Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by Rocketman » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:37 pm

The Monkey King wrote:I wonder why Vegito wasn't even considered to fight Birusu? :think:
Same reason Vegeta is never mentioned in Movie 10 - he would roflstomp the bad guy.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:41 pm

Except he wouldn't in this case :D . Beers is stated to be the strongest in the history of Z and Goku says SSJ God is a realm of power he never thought could even exist. SSJ God Goku > SSJ3 Vegetto.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:42 pm

The Kaioshin were wearing their Potara earrings, BTW.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:42 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The Kaioshin were wearing their Potara earrings, BTW.
Hmm must have made new ones then.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Goku says SSJ God is a realm of power he never thought could even exist.
Oh pbbt. Meaningless hype statement, just like the fifteen people in Dragonball who were called "God of Martial Arts!!".
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:51 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Hmm must have made new ones then.
Probably not that hard since Kibito just zaps them on to Gohan when giving him the Kaioshin garb.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:52 pm

Rocketman wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Goku says SSJ God is a realm of power he never thought could even exist.
Oh pbbt. Meaningless hype statement, just like the fifteen people in Dragonball who were called "God of Martial Arts!!".
Or your a butthurt Vegetto fanboy. Take your pick.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by rereboy » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:14 pm

Goku achieving SSJ God doesn't mean that he couldn't fuse with Vegeta afterwards. He would probably need the potara though, since their powers would be too uneven for regular fusion. And thus, SSJ God Vegetto would fart and all the universes would tremble as the shockwave messed them all up.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:15 pm

rereboy wrote:Goku achieving SSJ God doesn't mean that he couldn't fuse with Vegeta afterwards. He would probably need the potara though, since their powers would be too uneven for regular fusion.
SSJ God Vegetto :lol: . He could fart and destroy the universe...
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by rereboy » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:17 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
rereboy wrote:Goku achieving SSJ God doesn't mean that he couldn't fuse with Vegeta afterwards. He would probably need the potara though, since their powers would be too uneven for regular fusion.
SSJ God Vegetto :lol: . He could fart and destroy the universe...
OMG I literally just edited my post with exactly the same thought but in other words :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:18 pm

Nice :lol: .
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:13 pm

I don't think SS God is a multiplier or anything. Otherwise Gohan would have been the god.

Also Vegeta would not be able to roflstomp Broly. He could beat him, but still.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:16 pm

What? SSJ2 Buu Saga Vegeta can ROFLstomp Broly =/. BoG makes the ROFLstomp just that much worse :lol: .
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:19 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I don't think SS God is a multiplier or anything. Otherwise Gohan would have been the god.
They didn't choose the Super Saiyan God. Goku just came, took the Dragon Balls, and asked everyone to make him the Super Saiyan God, because he wanted to fight Beers. And everyone agreed, of course, since Goku is their leader.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:30 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:What? SSJ2 Buu Saga Vegeta can ROFLstomp Broly =/. BoG makes the ROFLstomp just that much worse :lol: .
Not pre Majin. They should be equals roughly, since at this time Vegeta was still heavily implied to be below kid Gohan, yet still decently above teen Gohan like Broly was. Pre-Majin Vegeta = Movie 10 Broly = Super Perfect Cell IMO.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:34 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:What? SSJ2 Buu Saga Vegeta can ROFLstomp Broly =/. BoG makes the ROFLstomp just that much worse :lol: .
Not pre Majin. They should be equals roughly, since at this time Vegeta was still heavily implied to be below kid Gohan, yet still decently above teen Gohan like Broly was. Pre-Majin Vegeta = Movie 10 Broly = Super Perfect Cell IMO.
Debatable. I think SPC also ROFLstomps M10 Broly.
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Re: Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:What? SSJ2 Buu Saga Vegeta can ROFLstomp Broly =/. BoG makes the ROFLstomp just that much worse :lol: .
Not pre Majin. They should be equals roughly, since at this time Vegeta was still heavily implied to be below kid Gohan, yet still decently above teen Gohan like Broly was. Pre-Majin Vegeta = Movie 10 Broly = Super Perfect Cell IMO.
Debatable. I think SPC also ROFLstomps M10 Broly.
M10 Broly > SPC. He three shotted SSJ2 Teen Gohan

SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is debatable
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:16 pm

Lolno. SSJ2 Adolescent Gohan is a lot weaker than SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly actually did have trouble with SSJ2 Gohan. Gohan breaking Broly's hold is a good example. SSJ2 Kid Gohan and SPC would both ROFLstomp M10 Broly.
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Post by Undertaker » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:30 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Lolno. SSJ2 Adolescent Gohan is a lot weaker than SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly actually did have trouble with SSJ2 Gohan. Gohan breaking Broly's hold is a good example. SSJ2 Kid Gohan and SPC would both ROFLstomp M10 Broly.
What troubles? He just got flinched twice

Cell can't tank a punch and three shot Gohan

Broly is stronger, deal with it
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