"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sat May 07, 2016 10:36 am

It's nice to see a new face. It's also nice to see that Tate will be the animation supervisor for an episode with Gokuu fighting a copy of Vegeta. Hopefully they are working with other good animators.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sat May 07, 2016 11:50 am

It's always great to see some new blood! Also I'm REALLY happy Tate gets what seems like it will be the main fight of this little filler arc.

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Post by Wezenheim » Sat May 07, 2016 12:18 pm

So excited! A new face and Tate handling episode 45? This could end up being a very pleasant little downtime arc.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat May 07, 2016 6:31 pm

Tate has pretty much become a regular for Super, hasn't he? Not that I'm complaining at all. More Tate is always welcome.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Sat May 07, 2016 10:21 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Tate has pretty much become a regular for Super, hasn't he? Not that I'm complaining at all. More Tate is always welcome.
Tate's been a regular from the beginning.

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Post by raulvalente » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:21 pm

Can't wait to know the staff for the next episodes. The info usually appears by this time of the month, right?

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:17 pm

raulvalente wrote:Can't wait to know the staff for the next episodes. The info usually appears by this time of the month, right?
As early as hours from now, as late as this weekend.
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Post by Wezenheim » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:26 pm

Ootsuka Ken bought a book that I haven't seen before. I'm sure it isn't rare, but I think I missed the news for that one! Anyway, he also mentions something about Yamamuro I think?

Thought it might be fun to share!

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:41 pm

Wezenheim wrote:Ootsuka Ken bought a book that I haven't seen before. I'm sure it isn't rare, but I think I missed the news for that one! Anyway, he also mentions something about Yamamuro I think?

Thought it might be fun to share!
I think it is the Anime Comic.
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Post by DragonHermit » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:52 am

Anyone seen the "Endless Eight" arc from Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya? Was watching it the other day, and the fact that they wasted 8 episodes with brilliant animation for that, and we can't even get 1/3 of the quality for Super, was just like rubbing salt in my wounds.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:55 am

KyoAni only works on about 3 project a year (as far as I know); they're not strapped for time and resources like Toei is.

Also, I don't know if it'll help, but Endless 8 was disliked for its repetitiveness back when it was airing weekly ("Kyon-kun, denwa."). It had been a while since the original 1st season of Haruhi and everyone was worried/stunned at the theory that they could "waste" 8 of their 12 or 13 episodes of season 2 doing the same episode. I don't know if it was a factor or not, but after the Haruhi movie, KyoAni never went back to animate any more Haruhi light novels. Even that Yuki spin-off that came out a year or so ago was done by a different animation company and not KyoAni.

Personally, I don't recall being overly frustrated during Endless 8; it was more a surreal guessing game to me than anything else.
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Post by DragonHermit » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:03 am

Chuquita wrote:KyoAni only works on about 3 project a year (as far as I know); they're not strapped for time and resources like Toei is.

Also, I don't know if it'll help, but Endless 8 was disliked for its repetitiveness back when it was airing weekly ("Kyon-kun, denwa."). It had been a while since the original 1st season of Haruhi and everyone was worried/stunned at the theory that they could "waste" 8 of their 12 or 13 episodes of season 2 doing the same episode. I don't know if it was a factor or not, but after the Haruhi movie, KyoAni never went back to animate any more Haruhi light novels. Even that Yuki spin-off that came out a year or so ago was done by a different animation company and not KyoAni.
Not surprised it was hated, but that just adds to my point. Some companies have the luxury of doing that kinda stuff, and we can't even fix Vegeta's nose on a still frame :cry:

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Post by alakazam^ » Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:41 am

Wezenheim wrote:Ootsuka Ken bought a book that I haven't seen before. I'm sure it isn't rare, but I think I missed the news for that one! Anyway, he also mentions something about Yamamuro I think?

Thought it might be fun to share!
That's the Anime Comic.

He bought it to study Yamamuro's designs since Dragon Ball's drawing style changes over time and the standard today is his.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:40 am

alakazam^ wrote:
Wezenheim wrote:Ootsuka Ken bought a book that I haven't seen before. I'm sure it isn't rare, but I think I missed the news for that one! Anyway, he also mentions something about Yamamuro I think?

Thought it might be fun to share!
That's the Anime Comic.

He bought it to study Yamamuro's designs since Dragon Ball's drawing style changes over time and the standard today is his.
That definitely makes it sound like he's going to work on some more Super episodes!

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Post by coola » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:28 am

DragonHermit wrote:Anyone seen the "Endless Eight" arc from Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya? Was watching it the other day, and the fact that they wasted 8 episodes with brilliant animation for that, and we can't even get 1/3 of the quality for Super, was just like rubbing salt in my wounds.
Briilliant animation might be result of using their own cast of writers, animators etc., like they said in this video, cast know each other very well, and know how to animate such scene, or how to drawn it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPzeO5iPJ4M Really lokking forward for 2nd season of Hibike! Euphonium this fall :)
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Wezenheim » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:46 pm

alakazam^ wrote:
Wezenheim wrote:Ootsuka Ken bought a book that I haven't seen before. I'm sure it isn't rare, but I think I missed the news for that one! Anyway, he also mentions something about Yamamuro I think?

Thought it might be fun to share!
That's the Anime Comic.

He bought it to study Yamamuro's designs since Dragon Ball's drawing style changes over time and the standard today is his.
Ah okay, thanks a lot! It seemed like he was saying something like that, but I didn't want to go off of Google translate at all. I figured the book was probably an anime comic or something of the sort, but I didn't know one existed for 'F'! Interesting to know.
ArchedThunder wrote:That definitely makes it sound like he's going to work on some more Super episodes!
I was thinking the same thing, but I also think he would've tried to come back anyway! He seems to really enjoy the franchise, and if I remember correctly he even tweeted a while ago that he was excited to see Future Trunks return. I'd love to see him provide some key animation for this arc, hopefully with some decent time. Even his repeat frames are nice!

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:29 pm

Wezenheim wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:That definitely makes it sound like he's going to work on some more Super episodes!
I was thinking the same thing, but I also think he would've tried to come back anyway! He seems to really enjoy the franchise, and if I remember correctly he even tweeted a while ago that he was excited to see Future Trunks return. I'd love to see him provide some key animation for this arc, hopefully with some decent time. Even his repeat frames are nice!
His repeating frame clashes are better than anyone else's on the show, that's for sure. If the Future Trunks arc is going to do what they've been doing recently and just throw shit tons of staff on every episode I wouldn't mind seeing him do like one cut every couple episodes, it'd be better than getting a couple cuts rarely and him being rushed on those.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:40 am

I finally finished Episode #46. The preview for Episode #47 looks like it will have some cool work from Tate Naoki. I hope he isn't he only good animator working on the episode.
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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:24 pm

Kaizawa Yukio is storyboarding and directing Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Crystal Episode #37. Don't expect to see him return to Dragon Ball Super for a while.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:36 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Kaizawa Yukio is storyboarding and directing Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Crystal Episode #37. Don't expect to see him return to Dragon Ball Super for a while.
At least Crystal isn't going to go on that much longer. It's only 13 total I think.
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