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by Lunatic Fringe » Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:55 am
ABED wrote:Listen to Colleen's performance that she did for "Teen Gohan" her vocal not only is it high-pitched but annoying and unsuitable for Gohan.
I have listened to it, and never had a problem with it. Nadolny is way more annoying to me. Colleen's voice isn't.
Nadolny's Gohan and Goku laughs just bug me. It's like a cross between Woody Woodpecker and Krusty the Clown.
Even if I agreed that Colleen always sounded angry, I'll take that over Nadolny who is a terrible actress. She might have Gohan sound happier, but it sounds like someone trying to make their character sound happy.

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Hilarity aside, I agree with the above sentiments. Glad that Nadolny was replaced. She just wasn't fitting to play the part at all.
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by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:32 am
Colleen was too feminine for them
Saffron actually sounds like a boy.
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by ABED » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:34 am
Ree wrote:Colleen was too feminine for them
Saffron actually sounds like a boy.
I actually agree with this. It's difficult to get a good voice for young boys. Either you get a young boy, but you run the risk of the voice changing which happens frequently, or you get a woman whose voices are higher, but still don't doesn't necessarily sound like little boys.
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by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:19 pm
Yeah I didn't even know Saffron was a woman!
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by Man-Child » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:16 pm
I thought she was fine for the Freeza to Cell sagas. As others have noted, it's in the redubs that Nadolny especially stood out. Her cries and laughs are a bit annoying, and the Saiyan saga had plenty of each. She just wasn't right for Gohan at that age. I like her best for his pre-teen years, and I do miss her in the role, but there have been better Gohans before and since. Saffron Henderson has always been my personal favorite in that department.
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by ShadowDude112 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:20 pm
Nadonly always made Goku and Gohan sound like they smoked constantly. At least Clinkenbeard makes them sound natural. Even Saffron Henderson sounded better than Nadonly. Nadonly was just not a good fit for the roles.
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by nickzambuto » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:42 pm
Her Goku is phenomenal, I'll leave it at that.
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by TheGreatness25 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:12 pm
I liked Nadolny. I didn't really like her as Gohan early on in the Namek/Freeza arc, but at this stage in my life, I know why: I didn't like the majority of the characters' portrayal. I think that she did a good job during the Cell arc, especially the Cell Games. I liked what she did with Goku. He did sound innocent and goofy, which is what they were going for.
Gohan's voice was a bit more raspy, but I never found anything wrong with it.
I'm in the minority here, but I think that Colleen Clickenbeard's Gohan sounds pretty nauseating. It reminds me of Axel's voice from Mega Man X-7, actually. I don't see Gohan any more innocent or "cute" as a 4 year old with Clickenbeard's performance, and I don't find him any more badass when he turns Super Saiyan 2. For me, it was a pretty useless replacement because they had the chance to cast someone that could bring out the cuteness of little kid Gohan and that's just not what happened. I still claim that Saffron Henderson's performance as Gohan (and Goku, I guess, though in 14 episodes and a movie, it's hard to see if it really was good) was the best version, outside of the Japanese one of course.
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by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:19 pm
Ree wrote:Colleen was too feminine for them
Saffron actually sounds like a boy.
This.
Also, yes! She really was that bad!
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Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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by DB_Fan1991 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:28 pm
For Goku I think Stephanie is fine in the role. Gohan on the other hand she doesn't fit until after he has gotten out of the Room of Spirit and Time just before his fight with Cell. I can't take 4 year old Gohan seriously with Stephanie's voice. I think Colleen did better there.
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by Scarlet Spider » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:38 am
She's great as Gohan during the Cell saga. Sounded a bit too old during early DBZ. But overall, she'll always be my Gohan.
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by gohann » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:55 pm
Don't know how I missed this thread.
I thought she was good, not as good as her Goku, but still great. At the very least, she's a lot better than Colleen Clinkenbeard and Jillian Michaels.
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by Blackstripe » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:40 pm
I thought she sounded like Bobby Hill.
I prefer Colleen.