Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
GokuRules987 wrote:In terms of feats Friza had the best feats hands down. lifting an island, surviving a poink blank planet explosion while being heavily injured, flicking away planet vegeta which had 10x times the earth gravity with his finger and more.
What? He never even blew up a planet under his own power in the manga. Going by manga feats, the most impressive character by far would be Pure Majin Buu. He blew up Earth with an energy blast that could have destroyed a star.
The problem with your statement is that it has no feats too support that, the only thing that kid buu blew up was the earth and others nearby planets, one at a time.
In the manga goku never even said that kid buu had enough power to blow up the earth 10 times, it was just a filler dub.
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Kakarot9001 wrote:In the manga she is cleary older, pal...
Pan is like 4 and Bra is like 6 or 7
and do you ignore Daizenshuu?
Uhh, doesn't the Daizenshuu accidentally list 2 dates for Pan's birth? Either her or Bra. It's either a difference of one year or hardly one at all IIRC, but I could be wrong on that.
Lord Beerus wrote:Vegeta also had an insanely large ego and a Superiority Complex of epic proportions.
Sora Saiyan wrote:
Something I'm wondering about is the depiction of hell, I mean is it possible everybody has their own version of hell and the one we've seen with Freeza is his "hell"?
I'm thinking about this too. Its seems like this one is just for him but there's no confirmation.
I like the idea. Everyone have things they don't like. So being tortured by that, become their hell seems appropriate.
Goku's hell could be no food and only angry chichis and needles.
Toriyama still has some skills to make interesting things.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
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Sora Saiyan wrote:
Something I'm wondering about is the depiction of hell, I mean is it possible everybody has their own version of hell and the one we've seen with Freeza is his "hell"?
I'm thinking about this too. Its seems like this one is just for him but there's no confirmation.
I like the idea. Everyone have things they don't like. So being tortured by that, become their hell seems appropriate.
Goku's hell could be no food and only angry chichis and needles.
Toriyama still has some skills to make interesting things.
Is Freeza actually being tortured though? Someone suggested that showing all these good, cute things could actually be the literal process of purification of his soul. A process that we knew about from the manga but which we had never seen depicted.
Some of these images that you folks are talking about, in addition to being included to some degree on their website promoting the manga stuffage, primarily come from "V-Jump+" bonus unlockable material which we'll be detailing on the site shortly.
Toyotaro drew that? Man, he is incredibly talented. He has Toriyama's art style to a tee.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Some of these images that you folks are talking about, in addition to being included to some degree on their website promoting the manga stuffage, primarily come from "V-Jump+" bonus unlockable material which we'll be detailing on the site shortly.
Ya' know. The website. Here. At Kanzenshuu. With the website and all ^_~.
Do you guys plan to cover on Dragon Ball Heroes too? It has been a while since the last news about it.
Tyro wrote:Haven't we been talking about those plotholes for the past 10 pages? "Why does Freeza have a body in Hell?", "Why is Freeza resurrected in pieces?", "How can Freeza's power jump so much in 4 months?", "Why wasn't Freeza reincarnated?", etc, etc.
The only plot hole there is the first question, which can be interpreted as a retcon of low importance. The rest can be deduced easily or have yet to be answered.
I disagree but I don't care enough to fight about it until the movie comes out.
Kakarot9001 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:I said Kanzenshuu is the biggest news site. But it's definitely not the biggest forum in terms of members and active members. Also that's not a plot hole. Pan is older than Bra
No, Bra is older... Just see the manga and Daizenshuu
Y'know, instead of this "No, you're wrong!" "No, you are!" type of back-and-forth, you could elaborate in your posts and provide quotes and context.
SaiyaJedi wrote:A common question, with a simple answer and a convoluted background.
When the Daizenshuu series of guidebooks came out in Japan, the seventh (released in February 1996, a few days prior to the start of Dragon Ball GT) showed Pan as born in AGE 779, and Bra as born in AGE 780... in the main series timeline, that is. In their character biographies (in a separate part of the book), Pan was still listed as being born in AGE 779, but Bra was instead said to be born in AGE 778, creating a very confusing situation.
Since then, the situation has been more or less resolved, with all subsequent guidebooks coming down on the "Pan is older" side of the issue (mostly by dint of reproducing the timeline but not the biographies from Daizenshuu 7), but their respective character designs in Dragon Ball GT muddled things for the average viewer.
Battle of Gods is the first on-screen confirmation that Pan is indeed the older of the two.
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So it does appear that the image of Whis fighting Vegeta and Goku is indeed legitimate. Which probably implies what most already speculated, that Vegeta gained Godly Ki off-screen and both are training with Whis and Beerus.
Who could imagine that besides Ooishi Naho, he could serve as Akira's successor!
