Remastered DVD's VS Dragon Box quality comparison thread

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:08 pm

Well here in New York, anything that's crappy is called bootleg. I'm sorry if that offends you, I'll try to be politically correct from now on lol Okay, so I was just making a joke...but you know, that's the breaks.

Djinn Buu...WELL, I listened to that podcast where they explained it, and it's basically a normal translation, just something different. As far as the M on his belt, well...that M is more the symbol of Babidi than Majin Buu the way I look at it. M for Madoshi or Master/Magician?

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:08 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:On my TV, it looks pretty good. But on the comp, it looks horrible. Then again, I adjusted my TV to make it look half way normal.

Which kinda defeats the purpose. Televisions and all other display devices are supposed to conform to reference levels (hence the advent of THX test patterns and such), so that there is uniformity and a director's work with light sources and color saturation is experienced properly when viewed on any display. If you have to change your television from reference levels to make something not look painful...well, then it's crackheaded.

Well here in New York, anything that's crappy is called bootleg.

Weird. Never heard that word used that way when I was in NYC before. Never heard it used by New York natives in that context either. In any case, a bootleg is (by definition) something that is produced, reproduced, or distributed illicitly or without authorization. So...calling a freeware program that can't be distributed illicitly (since it's...y'know, free) a bootleg is ignorant.

-Corey

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:12 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote: Djinn Buu...WELL, I listened to that podcast where they explained it, and it's basically a normal translation, just something different. As far as the M on his belt, well...that M is more the symbol of Babidi than Majin Buu the way I look at it. M for Madoshi or Master/Magician?

I say Djinn is fine too; the M does indeed stand for Madoshi I believe. If not why isn't anyone else called "majin"? Babidi doesn't call Vegeta "Majin Vegeta" he doesn't call Dabura "Majin Dabura" he doesn't call anyone Majin besides Buu. So I think Majin is just a descriptive term (magical being) and the M’s all stand for Madoshi,as in they are his property.

In regards to that whole bootleg term, it was real hot when I was in 4th or 5th grade but then everyone outgrew it and realized how stupid and confusing it sounds.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:14 pm

Living in New York (even though I'm about 4 hours from the city..) I've never heard "bootleg" used in that way.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:35 pm

Captain Awesome wrote: As for Viz, we don't need to worry about cropping and crappy colours, just a moronic and inconsistant editing standard and silly name translations.

Djinn Buu? Ick.

At least they're consistent on releasing the entire series.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:28 pm

Kendamu wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote: As for Viz, we don't need to worry about cropping and crappy colours, just a moronic and inconsistant editing standard and silly name translations.

Djinn Buu? Ick.
At least they're consistent on releasing the entire series.

You mean besides interrupting two different types of formats for the series before deciding on the "Shonen Jump"-branded version, and then having multiple printings with different censorings each time?

Just sayin'.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:36 pm

VegettoEX wrote:You mean besides interrupting two different types of formats for the series before deciding on the "Shonen Jump"-branded version, and then having multiple printings with different censorings each time?

Just sayin'.

Dammit, you beat me to the punch ;p

-Corey

ssgOverlord · Post by **ssgOverlord** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:02 am

Ah, thanks for getting the screen cap for comparing. Indeed while the colors are a little bright, they are not as bad as the previous seasons when you compare. Oh well, Funimation already has me sold on these anyway due to the price. (At least they are getting somewhat better)

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:05 am

VegettoEX wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote: As for Viz, we don't need to worry about cropping and crappy colours, just a moronic and inconsistant editing standard and silly name translations.

Djinn Buu? Ick.
At least they're consistent on releasing the entire series.
You mean besides interrupting two different types of formats for the series before deciding on the "Shonen Jump"-branded version, and then having multiple printings with different censorings each time?

Just sayin'.

I think we should be just as hard on Viz as we are with Funimation. I refuse to buy censored manga.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:58 am

This thread needs to be stickied since we have a billion dbox vs funi screenshot threads every year.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:24 am

VegettoEX wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
Captain Awesome wrote: As for Viz, we don't need to worry about cropping and crappy colours, just a moronic and inconsistant editing standard and silly name translations.

Djinn Buu? Ick.
At least they're consistent on releasing the entire series.
You mean besides interrupting two different types of formats for the series before deciding on the "Shonen Jump"-branded version, and then having multiple printings with different censorings each time?

Just sayin'.

Touche.

But at least they're actually getting around to the second full printing now.

As for "ZOMG CENSORED" I really don't mind blasters in a world of alien space fighting. That, and owning the Japanese version kind of means I have a choice between a little bit of censoring and usually very accurate English or uncensored in Japanese (a language I'm learning currently).

Not everyone's that lucky, but that's just where I'm personally coming from.

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:03 pm

Am I the only one that's not seeing half the pictures that SSJToreto posted on the 4th page? Just checking, because they were just posted yesterday.

Edit: Nevermind, they're back now!

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:23 pm

Kendamu wrote: At least they're consistent on releasing the entire series.

Oh don't get me wrong, I intend on purchasing the Viz big releases, and can't wait for their release, I just think their editing is completely devoid of logic (guns vs exploding cell junior heads for example) I'm just hoping to see no editing, or at least less.

And the Djinn thing to me isn't really valid as translating a name into a language other than English doesn't really make any sense in this case.

Vegerot is debatable, it at least has some logic behind it.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:44 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Well here in New York, anything that's crappy is called bootleg. I'm sorry if that offends you, I'll try to be politically correct from now on lol Okay, so I was just making a joke...but you know, that's the breaks.

Djinn Buu...WELL, I listened to that podcast where they explained it, and it's basically a normal translation, just something different. As far as the M on his belt, well...that M is more the symbol of Babidi than Majin Buu the way I look at it. M for Madoshi or Master/Magician?

You're right about that. Whenever we see something shitty, we just say "That's bootlegged!".[/b]

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:09 pm

A comparison between the "eye-catchers".

FUNi remastered

Dragon Box

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:45 pm

Not to sound like an ass, but the background color on the Dragon Box just looks weird. And the logo seems pretty blurry. The colors aren't as bright, but the skin colors look better I guess. Still the biggest thing that's better is that it's in Full screen lol

This was one of the first things I compared between FUNimation's single releases and the Remastered. Geez. They cut a huge chunk off. Unbelievable lol Ohs well

SSJToreto · Post by **SSJToreto** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:56 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Not to sound like an ass, but the background color on the Dragon Box just looks weird. And the logo seems pretty blurry. The colors aren't as bright, but the skin colors look better I guess. Still the biggest thing that's better is that it's in Full screen lol

This was one of the first things I compared between FUNimation's single releases and the Remastered. Geez. They cut a huge chunk off. Unbelievable lol Ohs well

I don't really care if you think a certain color is "weird" or not, it's the way it was actually meant to be seen, so why change it?

Oh, and if you'll notice the logo is blurred on both versions.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:10 pm

It wouldn't look weird if we saw the colors the right way in the first place.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:10 pm

A lot is blurred on both versions because I guess that's the way to edit them. I mean by blurring makes the grains less visible. And okay if it was the original colors fine. I'm not saying it's not the original colors, just looks weird. Didn't say looks good or bad.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:11 pm

I'm not going to lie, in the case of the eyecatchers Funi wins that round.