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Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:02 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote:
Adamant wrote:
PsyLiam wrote: They had the same problem with General Blue too, remember. I don't know what they did on the TV version, but the dubbed DVD gives every indication of him being gay without actually coming out and saying it. Which seems to be allowable.
I believe they made Blue french in the dub. Because french people do gay stuff without being gay. Right..
Err... no... they made him speak overly properly and "gently" (with perhaps a touch of a British accent), which did give him an air of effeminate-ness... but he certainly wasn't French.

It wasn't? Eh, what do I know about accents anyway?
Never watched the dub much either. At least they turned him into "person-who-can-do-gay-stuff-without-being-gay"

Post by **TripleRach** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:38 pm

As for the original topic, Kyle Hebert mentioned on his site a rumor that Tom Welling is supposedly being considered for Gokuu. He plays a decent Clark Kent, and Superman and Gokuu do in fact have a few things in common, but I just can't picture him as Gokuu. But that's probably nothing more than a rumor, and I have serious doubts that this movie will ever even be made.

(I hope this doesn't start another Superman vs Gokuu debate...)

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:51 pm

Adamant wrote: It wasn't? Eh, what do I know about accents anyway?

I know that Americans get British and Australian accents mixed up, and I can (sorta) understand that. But British and French?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:17 pm

How do you mix up British and Australian accents, let alone ANY language with FRENCH?!

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:37 pm

I'm not sure, but Americans seem to do it. Hey, look at poor Jeice. He started off sounding like one of the Beatles, and ended up as a resident of Sidney.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:44 pm

Hey I remember thinking that too!

We went from Scott McNeil doing "Ringo" (or was it "John Lennon" more? hmmmm), to Chris Sabat doing "Steve Irwin"!

It just goes to show the amount of talent and skill McNeil has in comparison with Sabat.

By the way, I don't know why, but I found that whenever Americans want to imitate an Aussie accent, they go around saying "rack-off" every second word. Strange.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:22 pm

I tend to go for "G'day", or "dag", myself.

It wasn't overly close to any of the Beatles to be honest, but it was a stereotypical Scouse accent. Lord knows why he did it that way, although I'm sure it pissed of Chris Psaros.

And I will admit that, at first, I didn't notice any real difference. It was like Gohan. Compared to the rest of the voices, I thought it was pretty close. But then he was next to Ginyu, who's new voice was awful compared to his first dub voice.

It was only after a couple of episodes I suddenly realised that he'd moved to the other side of the Earth. I think it was all the "mates" that started to appear in the script. Hard to tell if it was Sabat's fault, or the script "writer" at the time (and I do use that term loosely).

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:42 pm

PsyLiam wrote:I tend to go for "G'day", or "dag", myself.

But that's because you're British. And I'm not a huge Beatles fan myself so that's why I asked about whether it sounded closer to John or Ringo. I was really into them when I was around 8 and first saw "Yellow Submarine", then I proceeded to watch that crazy movie about a million times and memorize the songs!

I wouldn't have any hope remember the majority of the lyrics now.

As for whose fault it was about Sabat's accent change, who knows? You could say it was Chris', but then again I remember hearing that he was told that they wanted a laid-back feel to Yamucha, so they told him to do that "surfer voice". It wouldn't suprise me. But then again, I remember in the credits that Terry Klassen who worked with McNeil was still doing re-writes for the scripts when the dialogue recording was moved to Fort Worth, Texas, and so I think in this case it was probably the fault of the voice director and probably Sabat's a bit as well.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:57 am

PsyLiam wrote:You will be punched in the face, m'lady.

And didn't one of the black female Power Rangers die?

No, it was the original yellow ranger who was Vietnamese who died.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:05 am

PsyLiam wrote:
Adamant wrote: It wasn't? Eh, what do I know about accents anyway?
I know that Americans get British and Australian accents mixed up, and I can (sorta) understand that. But British and French?

For the record, I'm Norwegian.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:33 pm

Adamant wrote:For the record, I'm Norwegian.

My condolances.

Jerseymilk wrote:But then again, I remember in the credits that Terry Klassen who worked with McNeil was still doing re-writes for the scripts when the dialogue recording was moved to Fort Worth, Texas, and so I think in this case it was probably the fault of the voice director and probably Sabat's a bit as well.

I would blame Terry Klassen. The man couldn't even spell his name correctly on the end credits, for crying out loud.

And I agree with VegEX. It was horrible to hear Sonny Strait at fight, but you try going back to Klassen afterwards...it's a million times worse. Strait's Kuririn actually has some personality. Klassen's is a little whining whinging bag of annoyance.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:44 pm

I'm not talking about Klassen's voicing abilities here,(and by the way, he may do a lousy Kuririn, but he's a cute baby Sylvester), what I meant by my comment was I don't think it was the script writing you could blame because I don't think that there had been too many changes concerning who was doing the writing, but the voices of course all changed. I figure it was most likely McNeil's idea to do that kind of voice for Jees, trust me, the guy's one of the biggest "hams" ever, the guy never shuts-ups with the crazy voices. It's just that Sabat, especially at the beginning, didnt have the same level of talent and probably he and the voice director were trying to figure out what sort of voice he had down. I'll bet you they didn't even know it was a "scouse" accent, I bet they actually, truly thought it was Australian!

Come on, if Gen Fukunaga is clueless enough to not even know what the real plot of GT is at first, as evidenced in that Aussie magazine that Pancakes so kindly posted up for us, the dialogue people can definitely not get an accent right!

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:27 am

True. Besides, Jeice's accent was bizaire enough anyway that I just found it funny, both Scouse and Australian.

I didn't really mind Klassen's Kuririn at first. In fact, I was really annoyed when it changed. But when he came back for the Ocean Dub of the Android era stuff, it really started to annoy me. He can't do anything except whine! (Although that wasn't half as annoying as when he was doing Babidi. He could at least have TRIED to make him sound a bit different from Kuririn.)

Oh, and Scott McNeil is my hero. And at least Jeice was a departure from his normal set of voices, listed thusly:

1/ Piccolo/Wolverine
2/ Rattrap/Duo
3/ Dinobot (which he also used for a few voices in DBZ, but nothing I can think of right now)
4/ Silverbolt

And actually, I've never heard him use Silverbolt's voice anywhere else either.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:30 am

Oh, the Dinobot voice is used all the time! In the new He-Man, Inu-Yasha, Escaflowne, Reboot, Transformers Armada(or is it the other one?), X-Men Evolution..... and the list goes on. It's like his standard creepy thug/monster voice. Although he did a different one in the series Shadow Raiders or War Planets,(it had two titles), it was kind of Arnold Schwartzeneger mixed with a scandinavian accent. And then there was this other crazy cartoon he did a few years ago called Mummies Alive! and he basically did a British erudite-sounding Rattrap, it was strange to hear after Beast Wars. But ya gotta love his whole "Jamaican schitck" as Principal Kuno in Ranma! That's just insane and makes no sense, but funny!

Even though it's totally inaccurate. And I agree with you about Klassen's Kuririn. It is whiny and irritating. Of course I don't like Sonny Strait's much either, but when you're used to the incredible job veteran seiyuu Tanaka Mayumi did, it's kind of a losing battle anyway.

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:19 am

TripleRach wrote:As for the original topic, Kyle Hebert mentioned on his site a rumor that Tom Welling is supposedly being considered for Gokuu. He plays a decent Clark Kent, and Superman and Gokuu do in fact have a few things in common, but I just can't picture him as Gokuu. But that's probably nothing more than a rumor, and I have serious doubts that this movie will ever even be made.

(I hope this doesn't start another Superman vs Gokuu debate...)

Isn't the dude doing Clark Kent invalid now..?

Post by **TripleRach** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:38 pm

sangofe wrote:Isn't the dude doing Clark Kent invalid now..?

Err, Christopher Reeve is paralyzed, yes. But he played Superman in the movies twenty years ago. Tom Welling is the person who plays Clark Kent on the recent show Smallville. Christopher Reeve is much too old to play Gokuu, anyway.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:00 pm

He could play "Guru!"

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:36 pm

TripleRach wrote:Tom Welling is the person who plays Clark Kent on the recent show Smallville. Christopher Reeve is much too old to play Gokuu, anyway.

There's also Dean Cain, from Lois and Clark. Or the voice actor he had on the Superman cartoon. Or the new one he has on Justice League. Or whoever is suppossed to play him this week on the constantly on-off new Superman movie.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:56 pm

on-off new Superman movie? Wha?

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:13 pm

There's been an on/off Superman movie for about 7 years now, I believe.

Kanzenshuu

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