Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

[TheWhiz]

It sounds like what happened is that they're using actors based in Vancouver ("the Ocean cast") for the bigger, more significant roles, and using actors based in Toronto ("the Blue Water cast") for the lesser roles. At what point a role becomes "lesser" is not entirely clear, though. I mean, sure, Yamcha isn't a huge part in the grand scheme of things, but on the other hand, Nappa has even less screen time, and we already know from a publicly-posted resume that his original Ocean voice, Michael Dobson, came back to play him.

So I dunno, I think there's still a good chance that Ted Cole will come back as Yamcha if they're defining Nappa as a significant role. Not a guarantee, of course. Yajirobe has, I believe, more screen time than Nappa, and Brian Drummond already said that while he got to play Vegeta again, they're using a Toronto actor for Yajirobe this time around. So, who knows?

........"So, who knows?" That should be the official slogan of this dub.

While Yamcha doesn't have a huge role in the show, at the same time, he has quite a bit of screen time. Especially during the Frieza arc when it cut back & forth to King Kai's planet during the Goku fight.

[Ree]

I'm aware of that and i think that's bull because Peter and Ian sound cooler than he does

[SX10]

Sorry I took so long to get back to this!

I see what you mean, Ted's 17 was pretty bad ass and it blows Huber's out of the water. But yeah, even though Yamcha doesn't get as much screen time as the others, he's still part of the main roster I guess, I can see a return for just that one character

SO --

I also have some further updates from my previous source.

Apparently, when he said the music would sound like something composed by those who work on DC shows, what came to his mind were Justice League (unsure which particular series, but they seem to have a similar vibe) & Teen Titans (in his words, "the actual good" version, haha). What gets me about that is, Teen Titans soundtracks sound a bit different to anything I found for Justice League. He realises that this may worry fans of the original score but urges everyone to give it a chance as it's apparently really well done. I'm guessing it's a grandiose, orchestral score. I'm okay with this.

In his words, Tockar's Freeza is, "interesting and well done".

He also has no idea if Ocean have acquired Buu Kai at all. Not heard a thing abut it.

Although! I did suggest he mention that we in the UK are interested in the dub. He said he'd let Ocean know we're itching to get it here,

Progress!

[Ree]

I love how he said "the actual good version" because Teen Titans Go sucks!
on topic: I hope brad Swaile will be adult Gohan

[SX10]

Haha! I know. The guy is awesome and clearly a fan as well as a participant. He watched all of season 1 of Kai before going in but also watched Z.

Also. Yes! Brad Swaile owns that role. If Ocean ever get Kai, he needs to return!

[Ree]

I agree, Brad is so far above Kyle its not funny.... well actually it kinda is

[ABED]

From what I've heard, Brad's fine, he's not so far above Kyle. They're on par.

[Ree]

i dont like Kyle because its too obvious he's an adult posing as a teenager but at least we agree Brad is the best

[ABED]

i dont like Kyle because its too obvious he's an adult posing as a teenager but at least we agree Brad is the best

Not what i agreed to at all, and Brad also sounds like an adult.

[Ree]

I misread your response sorry but thats my fault for not specifying I meant High School Gohan.
You did say " he's not so far above Kyle"
Keyword is "so".

[ABED]

I misread your response sorry but thats my fault for not specifying I meant High School Gohan.
You did say " he's not so far above Kyle"
Keyword is "so".

There's no key word, I was taking your words and disagreeing with them.

[Ree]

Your sentence implied hes only a little better as opposed to hes not better at all so thats why I thought you said the first one.
moving on, Brad Swaile as High school Gohan doesnt sound like an adult to me, he sounds like a young teenager. His voice is higher

[ABED]

Your sentence implied hes only a little better as opposed to hes not better at all so thats why I thought you said the first one.
moving on, Brad Swaile as High school Gohan doesnt sound like an adult to me, he sounds like a young teenager. His voice is higher

Even adults can have high voices. Some men have really high voices.

[Ree]

Well yeah but Brad also has better acting and he fits the character more.

[ABED]

Well yeah but Brad also has better acting and he fits the character more.

I've heard enough of the westwood dub to know that's not true. The acting suffered A LOT, even the great actors like McNeil were worse off.

How does Brad fit the character more?

[90sDBZ]

Well yeah but Brad also has better acting and he fits the character more.

I've heard enough of the westwood dub to know that's not true. The acting suffered A LOT, even the great actors like McNeil were worse off.

How does Brad fit the character more?

I'll second this. Brad's voice was fine for Gohan, but there were times when he overacted like when Vegeta was being possessed and Gohan shouts "Don't let them use you! You're stronger than they are!". And Kyle was more believable as serious/angry Gohan.

[NitroEX]

From what I've heard, Brad's fine, he's not so far above Kyle. They're on par.

Kyle might have some good moments here and there but to say he's on par with Brad Swaile is a huge stretch. I think he makes for a serviceable older Gohan (post Z material) but as a teenager I find his voice very unfitting. I honestly think he was miscast.

Admittedly there are some actors who can make an older voices work for a young character (especially if the character is wise or intimidating) but Kyle just doesn't sound convincingly young nor does he bring anything unique to the role. His delivery is usually pretty bland and the voice he uses for Gohan is mostly a generic dude-ish/cool guy voice which doesn't help convey the type of personality Gohan has, it just reminds me of a well spoken surfer or something along those lines. Gohan is mostly shown to be an awkward, humble teenager with an innocent heart. Yes, he can be badass at times but this is not the foundation of his character. Buu arc Gohan clearly has a lot of self doubt and at times can even be naive. Why should a character like that have a generic cool hero voice? It doesn't make sense... unless you're Funimation at the time who also thought it was a good idea to make Cell games Gohan sound "badass" by directing Stephanie Nadolny to sound as husky/raspy as possible.

Bottom line; if Kirby Morrow sounds "too cool" for Goku then I think it's fair to say that Kyle Herbert is "too cool" for Gohan. That's just my opinion.

[Ree]

I have to agree on the cool part. Well Kirby doesn't but Kyle does....
since everything i wanted to say was said except a lot better ill close off on this.
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dra ... 0904135822
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dra ... 0623121224

This is Brad Swaile's Gohan. just from looking at these two images you can get a good idea of his personality

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphot ... 0831_n.jpg

this is Kyle Hebert's Gohan. it looks amazing right? but you don't get much personality except OMGHOWCOOL
and since cool is subjective it falls flat

I'm not even going to start on Kid Gohan, Saffron is the one true voice for me, accept no substitutes.

[ABED]

Bottom line; if Kirby Morrow sounds "too cool" for Goku then I think it's fair to say that Kyle Herbert is "too cool" for Gohan. That's just my opinion.
You dont' have to explain Gohan's personality to me, I'm not sure where you get the idea that Hebert is "too cool" he doesn't play that note the entire time. He plays goofy, earnest, and warrior when he has to.

Kirby isn't too cool, he sounds like he's trying to sound cool. He's just overall really bland. Hebert's voice sticks out.

And Hebert's Gohan sounds nothing like a surfer.

The pictures of Gohan are dumb, they are just pictures of Gohan. It doesn't show his personality and you just leached off of Nitro because he knocked Hebert. Show me how badass Hebert made Gohan sound in those Saiyaman episodes.

[Ree]

When did Kirby try so hard to sound cool? give me one scene where he did it

I don't agree with the surfer thing either but i do the other stuff.

Yes i did leech. your point?

Pictures that show different expressions. i saw clips and from what i saw he did little to differentiate goofy Gohan to serious Gohan except altering the pitch of the voice slightly
The point of those pictures its that Brad had more range. Did you even look at them?