I wonder what FUNimation was thinking when they decided to implement their soundtrack for GT.DemonRin wrote:The Music was good, I'll never knock GT it's music.
The Things GT Got Right
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But he didn't say no, did he? So yeah... fuck Oob.Lord Beerus wrote: Goku chose him. Not the other way around.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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DBZAOTA482 wrote:ABED wrote:Of course he had his self awareness. He's still himself, just with his younger body. And when in the world did he abuse Gohan?Goku in GT had his competence and self-awareness intact despite being a kid (which was clearly just intended to be superficial) and that as a SS4 he had the maturity to recognize evil intentions and did make up for his neglect of Goten and abuse of Gohan with Pan. I liked that GT put him in more of a solo-veteran role for Pan, and for the series which I had no actual problem with.
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You're being way too harsh on Oob. He barely knows Goku's family or friends circumstances.DBZAOTA482 wrote:But he didn't say no, did he? So yeah... fuck Oob.Lord Beerus wrote: Goku chose him. Not the other way around.
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Just for the fuck of it: things that GT got right? Oob - especially Majoob.
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They try to Americanize GT similar how they did it to DBZ. By giving it a different tone and making it feel more edgy! The dub for GT reeks mid 2000's with the awful music that they put in the show. I guess 1996 was view as too old by 2003's standers and wanted GT to feel more new.ryou766 wrote:I wonder what FUNimation was thinking when they decided to implement their soundtrack for GT.DemonRin wrote:The Music was good, I'll never knock GT it's music.
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Good soundtrack, good animation, good ending, some good idea's. Super Saiyan 4 the only Super Saiyan design that looked like it have effort put into it, (not knocking the other SS designs love em all but yeah). Super Saiyan 4 being different for each Saiyan. Love the feel of the EoZ world. EoZ character designs for the most part. Wow, GT really wasn't as bad as I thought, certainly a lot better than the first 35 episodes of Super, fortunately Super has found it's footing since.
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He could very well have been written into an oblivious whiny kid as well if the writers went that literally you know; which is what they didn't do. This is part of the concept they did get "right". Comparing him to what became of him in Super.ABED wrote:Of course he had his self awareness. He's still himself, just with his younger body. And when in the world did he abuse Gohan?Goku in GT had his competence and self-awareness intact despite being a kid (which was clearly just intended to be superficial) and that as a SS4 he had the maturity to recognize evil intentions and did make up for his neglect of Goten and abuse of Gohan with Pan. I liked that GT put him in more of a solo-veteran role for Pan, and for the series which I had no actual problem with.
And, as in "abusing" Gohan, I was referring to his treatment (or indirect treatment) of him in the Cell Arc In comparison, he didn't force Pan to do anything solely for his own ideological gain, even when she wanted to fight.
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Hands down one of his best ever looks IMO.

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Space
Setting the characters loose all over the galaxy is easily the best thing GT did. After taking Dragon Ball to space with the Namek saga, it seems to me that the logical thing would be to have Goku and company taking the fight all over the galaxy, yet after Frieza they never go to space again. Supreme Kai's planet doesn't even count since it's part of Otherworld. The reason I loved space in GT was because it took the lighthearted adventure format of Pilaf saga DB and combine it with Z's soft sci-fi elements (early on at least). Turning Goku into a kid again was a nice touch too, too bad the only way they could seem to make it work was with a completely idiotic plot device that doesn't make a lick of sense in the DB universe.
Super Saiyan 4
Super Saiyan 4 is still my favourite SSJ transformation in the entire franchise. It represents the complete mastery of Saiyan ability, by being able to fully control the Ozaru and ascending beyond the level of a regular Super Saiyan, and it's topped off with a badass and unique design that made the whole thing feel like the final SSJ transformation (until 16 years later, that is).
Character Designs
Also, while this one's more of an opinion, I absolutely love GT's character designs. They fit the goofier tone that GT was originally going for, really demonstrate to me how much the characters have changed, and gives me a good idea of what fashion is like in the DB universe at the time. Also, mustache Vegeta is fucking hilarious.
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I should also mention how SSJ4 Gogeta is my favourite character design in the entire franchise. I'll be damned it that colour scheme isn't the most visually appealing thing I've ever seen in Dragon Ball.
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Setting the characters loose all over the galaxy is easily the best thing GT did. After taking Dragon Ball to space with the Namek saga, it seems to me that the logical thing would be to have Goku and company taking the fight all over the galaxy, yet after Frieza they never go to space again. Supreme Kai's planet doesn't even count since it's part of Otherworld. The reason I loved space in GT was because it took the lighthearted adventure format of Pilaf saga DB and combine it with Z's soft sci-fi elements (early on at least). Turning Goku into a kid again was a nice touch too, too bad the only way they could seem to make it work was with a completely idiotic plot device that doesn't make a lick of sense in the DB universe.
Super Saiyan 4
Super Saiyan 4 is still my favourite SSJ transformation in the entire franchise. It represents the complete mastery of Saiyan ability, by being able to fully control the Ozaru and ascending beyond the level of a regular Super Saiyan, and it's topped off with a badass and unique design that made the whole thing feel like the final SSJ transformation (until 16 years later, that is).
Character Designs
Also, while this one's more of an opinion, I absolutely love GT's character designs. They fit the goofier tone that GT was originally going for, really demonstrate to me how much the characters have changed, and gives me a good idea of what fashion is like in the DB universe at the time. Also, mustache Vegeta is fucking hilarious.
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I should also mention how SSJ4 Gogeta is my favourite character design in the entire franchise. I'll be damned it that colour scheme isn't the most visually appealing thing I've ever seen in Dragon Ball.
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How was the abuse? He didn't do it for "ideological gain" whatever the world that is. Gohan was the ONLY one who could defeat Cell. This is a point that is irrefutable and can't be stressed enough. Toriyama made it clear that the only person with the power to defeat Cell was Gohan.SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:He could very well have been written into an oblivious whiny kid as well if the writers went that literally you know; which is what they didn't do. This is part of the concept they did get "right". Comparing him to what became of him in Super.
And, as in "abusing" Gohan, I was referring to his treatment (or indirect treatment) of him in the Cell Arc In comparison, he didn't force Pan to do anything solely for his own ideological gain, even when she wanted to fight.
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Baby and that entire saga
SSJ4 as a whole (still wish we got this over the God forms)
Tokunaga's score
The ending
SSJ4 as a whole (still wish we got this over the God forms)
Tokunaga's score
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Piccolo's death was great, it made his fusion with Kami actually matter character wise for once, it was emotional and it later allowed him to help save the world from Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons.
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Glad to see GT get some respect for a change.
A big one for me was having Vegeta remain true to his self after Buu's defeat. He kept his pride and dignity intact, something Super fails to deliver at times.
Characters aging too, we can clearly see how everyone was getting older.
The art and animation was amazing, as well as the Music. Dan Dan has right Dragon Ball feel to it. <3
I felt the baby saga was something new and interesting, and the shadow dragons. It was a fine way to wrap up Dragon Ball as a story.
A big one for me was having Vegeta remain true to his self after Buu's defeat. He kept his pride and dignity intact, something Super fails to deliver at times.
Characters aging too, we can clearly see how everyone was getting older.
The art and animation was amazing, as well as the Music. Dan Dan has right Dragon Ball feel to it. <3
I felt the baby saga was something new and interesting, and the shadow dragons. It was a fine way to wrap up Dragon Ball as a story.
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Oh yeah forgot about that. That was actually really well done, another thing to add the good pile.ekrolo2 wrote:Piccolo's death was great, it made his fusion with Kami actually matter character wise for once, it was emotional and it later allowed him to help save the world from Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons.
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I think Piccolo keeping the evil dead
in line was a really fun idea.

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Yeah, I did like that. I wish we could've gotten a side-story about it.ABED wrote:I think Piccolo keeping the evil deadin line was a really fun idea.

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My point was that he didn't treat Pan as a situational tool in GT within their relationship, unlike the way he did with Gohan. His characterization wasn't as impulsive and cocky in GT, as he was in Z. His relationship with Pan seemed more natural than it was for Gohan in comparison. Hence how I say GT portrayed him growing a bit there.ABED wrote:How was the abuse? He didn't do it for "ideological gain" whatever the world that is. Gohan was the ONLY one who could defeat Cell. This is a point that is irrefutable and can't be stressed enough. Toriyama made it clear that the only person with the power to defeat Cell was Gohan.SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:He could very well have been written into an oblivious whiny kid as well if the writers went that literally you know; which is what they didn't do. This is part of the concept they did get "right". Comparing him to what became of him in Super.
And, as in "abusing" Gohan, I was referring to his treatment (or indirect treatment) of him in the Cell Arc In comparison, he didn't force Pan to do anything solely for his own ideological gain, even when she wanted to fight.
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He didn't treat Gohan that way, either. Circumstances forced Gohan to be the one to take on Cell. Where was Goku impulsive?My point was that he didn't treat Pan as a situational tool in GT within their relationship
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The design and art department. As a kid I bought GT as straight up Z continuation thanks to the art.
In this task alone, GT is definitely superior to Super and lot of modern anime.
In this task alone, GT is definitely superior to Super and lot of modern anime.
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