So... I'm making a TeamFourStar Dragonball Abridged DVD!

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:45 am

kaioken12 wrote:I understand the decision itself (and I wasn't waiting for this DVD or something, I am already pleased with the youtube eps xD), but - if I may ask this question: What is the reason for that?

I mean, which kind of law could be troublesome because of going to ISO?
Would this also go for let's say high quality AVI on CD or just for "real" DVDs?
Just being curious about it ^^

We're distributing THEIR FOOTAGE in a format would could thusly be burnt to DVD.

I'm reasonably sure you can piece together WHY FUNimation would be upset about that.

Sshadow5001 · Post by **Sshadow5001** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:43 pm

to be honest the quality of the MP4's off of youtube don't look that bad on a HDTV through a WII or a PS3 (componant or HDMI) so the cancelation isn't that bad really

I'm sure many of you could find other means of watching these episodes other than on a computer screen

if i can be bothered sometime i could just upload a MP4 and subtitle set if anyones actually interested

kaioken12 · Post by **kaioken12** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:55 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:
kaioken12 wrote:I understand the decision itself (and I wasn't waiting for this DVD or something, I am already pleased with the youtube eps xD), but - if I may ask this question: What is the reason for that?

I mean, which kind of law could be troublesome because of going to ISO?
Would this also go for let's say high quality AVI on CD or just for "real" DVDs?
Just being curious about it ^^
We're distributing THEIR FOOTAGE in a format would could thusly be burnt to DVD.

I'm reasonably sure you can piece together WHY FUNimation would be upset about that.

Yeah, true indeed.
But then again, like other people said, it's not that the youtube MP4s would have bad quality (so burning these to DVD or putting them together as AVI doesn't really seem any different to me).

Like I said, it's not that I'm bitching about it, I really respect your decision.
But perhaps I don't really get the logical thoughts behind that whole thing because I am not a lawyer xD
(The same thing goes for poor episode 1 that had to be taken down)

VeggieXD · Post by **VeggieXD** » Sat May 16, 2009 7:01 pm

I'm no lawyer but if someone in the UK were to upload the files to a UK server, FUNi can't touch them can they? Because it will be nearly impossible to check the origin of the footage, which means it could be from the Ocean Dub, which is not licensed over here any more. So you aren't really affecting the copyright are you? And users in America will be downloading it through third parties, which should bypass the copyright.

I'm unsure whether any of the above makes sense and/or is factually correct.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Sat May 16, 2009 8:04 pm

VeggieXD wrote:I'm no lawyer but if someone in the UK were to upload the files to a UK server, FUNi can't touch them can they? Because it will be nearly impossible to check the origin of the footage, which means it could be from the Ocean Dub, which is not licensed over here any more. So you aren't really affecting the copyright are you? And users in America will be downloading it through third parties, which should bypass the copyright.

I'm unsure whether any of the above makes sense and/or is factually correct.

Except that it is pretty obvious that the footage is from the season sets... Even if FUNi has no standing licenses in the UK, the footage is still owned by FUNi, so it's up to them how the footage is distributed worldwide. I'm no expert either, but from what I know, there are some holes in this plan, both legally and morally.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sat May 16, 2009 10:29 pm

Isn't this thing protected as parody therefore the DVD can be made?

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Sat May 16, 2009 11:06 pm

Rod wrote:Isn't this thing protected as parody therefore the DVD can be made?

Beat me to the punch. I fully agree, and since you're not gaining a profit... What's the problem?

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Sat May 16, 2009 11:14 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:
Rod wrote:Isn't this thing protected as parody therefore the DVD can be made?
Beat me to the punch. I fully agree, and since you're not gaining a profit... What's the problem?

The problem isn't that you're not making profit, its that FUNimation isn't from this. People can watch the footage for free on DVD without having to pay FUNi to buy them.

Sure, technically its not true, but that's FUNi's point of view.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sat May 16, 2009 11:18 pm

ShinRogafuken wrote:
SonGokuGT wrote:
Rod wrote:Isn't this thing protected as parody therefore the DVD can be made?
Beat me to the punch. I fully agree, and since you're not gaining a profit... What's the problem?
The problem isn't that you're not making profit, its that FUNimation isn't from this. People can watch the footage for free on DVD without having to pay FUNi to buy them.

Sure, technically its not true, but that's FUNi's point of view.

But it doesn't matter what FUNi thinks, they have to obey the law, and if the law allows it they can't allow it...but the system is crooked so

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Sat May 16, 2009 11:29 pm

FUNimation has the right to have TFS's videos removed from YouTube, by law. And since the great guys at TFS made this series for that purpose (being viewed, mainly one YouTube, and not for fan-made DVD releases), they're not going to jeopardize that for a minority of their fans. FUNi has agreed to let them post their videos on YouTube, but they wouldn't be OK with distributing DVD-ready versions, and would use that as reasoning to have the videos removed on YouTube. It's a trust agreement.

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So... I'm making a TeamFourStar Dragonball Abridged DVD!

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