Lord Beerus wrote:The latest episode (Episode 122) handled Vegeta exceptionally well. He's know that he's arrogant, but from his perspective, that's precisely what the pride of a Saiyan is. And he's not going to throw away who he is. A prideful Saiyan. Even with all the development he's gone through, who he is at his core will never go away or change. Vegeta even remakes that he'll find his own of defeating Jiren and that he doesn't need Ultra Instinct to do it. Which just further highlights Vegeta's extremely dogged, brazen and resilient attitude. It's one of those character drive moments in self awareness that you don't much from characters in Dragon Ball, so it was nice to see it. It also served as good lampshade hanging for why Vegeta has been acting the way he has been in this arc.
Exactly! This is what I've been saying all this time!
He's arrogant and cocky because that's his Saiyan pride, something he can never truly throw away.
Lord Beerus wrote:The latest episode (Episode 122) handled Vegeta exceptionally well. He's know that he's arrogant, but from his perspective, that's precisely what the pride of a Saiyan is. And he's not going to throw away who he is. A prideful Saiyan. Even with all the development he's gone through, who he is at his core will never go away or change. Vegeta even remakes that he'll find his own of defeating Jiren and that he doesn't need Ultra Instinct to do it. Which just further highlights Vegeta's extremely dogged, brazen and resilient attitude. It's one of those character drive moments in self awareness that you don't much from characters in Dragon Ball, so it was nice to see it. It also served as good lampshade hanging for why Vegeta has been acting the way he has been in this arc.
Exactly! This is what I've been saying all this time!
He's arrogant and cocky because that's his Saiyan pride, something he can never truly throw away.
Funny, he threw that away in the last arc when he claimed he was fighting not for his own sake, but for Trunks' Future. Even Black, a Shinjin, remarked that his behaviour was quite un-Saiyan-like.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro
Lord Beerus wrote:The latest episode (Episode 122) handled Vegeta exceptionally well. He's know that he's arrogant, but from his perspective, that's precisely what the pride of a Saiyan is. And he's not going to throw away who he is. A prideful Saiyan. Even with all the development he's gone through, who he is at his core will never go away or change. Vegeta even remakes that he'll find his own of defeating Jiren and that he doesn't need Ultra Instinct to do it. Which just further highlights Vegeta's extremely dogged, brazen and resilient attitude. It's one of those character drive moments in self awareness that you don't much from characters in Dragon Ball, so it was nice to see it. It also served as good lampshade hanging for why Vegeta has been acting the way he has been in this arc.
Exactly! This is what I've been saying all this time!
He's arrogant and cocky because that's his Saiyan pride, something he can never truly throw away.
Funny, he threw that away in the last arc when he claimed he was fighting not for his own sake, but for Trunks' Future. Even Black, a Shinjin, remarked that his behaviour was quite un-Saiyan-like.
Vegeta can still have the pride of Saiyan and while also fighting unselfishly for the sake of for others. They traits aren't mutually exclusive. It's just a matter of how you balance them.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:
Exactly! This is what I've been saying all this time!
He's arrogant and cocky because that's his Saiyan pride, something he can never truly throw away.
Funny, he threw that away in the last arc when he claimed he was fighting not for his own sake, but for Trunks' Future. Even Black, a Shinjin, remarked that his behaviour was quite un-Saiyan-like.
Vegeta can still have the pride of Saiyan and while also fighting unselfishly for the sake of for others. They traits aren't mutually exclusive. It's just a matter of how you balance them.
I believe Super should have explained that earlier in this arc because people were getting confused about Vegeta in this arc.
Majinwarman So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Funny, he threw that away in the last arc when he claimed he was fighting not for his own sake, but for Trunks' Future. Even Black, a Shinjin, remarked that his behaviour was quite un-Saiyan-like.
Vegeta can still have the pride of Saiyan and while also fighting unselfishly for the sake of for others. They traits aren't mutually exclusive. It's just a matter of how you balance them.
I believe Super should have explained that earlier in this arc because people were getting confused about Vegeta in this arc.
Why his is getting power-ups from stuff that caused him to get his ass kicked in the past? I guess Vegeta should have unlocked new powers against Frieza, 18, Perfect Cell, and Buu. This is terrible writing the direction they are going in. His behavior is now a strength when we've been told that's a huge flaw in his fighting style. Bad writing IMO
Lord Beerus wrote:
Vegeta can still have the pride of Saiyan and while also fighting unselfishly for the sake of for others. They traits aren't mutually exclusive. It's just a matter of how you balance them.
I believe Super should have explained that earlier in this arc because people were getting confused about Vegeta in this arc.
Why his is getting power-ups from stuff that caused him to get his ass kicked in the past? I guess Vegeta should have unlocked new powers against Frieza, 18, Perfect Cell, and Buu. This is terrible writing the direction they are going in. His behavior is now a strength when we've been told that's a huge flaw in his fighting style. Bad writing IMO
He's trying to turn his flaw into a strength for him. That's good writing not bad at all. It shows growth from Vegeta.
Majinwarman So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
