Goku's mother...appearing soon?!

[B]

I don't have a problem with this type of stuff, generally, because it's all inconsequential; the way Toriyama likes it. Some people hate that, but I'd argue it's better if all these side stories didn't get so heavy. Dragon Ball isn't Kingdom Hearts; it's interest in world building and expansion on its universe is completely superficial.

I don't think seeing Goku's mother will change anything. Much like Mr. Satan's real name didn't, or the plant origins of the Gods, or Super Saiyan Bardock, or eleven other universes. It's all breezy, laid back fluff to satiate your nerdy need for new material.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, here. Just because they announced a new character doesn't mean they're going to do a spin-off. Not every revelation results in a spin-off. Toriyama revealed that Mr. Satan's first name was Mark a few years ago, but it's not like they made a prequel movie about his life.

And hey, if there is new spin-off material from this, and it turns out to be good, awesome. If it turns out to be bad, meh. It's not like it ruins the story. Fans will just do what they always do when unsatisfactory spin-off stories are made: go into elongated explanations of how the new stuff can still exist in the same continuity as the existing stuff. Life goes on.

[Makaioshin]

Well, I guess it is a way to get more Dragon Ball fans to care that Jaco the Galatic Patrolman exists.

They will. They tamper with everything.

It happened with Bardock, it'll happen with Gine.

She probably won't look exactly like Goku and she is also a woman. If it happens it will be a first for the franchise.

[Wobbuffet]

Hey, when are we going to get to all of Goku and Raditz's hereforeto unseen siblings Bardock had with women on other planets? Maybe some kind of Saiyan dog named Vego? The Saiyan monkey Bepporot? Goku's cousin Goka? Goku's one time mermaid girlfriend we never know about?

Now I want to see a Legion of Saiyan Pets.
I'm not kidding, I really want this.

[Chuquita]

Personality-wise, if anything, Gine sounds similar to Gohan more than Gokû.

[Duo]

I just get the feeling they're going to try to explain Goku's personality through his mother, instead of the time-tested tradition of him having fallen into a canyon and hit his head.

Much of his personality comes from BRAIN DAMAGE. That rock he hit his head on is his mother. I want to see Goku visit the rock every Mother's Day and put flowers around it.

I'm with you on this. I'm OK with the idea of Goku's mother being a character, but if it is used to try and explain the way he is...no. If he hadn't hit his head on that rock, he would have grown up to be about the same as Raditz. Having a moment of stupid luck create the "savior of the universe" via brain damage is one of the things I love about Son Goku's back story.

[Attitudefan]

So maybe Raditz was going to leave earth if Goku let go since he would have the "kindness genes" his mother had

[Fizzer]

I think the expansion of the universe is a good thing for a long-finished series, when it's not stupid shit like Bardock being the legendary Super Saiyan.

She does indeed sound more like Gohan than Goku, and that makes sense. Goku got his personality from brain damage, but Gohan didn't.

She's probably dead, but I have conflicted feelings about the idea of her being alive. On one hand, two of Goku's close relatives (Raditz and Gine) and one of Vegeta's (Tarble) survived the destruction of Vegeta, it would be insane. Exactly how many Saiyans are there out there that AREN'T related to those two?! On the other hand, the idea of it being revealed that Goku has a living biological parent who isn't a typical Saiyan bastard, after all this time, is really quite amazing.

[Metalwario64]

I thought the whole second Bardock special was complete crap, and I still don't really like Tarble, or the idea behind him.

This is a bit more interesting, and far less intrusive than either of those two I imagine, so I'm actually kind of curious.

[Eddie]

So maybe Raditz was going to leave earth if Goku let go since he would have the "kindness genes" his mother had

I'm telling you, Raditz was a prick due to unresolved childhood issues. His mom dropped him off at space kindergarten and never came back to get him, what with that whole "Look at the pretty fireworks" thing happening to Planet Vegeta.

[Herms]

Toriyama revealed that Mr. Satan's first name was Mark a few years ago,

Not his "first name", no. It's his real name. He's a guy named "Mark", simply "Mark", and "Mister Satan" is his totally made-up stage name. Toriyama explicitly says that neither he nor Videl have surnames, because nobody in their region of the world does.

[TheGmGoken]

Didn't GT files say the original Planet Sayia is still around? Though they most likely forgot about the planet..well the original Planet Saiya

[Eddie]

Didn't GT files say the original Planet Sayia is still around? Though they most likely forgot about the planet..well the original Planet Saiya

IIRC, it implied that it could be. Who knows if anyone involved remembers that, though.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Toriyama revealed that Mr. Satan's first name was Mark a few years ago,

Not his "first name", no. It's his real name. He's a guy named "Mark", simply "Mark", and "Mister Satan" is his totally made-up stage name. Toriyama explicitly says that neither he nor Videl have surnames, because nobody in their region of the world does.

Ah, OK. Thanks for clarifying! And if I'm not mistaken, that is kind of a name pun in and of itself because "Mark" when pronounced with a Japanese accent, sounds relatively simmilar to the Japanese word for "devil," right? Or am I getting some of the details messed up?

EDIT: OK, I was on the right track, but yet again, I was slightly off.

But anyway, my point is (and I understand you weren't contesting this in correcting me, Herms) was that not every new revalation automatically equals bad spin-off material. If anything, depending on how much more Toei wants to make, perhaps it might be more appropriate to begin to think of Dragon Ball like Star Wars, like how there is a main story (the movies) and spin-off stories (the Expanded Universe)...whether the spin-off stuff is good or bad, it doesn't destroy the main story.

And hey, more bad spin-off material at least means more great material for TFS.

[goku the krump dancer]

I just get the feeling they're going to try to explain Goku's personality through his mother, instead of the time-tested tradition of him having fallen into a canyon and hit his head.

Much of his personality comes from BRAIN DAMAGE. That rock he hit his head on is his mother. I want to see Goku visit the rock every Mother's Day and put flowers around it.

I'm with you on this. I'm OK with the idea of Goku's mother being a character, but if it is used to try and explain the way he is...no. If he hadn't hit his head on that rock, he would have grown up to be about the same as Raditz. Having a moment of stupid luck create the "savior of the universe" via brain damage is one of the things I love about Son Goku's back story.

Ooooohh I didn't even think about that... and I agree with both of you. If they go that route, I think it'll be the first time anything Dragon Ball related pissed me off. As minor of a character as Giney is, I have a small feeling she might spill some serious beans on something related to saiyan culture.

[TheGmGoken]

Not going to lie. ANyone going to miss some of the mystery factor of who Goku's mother is? I mean a lot of anime or other fiction material only have one parent for the important characters. Brings lots of mystery. Seriously I'm going to miss not knowing the name and personality of Goku's mother.

[KentalSSJ6]

Not going to lie. ANyone going to miss some of the mystery factor of who Goku's mother is? I mean a lot of anime or other fiction material only have one parent for the important characters. Brings lots of mystery. Seriously I'm going to miss not knowing the name and personality of Goku's mother.

Not really? I have wanted to know for years now and finally we are getting a answer.

[penguintruth]

That's my point. We don't need to know everything, and if anything, some things remaining a mystery are a good thing.

Do we need to know about Bulma's childhood? What about Kuririn's parents? How Yamucha came to live in the desert (I still say he was quarantined for STDs)? What Oolong and Puar's lives were like in the transformation school? Nappa's favorite body wash? What Goku ate for breakfast on the day he went out to fight the Artificial Humans? No. We don't. Not only are those details unnecessary, they're not desirable.

Who cares who Goku's mom is? She's long dead. Everybody's dead, Dave.

[TheGmGoken]

Not going to lie. ANyone going to miss some of the mystery factor of who Goku's mother is? I mean a lot of anime or other fiction material only have one parent for the important characters. Brings lots of mystery. Seriously I'm going to miss not knowing the name and personality of Goku's mother.

Not really? I have wanted to know for years now and finally we are getting a answer.

I wanted to know as well. But some things aren't meant to be answered. Such as the original LSSJ. They're nice to think about(especially since the SSJ thing was a legend. Which felt badass once someone got it) but the mystery is what made it awesome. Bardock was awesome(I liked EOB btw) but became a little to heroic(Even if he wanted revenge on Freeza) in EOB. Bardock being a failure gained symphony from the audience IMO. Not knowing ONE of Goku's parents is just fiction 101.

[Kaboom]

Who cares who Goku's mom is?

Some people apparently do, and it seems Toriyama cared enough to oblige them.