Moments FUNimation's English Dub Did Better?

[penguintruth]

SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT... MEGA MAN!

[Rocketman]

But when there's wall to wall music or random rambling at moments framed for silence, it completely crushes the impact of what you're watching unfold.

Gohan has no impact.

[penguintruth]

But when there's wall to wall music or random rambling at moments framed for silence, it completely crushes the impact of what you're watching unfold.

Gohan has no impact.

To you, perhaps. He has plenty to me. Especially in that scene.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

As if the guy who exists on this board solely just to slam the Japanese version at any opening because the dub music wasn't put on the Dragon Boxes has any room to call others out on "mental gymnastics," whatever the hell that is.

Firstly, jjgp seldom talks shit about the Japanese version. He just says he prefers the dub a lot. That's not "bashing" the Japanese version. Secondly, "mental gymnastics" means making an unreasonable stretch to form a conclusion. Which you clearly did.

[obiwan23s]

As if the guy who exists on this board solely just to slam the Japanese version at any opening because the dub music wasn't put on the Dragon Boxes has any room to call others out on "mental gymnastics," whatever the hell that is.

Firstly, jjgp seldom talks shit about the Japanese version. He just says he prefers the dub a lot. That's not "bashing" the Japanese version. Secondly, "mental gymnastics" means making an unreasonable stretch to form a conclusion. Which you clearly did.

I wouldn't call it unreasonable at all. DBZ AMVs use music that does not appear in the original show itself in an effort to make the hodgepodge of clips it plays over more entertaining. The DBZ dub used music that does not appear in the original show itself because the people producing the dub thought the original music wasn't good enough to hold the attention of their "a nine year old is born every day" audience. As far as my comments to jjgp, I'm sure he can defend himself, I've just caught on to his shtick of going into threads where people talk about certain aspects of the original version being better and then going full force with the "FUNimation couldn't have done that scene any better in their dub, the voice actors deserve twenty figure paychecks and multiple Oscar nominations for their work, and Faulconer composed a masterful piece for that scene which should have won three Grammys" comments. Although those comments aren't nearly as elaborately explained and often include indulgent usage of F-bombs. Did I miss anything or did I unreasonably stretch that conclusion too?

[Tsukento]

The ocean dub music was just awful in general. They just should played the Mega Man cartoon theme.

Didn't they actually play an instrumental of the Mega Man cartoon theme at one point? I thought I saw a YouTube video of the Ocean dub where an instrumental of the theme was playing, and there was a comment along the lines of "lol super fighting robot".

The European/Canadian version of Seasons 4 and up actually reused music from the Mega Man cartoon and even the Monster Rancher dub.

[Metalwario64]

The European/Canadian version of Seasons 4 and up actually reused music from the Mega Man cartoon and even the Monster Rancher dub.

Yeah, I know. I'm asking if they actually used the theme of the Mega Man cartoon (an instrumental at least) at one point, which I seem to recall.

[TonyTheTiger]

Regardless of how (in)appropriate the Mega Man score is for DBZ, I think we can all agree that the theme song itself is legendary.

But regarding the Ocean score, particularly for the early episodes, the music itself isn't bad. I know Shuki Levy has a questionable reputation here but judging him by his complete body of work, he's extremely good at what he does.

[SonEric84]

Regardless of how (in)appropriate the Mega Man score is for DBZ, I think we can all agree that the theme song itself is legendary.

But regarding the Ocean score, particularly for the early episodes, the music itself isn't bad. I know Shuki Levy has a questionable reputation here but judging him by his complete body of work, he's extremely good at what he does.

Indeed it is.

While the music for the early Ocean DBZ episodes still can't match the original score, I do actually enjoy most of Shuki Levy's BGM for it.

[Kendamu]

Regardless of how (in)appropriate the Mega Man score is for DBZ, I think we can all agree that the theme song itself is legendary.

But regarding the Ocean score, particularly for the early episodes, the music itself isn't bad. I know Shuki Levy has a questionable reputation here but judging him by his complete body of work, he's extremely good at what he does.

Indeed it is.

While the music for the early Ocean DBZ episodes still can't match the original score, I do actually enjoy most of Shuki Levy's BGM for it.

Definitely. I always liked the original score better, but I never disliked Shuki Levi's score.

[jjgp1112]

As if the guy who exists on this board solely just to slam the Japanese version at any opening because the dub music wasn't put on the Dragon Boxes has any room to call others out on "mental gymnastics," whatever the hell that is.

Firstly, jjgp seldom talks shit about the Japanese version. He just says he prefers the dub a lot. That's not "bashing" the Japanese version. Secondly, "mental gymnastics" means making an unreasonable stretch to form a conclusion. Which you clearly did.

I wouldn't call it unreasonable at all. DBZ AMVs use music that does not appear in the original show itself in an effort to make the hodgepodge of clips it plays over more entertaining. The DBZ dub used music that does not appear in the original show itself because the people producing the dub thought the original music wasn't good enough to hold the attention of their "a nine year old is born every day" audience. As far as my comments to jjgp, I'm sure he can defend himself, I've just caught on to his shtick of going into threads where people talk about certain aspects of the original version being better and then going full force with the "FUNimation couldn't have done that scene any better in their dub, the voice actors deserve twenty figure paychecks and multiple Oscar nominations for their work, and Faulconer composed a masterful piece for that scene which should have won three Grammys" comments. Although those comments aren't nearly as elaborately explained and often include indulgent usage of F-bombs. Did I miss anything or did I unreasonably stretch that conclusion too?

Umm...what? Although I have better things to do than scour through my post history to prove that this isn't true, when have I ever done this if it wasn't relevant to what was being talked about among the users? And not only that, but I'm pretty sure this thread is called "Things the dub did better," not "let's get into a sub vs dub argument for the billionth time."

[SonEric84]

Definitely. I always liked the original score better, but I never disliked Shuki Levi's score.

Yeah, it fit the moods pretty well and never felt out of place to me. Even after hearing their dubs of the movies (which I still think are some of the best English DB dubs to date). I actually have the Ocean DBZ soundtrack, but I didn't like how they melded all the tracks together and labeled it by episode. I wish they did stand alone tracks because I still recall some themes I really liked.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

"FUNimation couldn't have done that scene any better in their dub, the voice actors deserve twenty figure paychecks and multiple Oscar nominations for their work, and Faulconer composed a masterful piece for that scene which should have won three Grammys"

No, Obiwan. That's not a stretch at all.

[Super Sonic]

Some moments that I thought Funimation's dub did better:

Movie 12- all the Dictator scenes. You can tell Mr. Sabat had fun with that.

Death of Cell. Like others said, Ginyu Transformation fits that scene so well.

The flashback Goku has before destroying Buu. Like the silence and music more than the orchestra and him talking.

Duncan Brannan's Babidi. I just liked his voice more.

Some more, but can't think of at the moment.

[Castor Troy]

The ocean dub music was just awful in general. They just should played the Mega Man cartoon theme.

Didn't they actually play an instrumental of the Mega Man cartoon theme at one point? I thought I saw a YouTube video of the Ocean dub where an instrumental of the theme was playing, and there was a comment along the lines of "lol super fighting robot".

The European/Canadian version of Seasons 4 and up actually reused music from the Mega Man cartoon and even the Monster Rancher dub.

Most specifically in the episode "Double Trouble For Goku" when Goku realizes Android 19 can absorb energy blasts and comments on it, the actual Mega Man Cartoon theme instrumental plays. I have no idea why it was played at that point where there were so much better moments.

Maybe I'll upload a clip of it.

However, watching an entire episode of the post-freeza Ocean dub is quite painful and I haven't found out if it plays any more times. Maybe someone can find out.

[Mewzard]

I'd just like to have a clip of little Goku and adult Goku to prove to idiots that no, adult Goku doesn't sound JUST LIKE he did as a child. Yes, obviously it's Nozawa, but the evolution is clear.

Yeah, I mean, unless you're just terrible at listening to Japanese voices, there's a VERY clear difference. Mike! We need a Masako Nozawa episode of the podcast~!

Considering Mike's preferences, nearly every episode could be considered a Nozawa episode, lol. I'm just glad Mike threw us insane dub fans a bone with the Kai's first set episode. Maybe sometime in the next 200 episodes, there will be another (that would be awesome).

As for Nozawa's voice itself, while I like the voice (and I do), there is no mistaking it for a man's voice. And while it works for Goku, I'm iffy on Bardock. While related, and similar looking, they're rather distinct in actions, mindset, and morality. Funi did that better by giving Sonny Strait the role of Bardock. I mean, I started looking closer to my dad when I got older, but I can guarantee you we couldn't sound too much farther apart (him having a more rough, cool voice, while I sound like I am, a hyper geek of medium tone).

Turtles-I mean Turles is generally less bothersome to me, as I just think of him as filler evil Goku clone, so a similar voice evil'd up wouldn't bother me.

As for Shuki Levy, I can't hate the man's music, I have too many Power Rangers memories, lol.

I would say this topic would improve in some ways for the dub if we're counting Kai. While it has less differences in some ways to the original and Japanese Kai, it would let us pick from a more experienced, higher quality cast, script, and let the merit of delivery speak for the work.

[Castor Troy]

Ok, here's the Megaman Cartoon Instrumental theme in Ocean DBZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsR5_QVMmY

[Ultimate_DB_Fan]

Pretty much everything. The original Funi dub cast gave the characters personality, where as they're all too melodramatic in the original version.

The music is another thing. A strong score that repesents DBZ's epic scale is important, otherwise what's happening is meaningless because the show sounds dead.

I already got my DBZ available via the season sets, or what some of the locals here like to refer to as the "bricks".

[Kendamu]

Pretty much everything. The original Funi dub cast gave the characters personality, where as they're all too melodramatic in the original version.

The music is another thing. A strong score that repesents DBZ's epic scale is important, otherwise what's happening is meaningless because the show sounds dead.

I already got my DBZ available via the season sets, or what some of the locals here like to refer to as the "bricks".

The same could be said the opposite way around, but I'm not going to be an ass and quote you word-for-word only changing things to make it clear that I prefer the Japanese version.

[Metalwario64]

I already got my DBZ available via the season sets, or what some of the locals here like to refer to as the "bricks".

What?

I can't exactly tell, but are you seriously being defensive about people referring to the season sets as bricks? That's what people often refer to that type of packaging as...

If not, then what exactly was your point behind that last statement?