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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Duo » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:33 am

*skims thread*

One of them should be the Tori-Bot.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Friezacooler » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:48 am

or they shouldn't make the other gods appear but make a statement for some unknown reason Frieza managed to absorb all their godly ki and now he is back for vengeance :twisted: not to far of since Akira seems to hype him up after so long 8)

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Duo » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:55 am

Friezacooler wrote:or they shouldn't make the other gods appear but make a statement for some unknown reason Freeza managed to absorb all their godly ki and now he is back for vengeance :twisted: not to far of since Akira seems to hype him up after so long 8)
I've started to feel as though Akira Toriyama actually dislikes Freeza, and that's why he puts attention on how he was beaten, or even gets talked down about (see the 08 SJ special). Now we just need a high definition reanimation of Trunks murdering him.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:59 am

Yeah, Freeza gets treated like complete crap after Goku turns SS. He gets the shit kicked out of him, is reduced to pathetically begging his enemy for a shred of energy, comes back stronger only to get one-shotted by a new character straight out of a fanfic, is treated as a joke for the rest of the saga, is talked down about by the local wuss Kaioshin, who says that he was never the strongest and there were at least half a dozen people capable of killing him one blow, is said to be "in hindsight, not much of a foe" by Goku in the 08 special and is treated as a joke by the kids, his defeat is remade and mentioned repeatedly in BOG, and BOG reveals that he never had any hope at victory even if he gained immortality, because Beers was going to kill him anyway.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Friezacooler » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:10 am

both of you deliberately ignoring to mention the fact freeza also got hyped up, regarding base saiyan's to being inferior to frieza even after buu saga. nuff said.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Saiga » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:11 am

That's not very considerable hype when every Saiyan in the Boo arc can turn Super Saiyan.
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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Friezacooler » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:16 am

doesn't matter cause he still got hyped.
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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:17 am

Saiga wrote:That's not very considerable hype when every Saiyan in the Boo arc can turn Super Saiyan.
Except Yamcha; the biological father of Goten.
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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:18 am

Friezacooler wrote:both of you deliberately ignoring to mention the fact freeza also got hyped up, regarding base saiyan's to being inferior to Freeza even after buu saga. nuff said.
So a bulked out Freeza is stronger than the saiyans when they're using less than one percent of their power... what's the big deal...?

Ignoring power levels, Freeza is just shat on from a story perspective. He was never the strongest in the universe, he wasn't even the strongest of his family if you factor in the EU, he was never able to beat a Super Saiyan, and he was never going to succeed in his goals, no matter what.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Duo » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:19 am

Friezacooler wrote:both of you deliberately ignoring to mention the fact freeza also got hyped up, regarding base saiyan's to being inferior to Freeza even after buu saga. nuff said.
How is that hype? A base Saiyan's power level has been irrelevant since the moment Goku transformed. That whole line was in the movie just to establish Super Saiyan in the film.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Friezacooler » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:26 am

it just means that the certain times the saiyan's were fighting android saga characters or buu saga characters in their base frieza would have atleast handled it better than the base saiyan's. 8)

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:27 am

Friezacooler wrote:it just means that the certain times the saiyan's were fighting android saga characters or buu saga characters in their base Freeza would have atleast handled it better than the base saiyan's. 8)
Too bad Freeza wasn't there to take out Pui-Pui, right?
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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:29 am

Friezacooler wrote:it just means that the certain times the saiyan's were fighting android saga characters or buu saga characters in their base Freeza would have atleast handled it better than the base saiyan's. 8)
That happens like twice in the Buu Saga dude. And nowhere else. I don't think it's that impressive that Freeza can beat Pui Pui and Yakon. Unless you count those two surprise hits in the android saga as "fighting". In which case, I don't think it's impressive that Freeza can take Android 19 and Android 20 either. And I never doubted that Freeza was stronger than all of these characters before the movie came out, except Yakon.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Duo » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:30 am

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Friezacooler wrote:it just means that the certain times the saiyan's were fighting android saga characters or buu saga characters in their base Freeza would have atleast handled it better than the base saiyan's. 8)
That happens like twice in the Buu Saga dude. And nowhere else. I don't think it's that impressive that Freeza can beat Pui Pui and Yakon. Unless you count those two surprise hits in the android saga as "fighting". In which case, I don't think it's impressive that Freeza can take Android 19 and Android 20 either.
What about Spopovich? He was surely a powerful opponent that we now know Freeza would have been greatly helpful against. God help us if somebody ever wishes Yamu back.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Friezacooler » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:19 am

Spopovich >>> super saiyans as he owned one. 8)

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Duo » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:24 am

Friezacooler wrote:Spopovich >>> super saiyans as he owned one. 8)
They held down a Super Saiyan 2 with total ease. It anything these guys might have been in a league all on their own.

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:32 am

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Friezacooler wrote:Spopovich >>> super saiyans as he owned one. 8)
They held down a Super Saiyan 2 with total ease. It anything these guys might have been in a league all on their own.
Videl did better against Spopivich than Gohan did; clearly Videl is stronger.
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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

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Friezacooler wrote:Spopovich >>> super saiyans as he owned one. 8)
They held down a Super Saiyan 2 with total ease. It anything these guys might have been in a league all on their own.
Videl did better against Spopivich than Gohan did; clearly Videl is stronger.
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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:17 am

Chi-Chi: How dare you walk in here and act like that!? You show some respect! Do you hear me?
Baby: (to himself) What an overwhelming personality. She may be physically weaker than the others, but in Goten's mind, she is more important than anything. Perhaps her powers are hidden deep inside her.
Chi-Chi: Are you listening!? You answer me when I'm talking to you!?
Baby: (to himself) Perhaps it is best for me to abide by the constance of this planet until I find Vegeta.

looks like someone needs give grand elder Guru or elder kai a visit :lol:

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Re: Other Possible Gods of Destruction

Post by Hades » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:11 pm

On the whole "let's copy the egyptian gods" shtick, I wonder if the most powerful is going to be an androgynous emperor of a thousand galaxies who is voiced by Jaye Davidson.
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