The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hugo Boss]

Power-wise versus

Gohan (Post Z-Sword's training) vs Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs Vegeta (With halo)

[Mystic Buu]

Power-wise versus

Gohan (Post Z-Sword's training) vs Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs Vegeta (With halo)

I don't think that Gohan got a lot weaker after 7 years so Z-Sword should put him above Kid Gohan.Majin Vegeta was stronger than Kid Gohan and I think that Vegeta (with halo) should be around Kid Gohan's power.Gohan (post Z-Sword's training) wins this.
I go by this.Gohan > Vegeta > Kid Gohan.

[TheGmGoken]

Power-wise versus

Gohan (Post Z-Sword's training) vs Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs Vegeta (With halo)

I don't think that Gohan got a lot weaker after 7 years so Z-Sword should put him above Kid Gohan.Majin Vegeta was stronger than Kid Gohan and I think that Vegeta (with halo) should be around Kid Gohan's power.Gohan (post Z-Sword's training) wins this.
I go by this.Gohan > Vegeta > Kid Gohan.

Vegeta with halo got the same power as Majin Vegeta.

[Kaboom]

If by "(with halo)" you mean Vegeta when he returned after dying against Fat Boo, then yeah, there's no reason to assume he lost the power he gained to fight Goku. Bobbidi did a dormant power-unlock; The power wasn't just a side-effect of the possession. So given that I think Gohan's Z-Sword training would, at the very best, get him back up to his Cell Games level, I'll give Vegeta the victory in this three-way brawl.


Here's a fun one that's probably been done before but whatever: Super Saiyan Goku Vs the Cell Juniors.


If the Juniors were each about equal to or at best slightly stronger than SSJ Vegeta or Trunks, then Goku would be quite a lot stronger than any of them. So how many of the little buggers could Goku take on at once? Inversely, how many of them together would it take to beat him? Two or three? All seven? Would they need the anime's mysterious 8th junior to tip the scales?

[RandomGuy96]

I think that, if Goku is a 20, the Juniors would be 15s. He couldn't take all seven; it's just too much, he'll take too many off guard hits due to not being able to be everywhere at once and counter that many opponents that he can't one shot. He can take two or three. MAYBE four at the absolute best.

[Kamiccolo9]

I think that, if Goku is a 20, the Juniors would be 15s. He couldn't take all seven; it's just too much, he'll take too many off guard hits due to not being able to be everywhere at once and counter that many opponents that he can't one shot. He can take two or three. MAYBE four at the absolute best.

I pretty much agree with this. This isn't like a Nappa-Earthlings difference here; more like a Garlic Jr. vs Goku and Piccolo difference. Maybe a bit more tilted in Goku's favor.

[TobyS]

Interesting, if the consensus is that 7 juniours for a helthy Goku to solo then what about this.

Same fight as in the manga, but Goku ate a bean first.

So perhaps, Goku vs 4 juniors, Trunks, Vegeta and Piccolo get one each, the humans assist Piccolo, or just strike where needed.

If bought charge time or a distraction, could the Makansappo, Ki-enzan or Kikoho do anything to a Junior?

[RandomGuy96]

Interesting, if the consensus is that 7 juniours for a helthy Goku to solo then what about this.

Same fight as in the manga, but Goku ate a bean first.

So perhaps, Goku vs 4 juniors, Trunks, Vegeta and Piccolo get one each, the humans assist Piccolo, or just strike where needed.

If bought charge time or a distraction, could the Makansappo, Ki-enzan or Kikoho do anything to a Junior?

Juniors 1-3 have their same fights with Piccolo, Vegeta, and Trunks, while the other four quickly one shot (or just ignore) the humans to gang up on Goku. The Juniors win, and everyone is screwed unless Gohan decides to stop being a bitch.

No human attack can do anything to a Junior, or even final form Freeza. The gap in power is simply too big.

[KentalSSJ6]

Goku and Raditz fusion dance (Roku) VS Vegeta and Nappa.

[TheGmGoken]

Goku and Raditz fusion dance (Roku) VS Vegeta and Nappa.

He(Rotaku) beats Nappa but lose to Vegeta

[xmysticgohanx]

Goku and Raditz fusion dance (Roku) VS Vegeta and Nappa.

Roku stomps both including Oozaru. Fusion dance is implied to be higher than the SSJ boost so 8000 + 1500 = 9500 / 2 = 4750 x 51 = 242250 which is more than 180000.
The 51 was a minimum boost but I actually think it's a 100x boost.

[TheGmGoken]

Goku and Raditz fusion dance (Roku) VS Vegeta and Nappa.

Roku stomps both including Oozaru. Fusion dance is implied to be higher than the SSJ boost so 8000 + 1500 = 9500 / 2 = 4750 x 51 = 242250 which is more than 180000.
The 51 was a minimum boost but I actually think it's a 100x boost.

Then again. Always thought he meant Early Saiyan arc Goku...

[xmysticgohanx]

Goku and Raditz fusion dance (Roku) VS Vegeta and Nappa.

Roku stomps both including Oozaru. Fusion dance is implied to be higher than the SSJ boost so 8000 + 1500 = 9500 / 2 = 4750 x 51 = 242250 which is more than 180000.
The 51 was a minimum boost but I actually think it's a 100x boost.

Then again. Always thought he meant Early Saiyan arc Goku...

If he did then the 51x boost loses to Oozaru.

[TheGmGoken]

Your fusion formula is off since Power levels must be equal

[xmysticgohanx]

That's why I used the average pl but I can see why that wouldn't work.

[Hugo Boss]

I don't think fusion raise one's power a lot more than 10 times. This Roku should be roughly 14.000. I guess to defeat both Vegeta and Nappa at the same time he would need over 22.000.

[The Monkey King]

A hypothetical Cell Games SSJ2 Goku vs Super Perfect Cell.

[RandomGuy96]

A hypothetical Cell Games SSJ2 Goku vs Super Perfect Cell.

Super Perfect Cell stomps him hard. Even if you downplay the enormous power differences implied, the Daizenshuu states CG base Gohan = Buu arc base Gohan, without rage. So CG SS2 Goku would be weaker than Buu arc SS2 Gohan, who is considered weak compared to his CG self, who rivals Super Perfect Cell.

I think even regular Perfect Cell could beat SS2 CG Goku if he used his full power. Probably not easily, though.

[Saiga]

A hypothetical Cell Games SSJ2 Goku vs Super Perfect Cell.

It's the exact same fight as SS1 Goku vs Cell.

[RandomGuy96]

A hypothetical Cell Games SSJ2 Goku vs Super Perfect Cell.

It's the exact same fight as SS1 Goku vs Cell.

Except shorter and a more one sided, because even if you think the power gap is the same, SS2 consumes energy faster than MSS (or at least it should...).