SSJGSS confirmed stronger than SSJ4?

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Re: SSJGSS confirmed stronger than SSJ4?

Post by h0kuten » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:27 pm

Well!

If Goku Ssj4 (Baby) >= Super Vegetto

And:

Beerus (Heavily Suppressed) > Vegetto Ssj3 > Vegetto Ssj2 > Goku Ssj4 (Baby) >= Super Vegetto >>>>> And so on and so forth >>>> Goku Ssj3 (Buu)

And:

Goku SSJG Initial >>>>> Beerus (Heavily Suppressed > Vegetto Ssj3 > Vegetto Ssj2 > Goku Ssj4 (Baby) >= Super Vegetto >>>>> Goku Ssj3 (Buu)

And:

Beerus 50% >=< Goku SsjG (80%) > Goku SSJG Initial >>>>> Beerus....

You get the point.

Than yes, SSJG SS is far, far superior to Ssj4.

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Re: SSJGSS confirmed stronger than SSJ4?

Post by Herms » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:48 pm

So getting back to Extreme Butoden, turns out Super Saiyan God Goku and SSGSS Goku are both DP 7 playable characters (the highest tier in the game), while Super Saiyan 4 Goku and Gogeta are likewise both DP 7 support characters. Oddly, SSGSS Vegeta is only a DP 5 support character, and Super Vegetto is DP 3, while Majin Vegeta is DP 7! To put this in more perspective, Beerus and Pure Boo are both DP 7 playable characters along with SSG and SSGSS Goku. Meanwhile Ultimate Gohan, Mister Boo, Super Saiyan Gotenks, and Broli are DP 6 playable characters, while Golden Freeza and Super Saiyan Gogeta are DP 6 support characters . Perfect Cell, (Cell Games) Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, and Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta are DP 5. Besides Super Vegetto, other DP 3 support characters include Tapion, Yakon, and the Great Elder. Basically, all of this appears to have more to do with gameplay than any in-universe logic. If there's anything else in the game offering any sort of comparison between SS4 and SSGSS characters, I must have missed it.
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Re: SSJGSS confirmed stronger than SSJ4?

Post by supersaiyangodgogeta » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:21 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:
supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:ssj4 is a potential unlock, so it will always be the strongest possible form that a saiyan can utilize.

GT gokus saiyan god form would be weaker than ssj4 since ssj4 unleashed all of the dormant power of his godly body.
Nope, Goku's God potential is completely different from his normal potential.

God Goku potential> Gohan potential> Goku potential.
what are you talking about?

GT post god ssj4 goku>GT ssjgssj goku or any incarnation of goku, simply because ssj4 releases all dormant power. it will always be the supreme transformation for releasing all of a saiyans hidden power.

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Re: SSJGSS confirmed stronger than SSJ4?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:31 am

supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:
supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:ssj4 is a potential unlock, so it will always be the strongest possible form that a saiyan can utilize.

GT gokus saiyan god form would be weaker than ssj4 since ssj4 unleashed all of the dormant power of his godly body.
Nope, Goku's God potential is completely different from his normal potential.

God Goku potential> Gohan potential> Goku potential.
what are you talking about?

GT post god ssj4 goku>GT ssjgssj goku or any incarnation of goku, simply because ssj4 releases all dormant power. it will always be the supreme transformation for releasing all of a saiyans hidden power.
So was SSJ3 until SSJ4 came out. Let's not blow that "releases all dormant power" label out of proportion.
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Re: SSJGSS confirmed stronger than SSJ4?

Post by h0kuten » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:35 am

So was SSJ3 until SSJ4 came out. Let's not blow that "releases all dormant power" label out of proportion.
Super Saiyan 3 is definitely stated to bring the dormant power of it's user to their limits, but so is Super Saiyan 3. The heresy of Super Saiyan 4's multiplier in GT shouldn't be relevant. 10x Ssj3 works just fine.

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Re: SSJGSS confirmed stronger than SSJ4?

Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:48 pm

h0kuten wrote:
So was SSJ3 until SSJ4 came out. Let's not blow that "releases all dormant power" label out of proportion.
Super Saiyan 3 is definitely stated to bring the dormant power of it's user to their limits, but so is Super Saiyan 3. The heresy of Super Saiyan 4's multiplier in GT shouldn't be relevant. 10x Ssj3 works just fine.
Not really, ssj4 was stronger than 10x super bebi 2 who was stronger than ssj3 Goku.

20x ssj3 works better.

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Re: SSJGSS confirmed stronger than SSJ4?

Post by h0kuten » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:53 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:
h0kuten wrote:
So was SSJ3 until SSJ4 came out. Let's not blow that "releases all dormant power" label out of proportion.
Super Saiyan 3 is definitely stated to bring the dormant power of it's user to their limits, but so is Super Saiyan 3. The heresy of Super Saiyan 4's multiplier in GT shouldn't be relevant. 10x Ssj3 works just fine.
Not really, ssj4 was stronger than 10x super bebi 2 who was stronger than ssj3 Goku.

20x ssj3 works better.
Both transformations are said to bring the user to their limits....

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