Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon" Set

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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon"

Post by Dr. Machismo » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:42 am

Not excited by this. It would have been cooler if they released sets of the 2000-2003 Ocean dub.
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Post by Hujio » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:40 am

Metalwario64 wrote:Though I've noticed they were taken with VLC, and the bottom row of pixels are all blue.
The bottom row of pixels in the screen shot isn't blue. The blue line is there because the image has been linked; it's an underline applied by the forum.

In regards to the screenshot itself, all I know is the pixelation and blurriness really hurts my eyes...
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:11 pm

VLC has messed up a lot of my dvd's video quality. Perhaps it's a codec problem. Could you take a screen shot on another video player as well? I like the colors, but if the set has that many artifacts and pixilization, I might skip it for now.

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Post by samuraix123 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:22 pm

Found this on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DW-i6NbPEI also, It is confirmed that the movies are edited right?
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Post by YamiAtomsk » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:19 pm

samuraix123 wrote:Found this on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DW-i6NbPEI also, It is confirmed that the movies are edited right?
Just got mine a bit ago.

Just popped in the movie disc and started Tree of Might up.

It started out with Rock the Dragon, has a replacement score and a weird episode title with a CGI tree.

So I'm guessing it's edited.

Also the booklet has a reference to Battle of Gods in a timeline.

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Post by CashmanX » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:47 pm

samuraix123 wrote:Found this on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DW-i6NbPEI also, It is confirmed that the movies are edited right?

Where did Funimation get all of that kickass art all of a sudden? I wish they would have used some of those earlier for the Kai releases. :o
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:34 pm

I'm kinda disappointed that the art for it is so recent and Kai-ified. It's not particularly iconic for this release... in that it's not at all iconic or representative of it. I would have loved them to dip back into some of the art Pioneer was using at the time for the VHS releases.

Also, no-one ever asked ME to write a foreward or record a commentary track or anything... *shakes fist*
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:41 pm

VegettoEX wrote:I'm kinda disappointed that the art for it is so recent and Kai-ified. It's not particularly iconic for this release... in that it's not at all iconic or representative of it. I would have loved them to dip back into some of the art Pioneer was using at the time for the VHS releases.
Hell, that'd be a good thing they could have put in the book (that I'm assuming isn't anyway), a gallery of all the old VHS/DVD covers from this era of the show's release. Complete with a release date tacked under the pictures.

Or maybe I'm the only one who's a sucker for those kinds of galleries. :P
Also, no-one ever asked ME to write a foreward or record a commentary track or anything... *shakes fist*
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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:32 pm

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Metalwario64 wrote:Though I've noticed they were taken with VLC, and the bottom row of pixels are all blue.
The bottom row of pixels in the screen shot isn't blue. The blue line is there because the image has been linked; it's an underline applied by the forum.

In regards to the screenshot itself, all I know is the pixelation and blurriness really hurts my eyes...
Thanks! After he said it wasn't the image, I thought it might have something to do with the way it was displayed on the site.

Also yeah, it messes with my eyes too. The edge enhancement is bad (why would FUNi go back to using this?), and the random areas that look out of focus strain my eyes. As a result, I'm happy with my Pioneer singles, especially since I need only pay about $15 to complete the series, as opposed to $80 for it all. I know I've paid about $60 or so overall on my singles, and maybe $80 counting the movies, but that's because they're old releases spread out through many discs, so shipping added up.

I don't think a re-release of edited material after all of these years and dirt cheap releases like the Orange Bricks being available throughout should have a $100 MSRP...
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:47 pm

So, now that this is out I can safely say this release is garbage. FUNimation, why did you think this was worthwhile over a release of Dragon Box the Movies or a Dragon Ball Dragon Box. Just like most of the people who were interested and then weren't, if the movies were uncut, I'd buy it for the better encodes, but they're edited. This release as a whole is garbage.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:54 pm

I do feel this release is a little confused as to what group it's trying to cater to. Not substantially so but a little bit. If we're trying to "party like it's 1996," well, that's before Toonami, so why isn't movie 3 in its 3-episode form like how it was originally presented on TV? Or why does it even have "Escape from Piccolo," which was totally skipped over in 1996 due to its "objectionable content"?

But if we're trying to recapture the exact Toonami experience, how come the first 3 episodes have all those lines about death that were edited long before it ever got to air on Toonami?

And if we're trying to do a better re-release of what was already on home video, why are the movies edited at all?

So it is a bit of a confused cluster of different things, and I would have preferred a modicum of consistency. But it does seem to be presented very well. I just watched the "nice package" video that was linked to, and I do have to object to the presenter's claim that this is the first time a FUNimation release has included "Rock the Dragon." That's just flat-out wrong. Even if we discount the Pioneer releases of FUNimation's work, that still leaves nearly all of season 3's VHS and DVD singles using that theme.
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Post by YamiAtomsk » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:12 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:So, now that this is out I can safely say this release is garbage. FUNimation, why did you think this was worthwhile over a release of Dragon Box the Movies or a Dragon Ball Dragon Box. Just like most of the people who were interested and then weren't, if the movies were uncut, I'd buy it for the better encodes, but they're edited. This release as a whole is garbage.
1. Funimation already had the rights to this content. It doesn't cost them anything to release it.

2. The movies have been released uncut numerous times.

3. There was never an uncut Ocean Dub so of-course it's edited.

Seriously did you completely miss the point of this release?

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:15 pm

YamiAtomsk wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:So, now that this is out I can safely say this release is garbage. FUNimation, why did you think this was worthwhile over a release of Dragon Box the Movies or a Dragon Ball Dragon Box. Just like most of the people who were interested and then weren't, if the movies were uncut, I'd buy it for the better encodes, but they're edited. This release as a whole is garbage.
1. Funimation already had the rights to this content. It doesn't cost them anything to release it.

2. The movies have been released uncut numerous times.

3. There was never an uncut Ocean Dub so of-course it's edited.

Seriously did you completely miss the point of this release?
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Post by ABED » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:30 pm

ONLY the first three films were released Uncut. What is with you and this release? You can't get over it, at all.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:32 pm

ABED wrote:ONLY the first three films were released Uncut. What is with you and this release? You can't get over it, at all.
Because it's a pretty stupid release. Like, it's 2013. Now FUNimation is all "Let's release something based solely on nostalgia." That just doesn't seem like a good release at all. Also I mentioned in that initial post that the uncut video I was talking about was of the first 3 movies so there's no reason to get confused about that.
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Post by ABED » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:34 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:
ABED wrote:ONLY the first three films were released Uncut. What is with you and this release? You can't get over it, at all.
Because it's a pretty stupid release. Like, it's 2013. Now FUNimation is all "Let's release something based solely on nostalgia." That just doesn't seem like a good release at all. Also I mentioned in that initial post that the uncut video I was talking about was of the first 3 movies so there's no reason to get confused about that.
If you can make money with a nostalgic release, why not?
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:37 pm

ABED wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:
ABED wrote:ONLY the first three films were released Uncut. What is with you and this release? You can't get over it, at all.
Because it's a pretty stupid release. Like, it's 2013. Now FUNimation is all "Let's release something based solely on nostalgia." That just doesn't seem like a good release at all. Also I mentioned in that initial post that the uncut video I was talking about was of the first 3 movies so there's no reason to get confused about that.
If you can make money with a nostalgic release, why not?
Yeah, but it's not going to make as much money as a release of the movies would. Because the nostalgic market is even smaller than the market who bought the Dragon Boxes.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:39 pm

ABED wrote:If you can make money with a nostalgic release, why not?
Agreed. Hell, some companies make a pretty good profit with that being their ENTIRE mode of operations practically (IE Shout Factory, Discotek, etc.).

I guess for completion's sake, it would have been cool of them to include the uncut and edited versions of the movies, but really, most of the nostalgia factor of this release would be for the cast, not whether it's cut or not, I'd think.

...Which actually reminds me, the set is entirely dub only, right? I figure as much between edits and there being no need for the original on this release, but I haven't seen it said for sure yet.
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Post by ABED » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:41 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:Because it's a pretty stupid release. Like, it's 2013. Now FUNimation is all "Let's release something based solely on nostalgia." That just doesn't seem like a good release at all. Also I mentioned in that initial post that the uncut video I was talking about was of the first 3 movies so there's no reason to get confused about that.

Yeah, but it's not going to make as much money as a release of the movies would. Because the nostalgic market is even smaller than the market who bought the Dragon Boxes.
Are you Carnac? Do you have access to FUNi's financial forecasts? How do you know what would make more money? Perhaps it's possible that they could buy both? It's not like those movies haven't been released numerous times before.
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Re: Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon"

Post by ShadowDude112 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:43 pm

ABED wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:Because it's a pretty stupid release. Like, it's 2013. Now FUNimation is all "Let's release something based solely on nostalgia." That just doesn't seem like a good release at all. Also I mentioned in that initial post that the uncut video I was talking about was of the first 3 movies so there's no reason to get confused about that.

Yeah, but it's not going to make as much money as a release of the movies would. Because the nostalgic market is even smaller than the market who bought the Dragon Boxes.
Are you Carnac? Do you have access to FUNi's financial forecasts? How do you know what would make more money? Perhaps it's possible that they could buy both? It's not like those movies haven't been released numerous times before.
Yes I am Carnac and I do indeed have access to FUNi's financial forecasts. This release was below the Dragon Boxes in terms of profit.
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