Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[Herms]

So I don't want to know the spoiler on how it was done if it was done, but can anyone tell me if King Kai's planet being back is explained in any way in the movie?

It's never explained. In fact, they even mention the "Kaio's planet is small because Beers destroyed it" backstory from the full color comics Q&A. So we can't even say that he just bought a new one or something, because then it wouldn't be the remains of the original bigger planet that Beers blew up, so saying "it's only small because you destroyed it" wouldn't make sense. Unless Kaio had a spare fragment of his original bigger planet made into a smaller planet, but in that case why wouldn't he be living there in the Boo arc?

Also, for some reason in the movie Beers is said to have destroyed Kaio's planet due to getting mad after losing at hide-and-seek, rather than at a racing video game like in the full color comic explanation.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Hmm, still curious. Do we have any indication at where Birusu lives in our Dragon Ball Cosmos Ball yet? Is this addressed in the film at all, or do I need to hope it gets a mention in a guidebook down the road?

[Chuquita]

Re: Slaps
I also care about him defending her after that. I think it's really cool that there's an emotionally-charged B/V moment in the movie.

[VyeRo]

I can't wait to see Vegetas face when he see's that. Surely I'm not the only one who cares about him defending his woman more than his power up, right?

Nope. I think it's great that we have a B/V moment in the movie, because really, what were the odds? I just hope he manages to hit Bills just once. I know he won't inflict any significant damage but a good punch would be nice.

And Bulma slaps Bills first? For ruining her party? Girl knows no fear.

[Herms]

Hmm, still curious. Do we have any indication at where Birusu lives in our Dragon Ball Cosmos Ball yet? Is this addressed in the film at all, or do I need to hope it gets a mention in a guidebook down the road?

It doesn't seem to be addressed. I guess we can assume that it's somewhere within the Seventh Universe, which isn't too helpful, especially since the movie doesn't really clarify the nature of these "universes". We just know that 1) Goku and co. live in the Seventh Universe, 2) Beers is the God of Destruction for the Seventh Universe, 3) there are twelve universes in total, 4) Beers thinks there may be guys stronger than him and Whis out there in the other universes, but he doesn't seem to know for sure.

To be really nitpicky, it doesn't seem that they even specify that there are twelve Gods of Destruction. It's probably a safe bet, but for all we know there may be some universes without a God of Destruction or some with more than one, making the exact total not an even twelve.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Beers thinks there may be guys stronger than him and Whis out there in the other universes, but he doesn't seem to know for sure.

That's very interesting. Another hint for Goku fighting guys from other Universes in the upcoming adventures.

It's never explained. In fact, they even mention the "Kaio's planet is small because Beers destroyed it" backstory from the full color comics Q&A. So we can't even say that he just bought a new one or something, because then it wouldn't be the remains of the original bigger planet that Beers blew up, so saying "it's only small because you destroyed it" wouldn't make sense. Unless Kaio had a spare fragment of his original bigger planet made into a smaller planet, but in that case why wouldn't he be living there in the Boo arc?

My head canon is that Goku wished Kaio's Planet back with the Dragon Ball as a present.

[B]

AKira Toriyama brief interview!Year 2008/2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf7UYj_AX6M

If that's him and that's the actual year, he looks really good. Occasionally, people will talk as if he could drop any moment.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It doesn't seem to be addressed. I guess we can assume that it's somewhere within the Seventh Universe, which isn't too helpful, especially since the movie doesn't really clarify the nature of these "universes".

Hmm, hopefully it's explained later on then. I noticed the Movie Guide has a little section dedicated to locations in it thanks to the FullpowerDBZ image (fourth column, third row) ; maybe there is a minor tidbit there or if not, then hopefully in the Chozenshu.


http://fullpowerdbz.com/home/news/movie-guide-big.png

[omegalucas]

My head canon is that Goku wished Kaio's Planet back with the Dragon Ball as a present.

That actually could explain why Pilaf (apparently) could only get one wish when he summoned Shenlong. I'm gonna take that as my personal canon as well-

[JulieYBM]

Wow, I think Yamamuro just traced over his designs from the 1990s for Gokuu. That or he busted his ass trying to draw the same exact positions.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I hope I'll get an answer, but does Goku say that Vegeta surpassed him because he got angry, or he was just stronger than him?

Goku himself doesn't actually say Vegeta surpassed him. During the scene itself Kame-sennin says Vegeta seems to have surpassed Goku. Then at the end of the movie, Goku tells Vegeta that he became an "incredible Super Saiyan" back when Beers slapped Bulma, and that the next time they're up against some nasty opponent they should just have their enemy hit Bulma. This is when Piccolo says Goku must have been watching back during that fight, and everyone gets mad at him for not helping out then.

Great! Now everything makes sense. Vegeta didn't necessarily become stronger because he got angry. He seems to have surpassed SS3 Goku through training with his Super Saiyan 2 (he was a Super Saiyan 2 according to Dragon Ball Heroes), so this leads me to believe that Vegeta focused in surpassing Goku in Super Saiyan 2, rather than focusing himself to reach Super Saiyan 3, a flawed form. And he succeed (only for Goku reaching Super Saiyan God). The line about Bulma getting hit sounds like a joke, so Vegeta didn't get stronger because he got angry IMO, he got stronger because he trained. Everything makes sense now!

Vegeta would have to be a dedicated mother f***er to surpass Goku with just Ssj2. I might prefer this explanation to be honest. This seems more Vegeta.

[SaiyaJedi]

Is there any recent picture of the creator himself? I mean Akira Toriyama. Would love to see how he looks like now. There has to be one somewhere right? Since he was involved after all.

This looks to be circa 2003, for the American Shonen Jump launch event. (SandLand is advertised in the background, on what appears to be the cover art for the first issue.)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/50055070.png/

It's from fullpowerdbz.com

Well, it's from the current issue of DVD & Blu-Ray Vision (released on 21 March). I guess the scans of it are from that site, though.

I hope someone is going to translate this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... i-LMU88LOM

I've actually already translated the Q&A based on the work of an acquaintance live-blogging the show, but it's nice to have the actual footage for reference. Now I can finish it up.

AKira Toriyama brief interview!Year 2008/2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf7UYj_AX6M

I doubt that it's anywhere near that recent. Aside from the fact that it appears to have been transferred from videotape, just look at the fashions! Toriyama also appears to be younger than in the above picture, which is itself 10 years old.

What makes you think it's from then?

[fogdark]

Great! Now everything makes sense. Vegeta didn't necessarily become stronger because he got angry. He seems to have surpassed SS3 Goku through training with his Super Saiyan 2 (he was a Super Saiyan 2 according to Dragon Ball Heroes), so this leads me to believe that Vegeta focused in surpassing Goku in Super Saiyan 2, rather than focusing himself to reach Super Saiyan 3, a flawed form. And he succeed (only for Goku reaching Super Saiyan God). The line about Bulma getting hit sounds like a joke, so Vegeta didn't get stronger because he got angry IMO, he got stronger because he trained. Everything makes sense now!

If that were the case, then Vegeta would have fought the entire battle like that, but if I remember correctly, he only surpassed Goku for a moment.
I suppose it's one of the shonen tropes at work, "the power of feelings" that sometimes appear on stories. A trope which the manga Fairy Tail, for example, uses a lot. A LOT.
Vegeta saw Bulma get hurt, and his feelings enabled him to reach for strength he didn't previously had, momentarily. It doesn't have any logic behind it and it never will. But that's how it is. Perhaps it could be explained as untapped potential, or something like that, but I really don't think there's any explanation behind it. For now at least.

[elyas11]

Sorry I couldn't resist after finding out Vegeta said he wants to be the SSJG the next time it's needed...

[TheMightyOzaru]

Dude... Vegeta with blue hair is AWESOME!

[Draken]

Vegeta would have to be a dedicated mother f***er to surpass Goku with just Ssj2. I might prefer this explanation to be honest. This seems more Vegeta.

I still find it night impossible to believe that Vegeta got over 40x stronger (if SSJ3 Goku got finger flicked away, Vegeta better be at least 10x stronger than that to "hold his own") than Goku's base in those few years from his training.

[Chuquita]

Re: Blue ssjg hair

That's the same guess I have for what colors he'd get as a ssjg (blue). X3
I like it!

[TheMightyOzaru]

Vegeta would have to be a dedicated mother f***er to surpass Goku with just Ssj2. I might prefer this explanation to be honest. This seems more Vegeta.

I still find it night impossible to believe that Vegeta got over 40x stronger (if SSJ3 Goku got finger flicked away, Vegeta better be at least 10x stronger than that to "hold his own") than Goku's base in those few years from his training.

Vegeta only has to be roughly more than 4x stronger to surpass Ssj3 Goku at Ssj2. It's not too farfetched with how dedicated Vegeta is.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Re: Blue ssjg hair

That's the same guess I have for what colors he'd get as a ssjg (blue). X3
I like it!

Personally, I prefer the opposite colors since it would remove any hint of Goku's Kaioken look. xD
It also plays off their hair color highlights in the anime, as Goku is often depicted with blue highlights and Vegeta is given redder ones.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I think it makes more sense for Vegeta to run the blue and for Goku to run the red.