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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:23 pm

mikezilla2 wrote:so are these uncut ?
Only partly. Popo's lips are censored, the translation is still the same as the vizbigs, though I think the font was changed. Regarding nudity and violence, I'm not sure.
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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:19 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
mikezilla2 wrote:so are these uncut ?
Only partly. Popo's lips are censored, the translation is still the same as the vizbigs, though I think the font was changed. Regarding nudity and violence, I'm not sure.
From what I've seen after looking through the first volume, Popo's lips appear to be the only censoring I've seen as far as the art is concerned.

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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:32 pm

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mikezilla2 wrote:so are these uncut ?
Only partly. Popo's lips are censored, the translation is still the same as the vizbigs, though I think the font was changed. Regarding nudity and violence, I'm not sure.
From what I've seen after looking through the first volume, Popo's lips appear to be the only censoring I've seen as far as the art is concerned.
Well, there isn't much nudity in this part of the series. So no censorship in the shotgun, Goku's death, etc?
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Post by rereboy » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:33 pm

The only censorship that Viz currently does in the Z portion of the manga is regarding Mr. Popo's lips, Gohan's penis, #17's gun and the riffles of those thugs in the Buu arc. There's currently no censorship at all in the first volume, besides Mr. Popo.

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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:22 pm

rereboy wrote:The only censorship that Viz currently does in the Z portion of the manga is regarding Mr. Popo's lips, Gohan's penis, #17's gun and the riffles of those thugs in the Buu arc. There's currently no censorship at all in the first volume, besides Mr. Popo.
So the shotgun is OK, the riffles and guns aren't. Nice.
I don't mind Gohan's penis being censored (as long as it is well censored) but Mr. Popo is THE proof of the American double-sided moral code we all love.
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Post by rereboy » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:29 pm

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rereboy wrote:The only censorship that Viz currently does in the Z portion of the manga is regarding Mr. Popo's lips, Gohan's penis, #17's gun and the riffles of those thugs in the Buu arc. There's currently no censorship at all in the first volume, besides Mr. Popo.
So the shotgun is OK, the riffles and guns aren't. Nice.
I don't mind Gohan's penis being censored (as long as it is well censored) but Mr. Popo is THE proof of the American double-sided moral code we all love.
They didn't actually remove the riffles, they just altered them a bit so that they looked less realistic and more futuristic. And they were used to kill an old couple in cold blood sniper-style, so its a different situation from farmer with a shotgun. Not that I'm defending the censorship, I'm just explaining their logic.

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Post by Super Sonic » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:54 am

And the next volume, it was back to a regular machine gun. Kinda makes me wonder if they ever do develop lazer blasters, what will happen then?
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Those other situations show nudity but only the Oolong scene actually explicitly shows a sexual situation ("puff-puffing" the boobs) so its not the same thing. I highly doubt that its a mistake. I really don't see how they would confuse her nipples with something else.
Umm, rereboy, I've noticed you've brought up that instance a lot, so was wondering were you mad about censors, or mad because you couldn't see boobies? And how is it in actual Japanese, as I've seen scans of Frieza post-Spirit Bomb altered to make him look more messed up than he was by it.

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Post by oXdanXo » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:27 am

How many of the full colour volumes will it take to cover the series?
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Post by Duo » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:56 am

oXdanXo wrote:How many of the full colour volumes will it take to cover the series?
Digitally, it comes out as 42 volumes, the same as the tankobon, but with some differing chapter cut offs between volumes. I, hopefully, am not mistaken on this.

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Post by Mewzard » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:36 am

Duo wrote:
oXdanXo wrote:How many of the full colour volumes will it take to cover the series?
Digitally, it comes out as 42 volumes, the same as the tankobon, but with some differing chapter cut offs between volumes. I, hopefully, am not mistaken on this.
I dunno about digitally, but physically it should be less, since there's more chapters per volume, it should be less. And Viz does their digital the same size as their physical, so it should be less for there as well.
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Post by Windrammer » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:53 am

rereboy wrote:The only censorship that Viz currently does in the Z portion of the manga is regarding Mr. Popo's lips, Gohan's penis, #17's gun and the riffles of those thugs in the Buu arc. There's currently no censorship at all in the first volume, besides Mr. Popo.
Aren't middle fingers normally censored, too?

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Post by rereboy » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:42 am

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Umm, rereboy, I've noticed you've brought up that instance a lot, so was wondering were you mad about censors, or mad because you couldn't see boobies? And how is it in actual Japanese, as I've seen scans of Freeza post-Spirit Bomb altered to make him look more messed up than he was by it.
I bring this issue a lot because most of the fan base is wrong about Dragon Ball being released uncensored at one point. I'm alway finding new people with that misconception so I rectify them.

Personally, I don't really care about the existing censorship. There are only two instances that somewhat break the story/meaning of the scene: the removal of #17's gun and the removal of the middle fingers. If those were fixed, the rest would be insignificant because they don't affect the story or anything else, it would only be a matter of principle and nothing else.

And I have no idea what you are talking about regarding Freeza's wounds. I never heard anything like that nor do I really understand what you are trying to say or ask.

Also, I believe you are wrong about it going back to a machine gun. All panels with those guns were altered to make the guns less realistic.
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rereboy wrote:The only censorship that Viz currently does in the Z portion of the manga is regarding Mr. Popo's lips, Gohan's penis, #17's gun and the riffles of those thugs in the Buu arc. There's currently no censorship at all in the first volume, besides Mr. Popo.
Aren't middle fingers normally censored, too?
That's true. Forgot to mention it. And I should remember it because that's some of the worst of the censorship. But I can only think of two examples of that in Z portion of the manga, none of them in this volume.

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:12 pm

So I just got back from my comic shop and the owner handed me this since I ordered it. It's really cool and great to look at. Definitely worth getting.
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I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Post by Makaioshin » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:02 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:So I just got back from my comic shop and the owner handed me this since I ordered it. It's really cool and great to look at. Definitely worth getting.
Did they by any chance include the Q&A with Toriyama or the "Enter the Dragon Ball" section?

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:24 pm

Makaioshin wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:So I just got back from my comic shop and the owner handed me this since I ordered it. It's really cool and great to look at. Definitely worth getting.
Did they by any chance include the Q&A with Toriyama or the "Enter the Dragon Ball" section?
Nope. But they do have a sound effects glossary on the back which tells you what the untranslated sound effects say.
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I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:45 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:But they do have a sound effects glossary on the back which tells you what the untranslated sound effects say.
Was it that hard to do this, Viz? Was it?
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:18 pm

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ShadowDude112 wrote:But they do have a sound effects glossary on the back which tells you what the untranslated sound effects say.
Was it that hard to do this, Viz? Was it?
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
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I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Post by MagicBox » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:31 pm

I believe he's asking why Viz couldn't have simply put the sound effect translations on top of the panels (like in the picture he posted) as opposed to creating a glossary.

So no Toriyama Q&A, huh? That's odd. Are all of the chapter title pages included? I think I remember hearing the Japanese release left some out.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:42 pm

MagicBox wrote:I believe he's asking why Viz couldn't have simply put the sound effect translations on top of the panels (like in the picture he posted) as opposed to creating a glossary.

So no Toriyama Q&A, huh? That's odd. Are all of the chapter title pages included? I think I remember hearing the Japanese release left some out.
Oh, sorry. The translation was so small on the page I didn't see it. Yes, chapter titles are all in there. The Viz chapter titles. I believe Viz made some different chapter titles. Also, Popo's lips are censored. I forget if they were in the digital version or not.
EDIT: Oh, title pages? There are ones for chapters 1, 2, and 3. Which is all I've seen so far. Chapter 1 is Raditz, 2 is Goku, Gohan, Chi-Chi, and Gyumao in the car from Zenkai Power, and 3 is Gohan dressed as Son Wukong. I think that's it.
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JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Post by Soul » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:25 pm

Yeah, isn't Popo's lips censored in the Japanese version as well?
My local Books-A-Million had it already so I nabbed it, added it's the first time I've ever actually owned the manga, and for all extensive purposes, it's the best physical high quality release we'll ever have. The glossy paper really makes the art pop even more.

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