Dragon Ball Online Original Story

[Citrinate]

Doesn't it say that it was Vegeta who realized he was reaching the rapidly-ageing process and then wished him and Goku off to another planet?

No. It makes no mention at all of the Dragon Balls there and says something along the lines of "He realizes his Saiyan death is near". It says "he" right after it mentions Goku and before it mentions Vegeta so it's pretty obvious that the "he" here is Goku.

[Castor Troy]

Doesn't it say that it was Vegeta who realized he was reaching the rapidly-ageing process and then wished him and Goku off to another planet?

No. It makes no mention at all of the Dragon Balls there and says something along the lines of "He realizes his Saiyan death is near". It says "he" right after it mentions Goku and before it mentions Vegeta so it's pretty obvious that the "he" here is Goku.

They could have used the dragonballs to wish for their youth back.

[rereboy]

Doesn't it say that it was Vegeta who realized he was reaching the rapidly-ageing process and then wished him and Goku off to another planet?

No. It makes no mention at all of the Dragon Balls there and says something along the lines of "He realizes his Saiyan death is near". It says "he" right after it mentions Goku and before it mentions Vegeta so it's pretty obvious that the "he" here is Goku.

They could have used the dragonballs to wish for their youth back.

Why? They know for a fact that there is a pretty nice afterlife waiting for them (Vegeta is truly good by then) and since they saved the universe they will even keep their bodies and will be able to train just as much as they want.
Also, when their family`s members die they see and "live" with them in the afterlife.

I don`t see much of a point in trying to cheat death by using the Dragon Balls in these circumstances.

[Citrinate]

They could have used the dragonballs to wish for their youth back.

Why? They know for a fact that there is a pretty nice afterlife waiting for them (Vegeta is truly good by then) and since they saved the universe they will even keep their bodies and will be able to train just as much as they want.
Also, when their family`s members die they see and "live" with them in the afterlife.

I don`t see much of a point in trying to cheat death by using the Dragon Balls in these circumstances.

In addition, it would completely go against Goku's attitude of wanting the new generation to be able to manage without him. Might also be able to argue that Vegeta has the same hopes for the Human race.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Why? They know for a fact that there is a pretty nice afterlife waiting for them (Vegeta is truly good by then) and since they saved the universe they will even keep their bodies and will be able to train just as much as they want.
Also, when their family`s members die they see and "live" with them in the afterlife.

I don`t see much of a point in trying to cheat death by using the Dragon Balls in these circumstances.

They shouldn't keep their bodies. You only get to keep your body if you sacrifice your life in order to save the planet, like Goku did with Cell, or you have a deal to train with a god. If Goku and Vegeta die in a battle, that's hardly saving the planet, is it? And they don't need to train with a god, since they're the strongest things in the universe by this point anyway.

They'll probably keep their bodies regardless though, because Enma will probably bend the rules from them, like when he reincarnated Boo as Oob, a fighter, just because Goku wished so. And he gave Vegeta's body back and sent him down to Earth, even though it's not his responsibility and higher gods aren't supposed to interfere in insignificant planets' troubles, especially a god who just judges who gets to go to Heaven or Hell. I guess he just couldn't be arsed to deal with more dead people, what with the shit he went through judging the almost six billion dead people from Earth.

I don't think they'd want to use the Dragon Balls to wish their youth back just so they could live longer. That'd be like wishing for immortality, and that's a selfish wish that only villains desire. Goku and Vegeta don't seem to be that afraid of death, and it would go against Goku's plan of having the next generation being able to take care of the Earth after him. Totally ignoring the fact that both his sons aren't interested in fighting, by the way.

[rereboy]

They shouldn't keep their bodies. You only get to keep your body if you sacrifice your life in order to save the planet, like Goku did with Cell, or you have a deal to train with a god.

They risked their lives to save the universe. In the case of Vegeta he even risked his very existence (because Buu could kill him a second time, making him cease to exist). And they did save the universe (and the gods). And they are good people. If that is not enough to make you have a body in the afterlife, I don`t know what is.

[Piccolo Daimao]

They shouldn't keep their bodies. You only get to keep your body if you sacrifice your life in order to save the planet, like Goku did with Cell, or you have a deal to train with a god.

They risked their lives to save the universe. In the case of Vegeta he even risked his very existence (because Buu could kill him a second time, making him cease to exist). And they did save the universe (and the gods). And they are good people. If that is not enough to make you have a body in the afterlife, I don`t know what is.

Only Goku sacrificed his life to save the planet, and that was against Cell. And so when they come back to life, they should get the same privilege again when they kill themselves fighting each other? The rule is you have to sacrifice your life to save a planet if you want to get the body-dealio. Vegeta risked his existence against Boo, but he didn't die, and even if he did, his death would've had to in turn save the planet/universe. It doesn't matter if they're good people. Goku said regular people don't get to keep their bodies in the afterlife. Even if you're a great guy like the Dalai Lama or Nelson Mandela, you won't get to keep your body in the afterlife.

[Herms]

The rule is you have to sacrifice your life to save a planet if you want to get the body-dealio.

That's not the rule though. Goku just says that he was given special treatment and allowed to keep his body because he saved the Earth, among other things (the way its phrased in Japanese implies that saving the Earth was just one of the things he did to earn a body), but there's nothing said about that being the only reason one could get to keep their body in the afterlife. There's almost certainly other things you can do to qualify for a body, otherwise Grandpa Gohan wouldn't have gotten to keep his.

[Piccolo Daimao]

The rule is you have to sacrifice your life to save a planet if you want to get the body-dealio.

That's not the rule though. Goku just says that he was given special treatment and allowed to keep his body because he saved the Earth, among other things (the way its phrased in Japanese implies that saving the Earth was just one of the things he did to earn a body), but there's nothing said about that being the only reason one could get to keep their body in the afterlife. There's almost certainly other things you can do to qualify for a body, otherwise Grandpa Gohan wouldn't have gotten to keep his.

Oh. I thought in the manga it said that Goku was allowed to keep his body because he saved the planet. Maybe I'm remembering wrong or it's different in the original.

As for Grandpa Gohan, are we really so sure he kept his body? Yes, he had a body when he returned to Earth for a day, but obviously you can't go floating around as a soul in the living world, so I would assume everyone, soul or not, would have a body upon returning to Earth. And anyway, it's likely that Toriyama hadn't ironed out his rules for the afterlife yet.

[Senzu_Bean]

It is unbelievable how people keep bitching about minimum things.

Anyway, this is truly neat. At last since idk how arc characters are actually doing something with their lives besides training for no results. The Majin Buu stuff is definitely the best. Now this is what Dragonball is.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

The rule is you have to sacrifice your life to save a planet if you want to get the body-dealio.

That's not the rule though. Goku just says that he was given special treatment and allowed to keep his body because he saved the Earth, among other things (the way its phrased in Japanese implies that saving the Earth was just one of the things he did to earn a body), but there's nothing said about that being the only reason one could get to keep their body in the afterlife. There's almost certainly other things you can do to qualify for a body, otherwise Grandpa Gohan wouldn't have gotten to keep his.

Hey, did any of the guides say anything about Grandpa Gohan keeping his body? I wonder what the reason was... Maybe because he was trained by Kame-Sennin, and therefore knew his sister Baba?

[Piccolo Daimao]

The rule is you have to sacrifice your life to save a planet if you want to get the body-dealio.

That's not the rule though. Goku just says that he was given special treatment and allowed to keep his body because he saved the Earth, among other things (the way its phrased in Japanese implies that saving the Earth was just one of the things he did to earn a body), but there's nothing said about that being the only reason one could get to keep their body in the afterlife. There's almost certainly other things you can do to qualify for a body, otherwise Grandpa Gohan wouldn't have gotten to keep his.

Hey, did any of the guides say anything about Grandpa Gohan keeping his body? I wonder what the reason was... Maybe because he was trained by Kame-Sennin, and therefore knew his sister Baba?

IF Grandpa Gohan kept his body in Heaven, then it would likely be because he had a deal with Baba, the sister of his mentor Kame-sennin. Just like how Piccolo and the others had a deal with God to restore their bodies so they could train with Kaio.

[Jaruka]

Could the ages of Vegeta and Goku give us some insight into when Saiyans start to lose their youth and rapidly age?

Because I doubt they'd want to fight after they started ageing

[Piccolo Daimao]

Could the ages of Vegeta and Goku give us some insight into when Saiyans start to lose their youth and rapidly age?

Because I doubt they'd want to fight after they started ageing

Goku is 63 and Vegeta is 69 when they disappear and have their final battle, but they are physically 57 and 71 respectively. So I would assume that the rapid ageing process would kick in when they're in the early seventies.

[Rocketman]

No. It makes no mention at all of the Dragon Balls there and says something along the lines of "He realizes his Saiyan death is near". It says "he" right after it mentions Goku and before it mentions Vegeta so it's pretty obvious that the "he" here is Goku.

I like how it's Goku who 'senses' it and not Vegeta, who's older, knows about how long a Saiyan lives, and was the one to introduce that factoid.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

AH!!! And DBGT don´t exist in the manga.

Neither does Online.

[HECTOR4]

AH!!! And DBGT don´t exist in the manga.

Neither does Online.

DBO is the oficial continuation of the manga. This oficial image (and many interviews) confirms this:



age 749-784 (COMIC AGE)

And from there continues.

Aaaaand...The new rumor talk that Toriyama will continue the manga of DB based on DBO.

However, DBGT was conceived as a sequel to the anime and based only on anime. Never said that DBGT is a continuation of manga. Because it is impossible to be a continuation of the manga.

NOTE: Sorry for my bad english U_U

[Herms]

Oh. I thought in the manga it said that Goku was allowed to keep his body because he saved the planet. Maybe I'm remembering wrong or it's different in the original.

Yes, Goku does say that, but like I said, just because Goku got to keep his body that way doesn't necessarily mean that saving a planet is the only way anyone can get to keep their body. And Goku implies that saving the Earth was just one of several things he did to earn his body.

Hey, did any of the guides say anything about Grandpa Gohan keeping his body? I wonder what the reason was... Maybe because he was trained by Kame-Sennin, and therefore knew his sister Baba?

I don't think there's any explanation. I always just figured it was based on his status as a legendary martial artist on Earth. Maybe I'm letting the afterlife tournament filler influence my thinking, but Goku does mention in the manga after the Cell Games that the afterlife is filled with martial arts masters from the past, so I think being a good martial artist counts for something when these bodies are being handed out. Of course, Grandpa Gohan isn't that strong in the grand scheme of things, but maybe they grade on a curve?

There's also the Great Elder. His body vanished when he died, just like Goku's did after the Raditz fight, so he probably got to keep his body in the afterlife too. Unless he got absorbed into the Force or something.

[B]

Maybe I'm letting the afterlife tournament filler influence my thinking, but Goku does mention in the manga after the Cell Games that the afterlife is filled with martial arts masters from the past, so I think being a good martial artist counts for something when these bodies are being handed out. Of course, Grandpa Gohan isn't that strong in the grand scheme of things, but maybe they grade on a curve?

Well, you could dive a bit deeper and make note of how ungodly strong Goku is, so much so he states he can't fuse with anyone in Heaven when explaining it to Dende and Popo. I'd bet Goku is the outlier in the whole "keep a body" mess, as most people as strong as him are villains who wouldn't get a body.

[Rocketman]

Was it ever said why Trunks is 'time patrol'? The dude singlehandedly fucked up the timeline so bad even the best of Daizex's sperglords can't untangle it.