Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by KingKaiGuy » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:00 pm

I feel the new movie will have more grit than Battle of Gods, but honestly, I'm not sure if I want some Freeza Arc style battle damage. While I do want to have some cool blood and/or battle damage (ripped shirts FTW), I don't want guys coughing up blood like when your accidently swallow too much water. I'll be fine with a couple busted lips and scratches as long as the battle is taken seriously.

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Re: is Dragonball becoming to soft?

Post by ParkerAL » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:22 pm

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Captain Space wrote:Despite BoG being more true to the spirit of the manga than any of the Toei movies, you mean?
Horseshit. bog is true to the spirit of being a gigantic turd and nothing else.
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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by tx3 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:01 am

Big Momma wrote:You should probably type more than "ok" if you're going to respond. A one-word reply doesn't really add much.

tx3 wrote:
tx3 wrote:dont get me wrong guys i dont like BoG but i would not say it's terrible ..just ok..nothing special.
what we all agree on is ...that Dragonball needs more fighting and less ...well everything that is not fighting ..except humor ..humor belongs to Dragonball ...but no more dancing Vegetas please XD. right?
(Why did you submit a post simply quoting yourself?)

As for what you said, I'd imagine a good number of people disagree. The entire story is "Dragon Ball", even the "Z" part. It's all the same story. And it has plenty of it's own humor. I love the fighting, too. But I would love for more of the humor to come back. I would love for the series to not take itself so seriously.
i am on an old mobile phone its a technical problem ..i got fed up it's not doing what i want ....as for my respond "ok"...i wrote it needs more fighting ..he said it is enough fighting, at least i think he meant that by saying "half of it is fighting" .....well ok i like more and he dont ..the end.

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by Mystic Tien » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:25 pm

tx3 wrote:so i once read in a interview with toriyama that his kids like One piece way more than dragonball ...well taste can be different but! here is the thing toriyama actually did go with his artstyle in the direction of one piece which means less muscle less buff dudes as seen in his most recent artworks
Highly doubt it. One Piece has also a lot of muscle guys, even now.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by tx3 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:37 pm

Mystic Tien wrote:
tx3 wrote:so i once read in a interview with toriyama that his kids like One piece way more than dragonball ...well taste can be different but! here is the thing toriyama actually did go with his artstyle in the direction of one piece which means less muscle less buff dudes as seen in his most recent artworks
Highly doubt it. One Piece has also a lot of muscle guys, even now.
lol really?

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by Big Momma » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:16 pm

tx3 wrote:
Mystic Tenshinhan wrote:
tx3 wrote:so i once read in a interview with toriyama that his kids like One piece way more than dragonball ...well taste can be different but! here is the thing toriyama actually did go with his artstyle in the direction of one piece which means less muscle less buff dudes as seen in his most recent artworks
Highly doubt it. One Piece has also a lot of muscle guys, even now.
lol really?
Yes, really. Oda does draw a lot of his characters ripped. Even more now than when he started. Sometimes I'm even surprised at how toned Luffy can be.
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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by jcogginsa » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:21 pm

Big Momma wrote:
tx3 wrote:

Yes, really. Oda does draw a lot of his characters ripped. Even more now than when he started. Sometimes I'm even surprised at how toned Luffy can be.
also, it should be noted that Dragonball is usually softer than One Piece already. OP can get dark.

Plus, fun fact: Eiichiro Oda has stated that he thinks of Dragonball as the embodyment of childhood dreams, and is striving to make his series MANLY

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by Rocketman » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:33 pm

jcogginsa wrote:Oda has stated that he thinks of Dragonball as the embodyment of childhood dreams, and is striving to make his series MANLY
So he's completely delusional.

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by tx3 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:52 am

main charater OP
main character DB back then
main character DB now
my theory ...

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by Big Momma » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:59 am

tx3 wrote:main charater OP

*snip*

main character DB back then

*snip*

main character DB now *snip*

my theory ...
Could you not have used a smaller picture of Luffy? Or at least put that in spoilers?


And what is your theory? You didn't say anything.
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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by tx3 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:26 am

Big Momma wrote:
tx3 wrote:main charater OP

*snip*

main character DB back then

*snip*

main character DB now *snip*

my theory ...
Could you not have used a smaller picture of Luffy? Or at least put that in spoilers?


And what is your theory? You didn't say anything.
1. no
2. read my first post

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by Mystic Tien » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:02 am

tx3 wrote:
Mystic Tenshinhan wrote:
tx3 wrote:so i once read in a interview with toriyama that his kids like One piece way more than dragonball ...well taste can be different but! here is the thing toriyama actually did go with his artstyle in the direction of one piece which means less muscle less buff dudes as seen in his most recent artworks
Highly doubt it. One Piece has also a lot of muscle guys, even now.
lol really?
Yeah, one of the main characters, right here -
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by tx3 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:25 am

are u for real? no offense but showing me one or two buffed character is showing nothing, it's about the general theme of character designe Oda use ..which are skinny people ruffy, zoro, sanji lisop...all of them...
think about it, how many buffed heros u see nowadays compared to the 90's?..bingo! almost none ..maybe some side characters

toriyama is doing nothing other than following the trend.

point proved case closed.

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by Mystic Tien » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:43 am

tx3 wrote:are u for real? no offense but showing me one or two buffed character is showing nothing, it's about the general theme of character designe Oda use ..which are skinny people ruffy, zoro, sanji lisop...all of them...
think about it, how many buffed heros u see nowadays compared to the 90's?..bingo! almost none ..maybe some side characters

toriyama is doing nothing other than following the trend.

point proved case closed.
Marco Polo wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by tx3 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:13 am

Mystic Tien wrote:
tx3 wrote:are u for real? no offense but showing me one or two buffed character is showing nothing, it's about the general theme of character designe Oda use ..which are skinny people ruffy, zoro, sanji lisop...all of them...
think about it, how many buffed heros u see nowadays compared to the 90's?..bingo! almost none ..maybe some side characters

toriyama is doing nothing other than following the trend.

point proved case closed.
haha okay.... :roll:
if you think you prove something with that ...well ..nevermind
just two different opinions i guess :)

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by rereboy » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:13 am

Ussop is in basically a gag scene, Zoro has always been ripped but not large, and Chopper is in his special muscle form. These show their normal/most common appearances:

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by tx3 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:21 am

rereboy wrote:Ussop is in basically a gag scene, Zoro has always been ripped but not large, and Chopper is in his special muscle form. These show their normal/most common appearances:

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maybe we define buffed different...but less muscle dont mean a softer DB after all ..actually there is just a minimal relation between thoes two ..the actual softness of DB is mostly seen in Fight with less Blood and less injuries. I still think GT was planed as a kids show less mature than Z ..and that style was later on keept in the Movies ...Son Goku and his friends .guess was the name of that movie .movie where Vegeta meets his brother (which is ....u know Bullshit) but also in BoG.
Kids rule DB ..it is what it is

also thank you for clarifying him why i could not take his pics as prove
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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:22 am

"Is Dragonball becoming too soft?"

*Freeza nukes a city in Fukkatsu no F*

You tell me.
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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by tx3 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:25 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:"Is Dragonball becoming too soft?"

*Freeza nukes a city in Fukkatsu no F*

You tell me.
well lets wait till we see the movie i guess

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Re: Is Dragon Ball becoming too soft?

Post by Mystic Tien » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:27 am

rereboy wrote:Ussop is in basically a gag scene, Zoro has always been ripped but not large, and Chopper is in his special muscle form. These show their normal/most common appearances:

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Still both Usopp and Zoro are more buffed than they were before time-skip (if we don't count some special techniques of Zoro which made him more buffed during the fight). So I disagree that everyone looks more skinny now. And I also disagree that characters becoming skinnier in new DBZ movies has something to do with One Piece. Oda is a fan of Toriyama, not the other way around.

And while it is most common appearance of Chopper, it is not his real one. Here is his real and original one -
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Cool to see Gohan have a kill for once. He hasn't killed someone since Cell (or Broli if you want to count in General).
He almost got Videl killed in Battle of Gods tho.

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