

Kids also have different inflections as they grow older.
You said Namekians are like humans so you answered your own question
None of this actually helps your point that Sabat's Piccolo sounds too human. Kids don't sound like a different species.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by Ree » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:50 pm

Never said they did, my point is that voices in general develop
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by ABED » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:53 pm

But they don't develop into a different sounding species. That's why i find your exceptions for the kids to be ridiculous. You've basically given nearly every character voice a pass except for Sabat. Only he has to sound like a Namekian.
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by UltimateHammerBro » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:03 pm

I'd swear that I saw this exact same conversation regarding whether Sabat should or shouldn't "sound" human around... I don't know, a month ago?
Am I suffering from déjà vu or are things just coming full circle?
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by ABED » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:14 pm

UltimateHammerBro wrote:I'd swear that I saw this exact same conversation regarding whether Sabat should or shouldn't "sound" human around... I don't know, a month ago?<br abp="685">Am I suffering from déjà vu or are things just coming full circle?
I brought it back around to this because Ree said something i found silly so I sarcastically wrote "Yeah, he doesn't sound Namekian enough".
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Re: Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

Post by UltimateHammerBro » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:48 pm

ABED wrote:I brought it back around to this because Ree said something i found silly so I sarcastically wrote "Yeah, he doesn't sound Namekian enough".
I see. It's full circle then.
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