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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:43 am

Amuro Ray wrote:
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Amuro Ray wrote:So it just hit me - It would be IMPOSSIBLE for Kidbuu to be weaker than Superbuu/Fatbuu/Skinny Evil Buu -

Vegeta fought fatbuu and lost -
Fatbuu split his power between the GoodBuu and EvilBuu - meaning both of them were weaker as a result.

Considering how poorly Vegeta (and GoodBuu as well) did against Kiddbuu, we can assume he about Superbuu level easily. There is also Goku and Vegeta sensing his power rise, the removal of Dai Kaioshinn (who was said to supress his power) these all add up to a foe is absolutely more powerful than before.
Why? All this means is that Pure Buu is stronger than Fat Buu, which nobody is denying. Super Buu is WAY stronger than Fat Buu; that leaves a pretty big gap for Pure Buu to fit comfortably into.
How can Superbuu be "WAY" stronger than Fatbuu when he is comprised of the same "matter."
The Dai Kaioshinn is stated to directly weaken Buu through his purity - we see evidence of his presence within Superbuu with hi's refusal to kill Satan.
Kiddbuu has nothing that inhibits him from being stronger than Superbuu - as far as the reader can see, he still holds the south Kaioshinn inside of him and with the removal of the Dai Kaio - it's stated he is becoming more powerful.
Are you seriously questioning that Super Buu is stronger than Fat Buu?
In Super Buu, the Dai Kaioshin's influence is more limited. It's still there, just not as much as before. However, now he's able to access much more of the South Kaioshin's power as well. Not all of it, because of the Dai Kaioshin, but a lot of it. That's why Buff Buu is stronger than Super Buu. Pure Buu loses the South Kaioshin's power, which is why he is weaker.
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Amuro Ray » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:57 am

Except that isn't true - not only is it not stated, but that theory is contrary to what we have seen before. When the Good Mr.Buu originally separated from the evil side, it was stated the evil side retained majority of the power, and we must deduce that the evil side includes the South Kaio's power.

And even if by some small chance your theory was correct, in that the south Kaio was removed with the GoodBuu - doesn't that essentially prove that a being who you previously stated to be SSJ3 level, gets mercilessly pounded into submission by KiddBuu?

At this point, It's quite obvious that KidBuu was meant to be the strongest out of the three Buu forms.

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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Amuro Ray » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:58 am

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rereboy wrote:He was still trying to understand what was happening, and like I said, Kid Buu is the form of Buu of which he has the worst memories.
Yesterday I saw my friends' murderer in the street. But I wasn't terrified because he was more muscular than before, so I was only vaguely worried. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds ?
Anyways...
You guys are still avoiding the main problem :
Kaioshin only said Boo lost a power lowering. Conclusion = he's stronger.
He never said Boo also lost a power boost so that he's weaker as a result.
Wait for them to run back to Goku's statement which has been ripped apart xmillion different times in this topic.

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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:08 pm

Amuro Ray wrote:Except that isn't true - not only is it not stated, but that theory is contrary to what we have seen before. When the Good Mr.Buu originally separated from the evil side, it was stated the evil side retained majority of the power, and we must deduce that the evil side includes the South Kaio's power.

And even if by some small chance your theory was correct, in that the south Kaio was removed with the GoodBuu - doesn't that essentially prove that a being who you previously stated to be SSJ3 level, gets mercilessly pounded into submission by KiddBuu?

At this point, It's quite obvious that KidBuu was meant to be the strongest out of the three Buu forms.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Could you possibly clarify this for me?
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Amuro Ray » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:17 pm

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Amuro Ray wrote:Except that isn't true - not only is it not stated, but that theory is contrary to what we have seen before. When the Good Mr.Buu originally separated from the evil side, it was stated the evil side retained majority of the power, and we must deduce that the evil side includes the South Kaio's power.

And even if by some small chance your theory was correct, in that the south Kaio was removed with the GoodBuu - doesn't that essentially prove that a being who you previously stated to be SSJ3 level, gets mercilessly pounded into submission by KiddBuu?

At this point, It's quite obvious that KidBuu was meant to be the strongest out of the three Buu forms.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Could you possibly clarify this for me?
What is there to clarify?

That the South Kaio was never said to be removed from Buu - and even if it were the case, his power obviously didn't follow the good Buu. (This assumes you believe the Kai's powers are compatiable with Buu)
Kidbuu is stated to be pure evil - which we know to mean he is more powerful
Kibito is more afraid of this Buu than any previous.

It was also suggested that Fusion would be required to beat this Buu - just like "superbuu" meaning his power is at least on par if not greater than the Buu's before him.

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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Hitiro » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:41 pm

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rereboy wrote:He was still trying to understand what was happening, and like I said, Kid Buu is the form of Buu of which he has the worst memories.
Yesterday I saw my friends' murderer in the street. But I wasn't terrified because he was more muscular than before, so I was only vaguely worried. Do you see how ridiculous it sounds ?
Anyways...
You guys are still avoiding the main problem :
Kaioshin only said Boo lost a power lowering. Conclusion = he's stronger.
He never said Boo also lost a power boost so that he's weaker as a result.
No, it is unclear whether Kaioshin meant one absorption or more. Japanese isn't a very good indicator of plurals. Hence the conclusion from what he said could either mean:

Absorptions, meaning Pure Boo is stronger.

or

Absorption, meaning Evil Boo is stronger as only the Dai Kaioshin made him weaker.

The consensus is that the Dai Kaioshin was the only one to have a negative impact on Boo as nothing preludes to the absorption of the South Kaioshin having any influence on him. Regardless, the conclusion is up in the air as there is no way to tell whether Akira Toriyama meant absorptions or absorption unless you ask him yourself.

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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:49 pm

Amuro Ray wrote:
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Amuro Ray wrote:Except that isn't true - not only is it not stated, but that theory is contrary to what we have seen before. When the Good Mr.Buu originally separated from the evil side, it was stated the evil side retained majority of the power, and we must deduce that the evil side includes the South Kaio's power.

And even if by some small chance your theory was correct, in that the south Kaio was removed with the GoodBuu - doesn't that essentially prove that a being who you previously stated to be SSJ3 level, gets mercilessly pounded into submission by KiddBuu?

At this point, It's quite obvious that KidBuu was meant to be the strongest out of the three Buu forms.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Could you possibly clarify this for me?
What is there to clarify?

That the South Kaio was never said to be removed from Buu - and even if it were the case, his power obviously didn't follow the good Buu. (This assumes you believe the Kai's powers are compatiable with Buu)
Kidbuu is stated to be pure evil - which we know to mean he is more powerful
Kibito is more afraid of this Buu than any previous.

It was also suggested that Fusion would be required to beat this Buu - just like "superbuu" meaning his power is at least on par if not greater than the Buu's before him.
Because the Dai Kaioshin's influence was still present in both Mr. Buu and Pure Evil Buu, inhibiting their powers. You can tell from looking at them. They both still have the vest and cape that Pure Buu got from absorbing Dai Kaioshin.
Being Pure Evil doesn't make you more powerful. Piccolo Daimao was pure evil, but Piccolo was much stronger.
Kibito is afraid of this Buu because this one is the one that killed his friends. Pure Buu is also totally irrational, unlike the others. He destroyed a planet because he felt like it. None of the other Buus would have done that.

I'm really tired of arguing this with you. Let's just agree to disagree and be done with this.
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Amuro Ray » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:09 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Amuro Ray wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote: I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Could you possibly clarify this for me?
What is there to clarify?

That the South Kaio was never said to be removed from Buu - and even if it were the case, his power obviously didn't follow the good Buu. (This assumes you believe the Kai's powers are compatiable with Buu)
Kidbuu is stated to be pure evil - which we know to mean he is more powerful
Kibito is more afraid of this Buu than any previous.

It was also suggested that Fusion would be required to beat this Buu - just like "superbuu" meaning his power is at least on par if not greater than the Buu's before him.
Because the Dai Kaioshin's influence was still present in both Mr. Buu and Pure Evil Buu, inhibiting their powers. You can tell from looking at them. They both still have the vest and cape that Pure Buu got from absorbing Dai Kaioshin.
Being Pure Evil doesn't make you more powerful. Piccolo Daimao was pure evil, but Piccolo was much stronger.
Kibito is afraid of this Buu because this one is the one that killed his friends. Pure Buu is also totally irrational, unlike the others. He destroyed a planet because he felt like it. None of the other Buus would have done that.

I'm really tired of arguing this with you. Let's just agree to disagree and be done with this.
Do you hear yourself? You keep digging your hole bigger and bigger - now you're at the point where you can't pull yourself out. Dai kaioshin is never shown in the Manga - that observation is meaningless. Buu's power is directly proportional to how evil he is - which is why Dai Kaioshinn is weakening his power, the rest of your post is nonsensical malarkey that has been debunked 5 pages back when you first conjured it.

Facts: Buu is stated to be stronger the more evil he becomes.
Kibito mentions that Kidbuu is the most dangerous and the most evil of all the Buus
His power was stated to have increased with the removal of the South Kai
His power was implied to have increased by Kibito
SuperBuu tried to destroy the world (Kidbuu actually succeeded)

So please, be done with this conversation, I've long since become tired of your weak arguments.

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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:17 pm

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Ummm.... he's right there.
His power was stated to have increased with the removal of Dai Kaioshin, not South Kaioshin.
Implied where? And why are we trusting Kaioshin's opinions of people's power anyway? This is the guy who thought that Vegeta would need help against Pui-Pui, and said that Goku couldn't beat Yakon. He is possibly the least reliable judge of power in the series.
When does Super Buu try to destroy the planet?
And it's not like blowing up the planet is even an indicator of strength anymore; Freeza could do it. What made Pure Buu so dangerous is that he just up and decided to blow it up because he felt like it.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:19 pm

Amuro Ray wrote: Facts: Buu is stated to be stronger the more evil he becomes.
So Evil Grey Boo is equal to Kid Boo, then? Both forms are pure evil.
Kibito mentions that Kidbuu is the most dangerous and the most evil of all the Buus
Right. And with how unpredictable and wild Kid Boo is shown to be, it seems accurate.
His power was stated to have increased with the removal of the South Kai
His power was stated to increase while he was entering the form he attained after absorbing that same Kaioshin, yes.
His power was implied to have increased by Kibito
Not as Kid Boo, no.
SuperBuu tried to destroy the world (Kidbuu actually succeeded)
Yeah, it's not like Super Boo didn't kill nearly everyone on earth just by releasing pink strings of energy out of one hand. Even Freeza could blow the earth up in one blast, so this isn't a knock on Super Boo.
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Amuro Ray » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:27 pm

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Amuro Ray wrote: Facts: Buu is stated to be stronger the more evil he becomes.
So Evil Grey Boo is equal to Kid Boo, then? Both forms are pure evil.
Kibito mentions that Kidbuu is the most dangerous and the most evil of all the Buus
Right. And with how unpredictable and wild Kid Boo is shown to be, it seems accurate.
His power was stated to have increased with the removal of the South Kai
His power was stated to increase while he was entering the form he attained after absorbing that same Kaioshin, yes.
His power was implied to have increased by Kibito
Not as Kid Boo, no.
SuperBuu tried to destroy the world (Kidbuu actually succeeded)
Yeah, it's not like Super Boo didn't kill nearly everyone on earth just by releasing pink strings of energy out of one hand. Even Freeza could blow the earth up in one blast, so this isn't a knock on Super Boo.
Actually - as your friend above proved - Dai Kaio still was influencing Evil/Skinny Buu - as evidenced by his appearance. It's impossible that Kidbuu could be weaker than Superbuu based on that alone.

And nothing that Kidbuu did was unpredictable - he's a killing machine - he kills. He was doing just that as Fatbuu/Superbuu. It's a weak counter argument (if you could even call it that.) And for the record, your final rebuttal just reinforced what I was saying all along - all Buus are dangerous.

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Amuro Ray wrote:So please, be done with this conversation, I've long since become tired of your weak arguments.
And I am completely done with this attitude.

The very instant that you are rude to another member on this forum in any way, shape, or form will be the last post you make. I can't make myself any more clear at this point, and I can not do it in a tactful way. There is literally nothing else I can do. You have strikes against your account, you have free warnings, you have more strikes, you have more free warnings, you have a temporary ban, and you have been given more chances even beyond that than I can believe have been given to you, all in an incredibly short amount of time.

This forum can and will carry on without you. It is now up to you to decide if you want to have the ability to post here any more. You need us more than we need you. I would love to have you stick around and continue trade information and insight, but I'm not convinced that's what you want. If it is, your actions speak differently.
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:35 pm

Amuro Ray wrote:Actually - as your friend above proved - Dai Kaio still was influencing Evil/Skinny Buu - as evidenced by his appearance. It's impossible that Kidbuu could be weaker than Superbuu based on that alone.
He might've had Kaioshin clothes on, but he's still a manifestation of everything evil within Majin Boo. He probably just had the uniform because he came out of someone that also had on a uniform. No telling how Majin Boo works. What is fact is that he was an entity of pure evil. Only Fat/Super/Mr. Boo had Dai Kaioshin influence from what I've read.
And nothing that Kidbuu did was unpredictable - he's a killing machine - he kills. He was doing just that as Fatbuu/Superbuu. It's a weak counter argument (if you could even call it that.) And for the record, your final rebuttal just reinforced what I was saying all along - all Buus are dangerous.
Despite the fact that both Goku and Vegeta are surprised he just tried to destroy the earth out of nowhere? That alone shows he's unpredictable and troublesome, while the other Boo's at least showed a form of rational thinking. Kid Boo is absolutely mindless.
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Amuro Ray » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:39 pm

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Amuro Ray wrote:So please, be done with this conversation, I've long since become tired of your weak arguments.
And I am completely done with this attitude.

The very instant that you are rude to another member on this forum in any way, shape, or form will be the last post you make. I can't make myself any more clear at this point, and I can not do it in a tactful way. There is literally nothing else I can do. You have strikes against your account, you have free warnings, you have more strikes, you have more free warnings, you have a temporary ban, and you have been given more chances even beyond that than I can believe have been given to you, all in an incredibly short amount of time.

This forum can and will carry on without you. It is now up to you to decide if you want to have the ability to post here any more. You need us more than we need you. I would love to have you stick around and continue trade information and insight, but I'm not convinced that's what you want. If it is, your actions speak differently.
You know - I've tried to change my tone - but if you haven't noticed I imagine I'm on borrowed time...

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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

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Amuro Ray wrote:Actually - as your friend above proved - Dai Kaio still was influencing Evil/Skinny Buu - as evidenced by his appearance. It's impossible that Kidbuu could be weaker than Superbuu based on that alone.

And nothing that Kidbuu did was unpredictable - he's a killing machine - he kills. He was doing just that as Fatbuu/Superbuu. It's a weak counter argument (if you could even call it that.) And for the record, your final rebuttal just reinforced what I was saying all along - all Buus are dangerous.
I'm sorry but..
Strength Checker wrote:Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P2.3
Narrator: “Due to his strong anger, the evil portion that Majin Boo had kept inside himself greatly swelled up and became another Majin Boo, who came flying out…In other words, he was divided into a pure evil Majin Boo and an innocent Majin Boo…”
The Narrator(Really just a caption really) of the manga says Boo divided up into two Boo's a pure evil one and an innocent one. Regardless of what you say the influence from the Dai Kaioshin isn't there. Pure Evil Boo just manifested with those clothes because of the Boo he came out of. And no, Pure Boo was unpredictable. Goku and Vegeta were looking to fight him and he just all of a sudden, without any reason, went and blew up Earth. The Fat Boo and Evil Boo would only do those things after some thought. Pure Boo however didn't even think about it, he just went a head and did it.

The difference between him and the other Boo's is he has no thought process in his actions. He'll just do things without any reason to. Evil Boo had a reason to go blow up the Earth. With all the humans dead except for Hercule, Tienshinhan and Chaoztu; Evil Boo thought there was no more fun he could have on the planet. Pure Boo wasn't thinking about what fun he could have, and he didn't have a reason to blow up the Earth. That is what makes him the most dangerous. At any point in the fight with Goku on the Kaioshin's planet he could have just stopped what he was doing and decided to blow up the planet. Because he's just that type of creature. No reason governs his mind.

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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:44 pm

Hitiro wrote:
Amuro Ray wrote:Actually - as your friend above proved - Dai Kaio still was influencing Evil/Skinny Buu - as evidenced by his appearance. It's impossible that Kidbuu could be weaker than Superbuu based on that alone.

And nothing that Kidbuu did was unpredictable - he's a killing machine - he kills. He was doing just that as Fatbuu/Superbuu. It's a weak counter argument (if you could even call it that.) And for the record, your final rebuttal just reinforced what I was saying all along - all Buus are dangerous.
I'm sorry but..
Strength Checker wrote:Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P2.3
Narrator: “Due to his strong anger, the evil portion that Majin Boo had kept inside himself greatly swelled up and became another Majin Boo, who came flying out…In other words, he was divided into a pure evil Majin Boo and an innocent Majin Boo…”
The Narrator(Really just a caption really) of the manga says Boo divided up into two Boo's a pure evil one and an innocent one. Regardless of what you say the influence from the Dai Kaioshin isn't there. Pure Evil Boo just manifested with those clothes because of the Boo he came out of. And no, Pure Boo was unpredictable. Goku and Vegeta were looking to fight him and he just all of a sudden, without any reason, went and blew up Earth. The Fat Boo and Evil Boo would only do those things after some thought. Pure Boo however didn't even think about it, he just went a head and did it.

The difference between him and the other Boo's is he has no thought process in his actions. He'll just do things without any reason to. Evil Boo had a reason to go blow up the Earth. With all the humans dead except for (the H-word), Tenshinhan and Chaoztu; Evil Boo thought there was no more fun he could have on the planet. Pure Boo wasn't thinking about what fun he could have, and he didn't have a reason to blow up the Earth. That is what makes him the most dangerous. At any point in the fight with Goku on the Kaioshin's planet he could have just stopped what he was doing and decided to blow up the planet. Because he's just that type of creature. No reason governs his mind.
Well, the point I meant to make was that Pure Evil Buu and Mr. Buu were formed from the power that Fat Buu had. So the Dai Kaioshin was still inhibiting Pure Evil's Buu's power, just not directly. His influence prevented Pure Evil Buu from being as strong as Pure Buu in the first place.
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Amuro Ray » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:44 pm

Hitiro wrote:
Amuro Ray wrote:Actually - as your friend above proved - Dai Kaio still was influencing Evil/Skinny Buu - as evidenced by his appearance. It's impossible that Kidbuu could be weaker than Superbuu based on that alone.

And nothing that Kidbuu did was unpredictable - he's a killing machine - he kills. He was doing just that as Fatbuu/Superbuu. It's a weak counter argument (if you could even call it that.) And for the record, your final rebuttal just reinforced what I was saying all along - all Buus are dangerous.
I'm sorry but..
Strength Checker wrote:Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P2.3
Narrator: “Due to his strong anger, the evil portion that Majin Boo had kept inside himself greatly swelled up and became another Majin Boo, who came flying out…In other words, he was divided into a pure evil Majin Boo and an innocent Majin Boo…”
The Narrator(Really just a caption really) of the manga says Boo divided up into two Boo's a pure evil one and an innocent one. Regardless of what you say the influence from the Dai Kaioshin isn't there. Pure Evil Boo just manifested with those clothes because of the Boo he came out of. And no, Pure Boo was unpredictable. Goku and Vegeta were looking to fight him and he just all of a sudden, without any reason, went and blew up Earth. The Fat Boo and Evil Boo would only do those things after some thought. Pure Boo however didn't even think about it, he just went a head and did it.

The difference between him and the other Boo's is he has no thought process in his actions. He'll just do things without any reason to. Evil Boo had a reason to go blow up the Earth. With all the humans dead except for (the H-word), Tenshinhan and Chaoztu; Evil Boo thought there was no more fun he could have on the planet. Pure Boo wasn't thinking about what fun he could have, and he didn't have a reason to blow up the Earth. That is what makes him the most dangerous. At any point in the fight with Goku on the Kaioshin's planet he could have just stopped what he was doing and decided to blow up the planet. Because he's just that type of creature. No reason governs his mind.
But this can't be correct - Evil Buu was said to share power with GoodBuu. In order for your theory to work, Kidbuu (who you are assumuing to be equal to Evilbuu) would actually have to be weaker than even Fatbuu - which we all know isn't remotely true.

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Post by Hitiro » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:59 pm

Amuro Ray wrote:But this can't be correct - Evil Buu was said to share power with GoodBuu. In order for your theory to work, Kidbuu (who you are assumuing to be equal to Evilbuu) would actually have to be weaker than even Fatbuu - which we all know isn't remotely true.
When did I ever say I was assuming Pure Boo was equal to Evil Boo? And no, you're just making things up about what we believe right now. You were the one who said a Boo who is more evil is stronger:
Amuro Ray wrote:Facts: Buu is stated to be stronger the more evil he becomes.
We're showing you that your fact is incorrect. It isn't about who is more evil in consideration with absorptions. Yes, if Pure Evil Boo is uninhibited by the Dai Kaioshin's influence then there is no sealing of the original Boo's(Pure Boo) power. That would make Pure Evil Boo and Pure Boo on the same level. Evil Boo(Super Boo) however makes use of the South Kaioshin's power due to the Dai Kaioshin's influence being weaker to be the stronger Boo. So, it would be like this:

Innocent Boo = Dai Kaioshin Ki
Fat Boo = Heavily Restrained Pure Boo Ki(South Kaioshin Ki sealed) by Dai Kaioshin Influence(Fluctuates when Fat Boo gets angry but South Kaioshin Ki remains sealed)
Pure Evil Boo = Unrestrained Pure Boo Ki
Pure Boo = Unrestrained Pure Boo Ki
Evil Boo = Slightly Restrained Pure Boo Ki + Restrained South Kaioshin Ki due to Dai Kaioshin Influence being less effective
Buff Boo = Unrestrained Pure Boo Ki + Unrestrained South Kaioshin Ki

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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:28 pm

I have to wonder what goes on in your head Amuro Ray. Not too be rude or anything but you are blatantly ignoring the most accurate translations and making things up as you go :? .
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Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

Post by Darkprince410 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:13 pm

Amuro Ray wrote:
Hitiro wrote:
Amuro Ray wrote:Actually - as your friend above proved - Dai Kaio still was influencing Evil/Skinny Buu - as evidenced by his appearance. It's impossible that Kidbuu could be weaker than Superbuu based on that alone.

And nothing that Kidbuu did was unpredictable - he's a killing machine - he kills. He was doing just that as Fatbuu/Superbuu. It's a weak counter argument (if you could even call it that.) And for the record, your final rebuttal just reinforced what I was saying all along - all Buus are dangerous.
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Strength Checker wrote:Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P2.3
Narrator: “Due to his strong anger, the evil portion that Majin Boo had kept inside himself greatly swelled up and became another Majin Boo, who came flying out…In other words, he was divided into a pure evil Majin Boo and an innocent Majin Boo…”
The Narrator(Really just a caption really) of the manga says Boo divided up into two Boo's a pure evil one and an innocent one. Regardless of what you say the influence from the Dai Kaioshin isn't there. Pure Evil Boo just manifested with those clothes because of the Boo he came out of. And no, Pure Boo was unpredictable. Goku and Vegeta were looking to fight him and he just all of a sudden, without any reason, went and blew up Earth. The Fat Boo and Evil Boo would only do those things after some thought. Pure Boo however didn't even think about it, he just went a head and did it.

The difference between him and the other Boo's is he has no thought process in his actions. He'll just do things without any reason to. Evil Boo had a reason to go blow up the Earth. With all the humans dead except for (the H-word), Tenshinhan and Chaoztu; Evil Boo thought there was no more fun he could have on the planet. Pure Boo wasn't thinking about what fun he could have, and he didn't have a reason to blow up the Earth. That is what makes him the most dangerous. At any point in the fight with Goku on the Kaioshin's planet he could have just stopped what he was doing and decided to blow up the planet. Because he's just that type of creature. No reason governs his mind.
But this can't be correct - Evil Buu was said to share power with GoodBuu. In order for your theory to work, Kidbuu (who you are assumuing to be equal to Evilbuu) would actually have to be weaker than even Fatbuu - which we all know isn't remotely true.
The thing is, is we don't know necessarily if that's true, since our only real piece of evidence to that point is Goku saying that he probably could have defeated him, but just chose not to. It's been established by Vegeta's fight with Fat Buu that his power increases as he grows angry (much like how Gohan's was when he was younger), and as such, it can logically be assumed that when he's not angry, he's not tapping into his full power. When Goku fought Fat Buu, Buu was enjoying the fight, and showed no indication of getting angry with him, so as a result, Buu wasn't giving it his all.

Given this fact, I've come to the theory that Fat Buu's full potential is equal to that of Evil Buu, but unlike Evil Buu, due to the more dominant influence of Dai Kaioushin within Fat Buu, he couldn't get angry enough to actually reach Evil Buu's battle power without expelling the Pure Evil Buu. Once he became angry enough due to Mr. Satan nearly dying as a result of those assassins, he hit his maximum level of anger, and thus his maximum level of power, before expelling the Pure Evil Buu.

I mean, we have to look at it from this perspective.

Fat Buu = Pure Evil Buu + Mr. Buu
Pure Evil Buu + Mr. Buu = Evil Buu
Evil Buu - Mr. Buu = Pure Buu

Fat Buu = Pure Evil Buu + Mr. Buu = Evil Buu
Fat Buu = Evil Buu

Pure Evil Buu + Mr. Buu = Evil Buu - Mr. Buu = Pure Buu
Pure Evil Buu = Pure Buu

In a very cut and dry sense, given that nothing happens in the time frame for some power increase part of the way through, Pure Buu should logically be no more powerful than Pure Evil Buu, since they're both the complete evil sides of Buu, simply in different forms.

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