Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[Chuquita]

Thank you so so much for the scans, Redon!!

Thoughts on the Cinema Book:
-Pixiv spoilered me more than I thought having now seen these; that O.O Pilaf face, flashback!Bulma, and the tearful Chi-Chi one I recognize from fanart. Also Goku's (awesome) red sneakers.
-Speaking of, does Goku have the "GO" symbol on the back of his blue sweatsuit too? (So it's not just a jacket, it's a personalized one.) The screenshot of him jogging looks like there's something on the back of the jacket; if that is what's on there, cute~
-Trunks is blushing when Mai takes him hostage. XD
-Beerus feeling base Goku's arm up strikes me funny for some reason. XD
-ssjg Goku continues to be super-cute *_*
-I really like the "cat-like" screenshots of Beerus. X3 It's like; he is the god of destruction, but he's also a cat.
-Toriyama-ish cameo there with that farmer who looks an awful lot like Senbe, who in turn looks like Toriyama.

[JeffJarrett]

I wonder if anyone will say the marks on that plane resemble a swastika.

It looks like Triple H symbol.

Yes, the farmer is similar to Senbei in the Dr. Slump remake.

[omegalucas]

Thank you so so much for the scans, Redon!!

Thoughts on the Cinema Book:
-Speaking of, does Goku have the "GO" symbol on the back of his blue sweatsuit too? (So it's not just a jacket, it's a personalized one.) The screenshot of him jogging looks like there's something on the back of the jacket; if that is what's on there, cute~

It seems so.

It looks like Triple H symbol.

Yes, the farmer is similar to Senbei in the Dr. Slump remake.

Naa, that's definitely Farmer With a Shotgun.

[B]

Does the book spell Goku's name as "GOKOU" or "GOKUU"? The character still is blocking that part of the name, but I guess it looks more like an "O."

[DHM211]

Got Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods Cinema book today, really nice. Here some pictures

I have just ordered this and it's on my way. I kind of regret buying the Official Movie Guide now because this book appears to have more interesting content. Oh well.

Where could I order one?

[alakazam^]

Does the book spell Goku's name as "GOKOU" or "GOKUU"? The character still is blocking that part of the name, but I guess it looks more like an "O."

"GOKOU". You can tell the "O"s are rounder than "U"s.

That Bingo quiz says that Bulma made her 38th birthday and that Beers had been asleep for 39 years. It means Beers went to sleep 6 years before planet Vegeta exploded and 1 year before Bulma was born. It does mess up the timeline even more, doesn't it?

[sailorspazz]

Wait...Bulma's mother has eyes?! So I guess they really were closed all that time...which makes things even more confusing

She was shown with open eyes once (I'm not sure if this was in the manga though).

It was in the manga, too. It happened when Bulma said something along the lines of, "hey, can you watch Trunks? I'm gonna go meet Trunks." They probably just put "Mr. & Mrs. Brief" out of convenience, rather than writing "Brief & Bulma's mama". They have such minor background roles in the movie, they didn't want to bother illuminating the fact that she doesn't actually have a name.

This book looks like it has a lot of fun stuff. They list hobbies for many of the characters. Gokuu's is fighting strong opponents (what, not reading and sports? ) Interestingly, Goten has the same hobby. Gohan's hobby is being a nerd (actually, it lists reading...but not sports ). Vegeta's is training (his hobby, his job, his whole life, more like it). Kuririn's is karaoke (I guess we saw that talent in movie 8...does he sing in this one, too? I already forgot if the summary mentioned it). Beerus likes sleeping (of course, how cat like). And Whis, being a gourmet, enjoys eating.

Most of the characters have text describing them as the "strongest xxx". Bulma is the Earth's strongest wife (err, Chichi might have something to say about that). Yamcha's title is "strongest bro" (yeah, I'm kinda taking "aniki" in the yakuza way here. For the LOLz.). Chaozu is the strongest partner to Tenshinhan (is that the best you can do, Chaozu? Be the strongest out of a group of...one? ) Oolong has the strongest love for panties. And Ox King has the...strongest bigness? Man, they're kinda stretching on some of these to make them fit into categories of "strongest".

There's a '?' on the relationship chart between Trunks and Mai (still kinda creepy, with her being actually in her late 40s at least [NOT 41, messed up movie timeline >_<]) Gokuu and Vegeta are "eternal rivals" (yeah, Gokuu has other rivals, but no other rivalries are "eternal"!)

[Cold Skin]

They probably just put "Mr. & Mrs. Brief" out of convenience, rather than writing "Brief & Bulma's mama". They have such minor background roles in the movie, they didn't want to bother illuminating the fact that she doesn't actually have a name.

What? Wait, don't they refer to Bulma's father as "doctor Brief" or some other title that goes with a family name? I mean, if you meet a scientist and he says "I'm doctor Smith", isn't it implied that Smith is the family name? Is it different in Japan, with people actually giving their first name (there would be a lot of doctors named the same then, lots of Doctor Jin, lots of Doctor Kenji, etc...)?

There's a '?' on the relationship chart between Trunks and Mai (still kinda creepy, with her being actually in her late 40s at least [NOT 41, messed up movie timeline >_<]) Gokuu and Vegeta are "eternal rivals" (yeah, Gokuu has other rivals, but no other rivalries are "eternal"!)

Seems logical, she's a teen physically. It's as if you were immortal since you were a 18 years-old man, would you really hit on a woman that's 60 when you reach your own 60 years-old mentally when your body's still 18? You would still date people your physical age (see Highlander, centuries old, but physically stuck at eternal youth, so when dating NEW people - I specify this because they can stay with a lady growing old because of love -, they fall for people who are 20-30 years old like their own body will always be).

If you're 40 and your body gets back to 15 years old and you had no lover when it happened, chances are you'll be back to dating a young girl that age that you find amazing, if you like her, you'll be attracted to her and it will be as natural as if you had never grown old! You're not an adult, not anymore, regardless of the knowledge and memories you have in your mind. There's nothing wrong in being attracted by someone who fits your physical age, even if you got that age by "cheating" (which can't really happen in reality since we still haven't found how to grant magical wishes and we haven't met Time Lords like the Doctor either...). It's just like you got some "bonus years" to catch a glimpse of the future before being rewinding time and being projected in your young body again: those "old" years never happened physically, they were "cancelled", you're back at where you were at that age as if you never grew old in the first place, so it's only natural you would have again that natural attraction for people your (new) age. As if you had simply be teleported 30 years into the future as a teen with some bonus memories of another life implanted in your mind. The mental age doesn't matter.

[Chuquita]

Re: sailorspazz

Now I want to see yakuza!Yamcha in addition to host-club!Yamcha. XD
*Imagines Yamcha dressed as a yakuza*.

"Eternal rivals". X3 That is unusually poetic for Goku and Vegeta. I like it. I'm not sure if I can imagine one of them telling the other that he's his "eternal rival". XD How does each one react to that?

[VyeRo]

Got Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods Cinema book today, really nice. Here some pictures

I have just ordered this and it's on my way. I kind of regret buying the Official Movie Guide now because this book appears to have more interesting content. Oh well.

Where could I order one?

I bought it on eBay. It's not cheap but I liked the content of the book so much I couldn't resist. They also sell this book in combination with the goodies they hand out at the cinema (dragon ball radar, dragon ball markers and flyers) but that was even more expensive so I only bought the book + flyers.

[alakazam^]

Seems logical, she's a teen physically. It's as if you were immortal since you were a 18 years-old man, would you really hit on a woman that's 60 when you reach your own 60 years-old mentally when your body's still 18? You would still date people your physical age (see Highlander, centuries old, but physically stuck at eternal youth, so when dating NEW people - I specify this because they can stay with a lady growing old because of love -, they fall for people who are 20-30 years old like their own body will always be).

If you're 40 and your body gets back to 15 years old and you had no lover when it happened, chances are you'll be back to dating a young girl that age that you find amazing, if you like her, you'll be attracted to her and it will be as natural as if you had never grown old! You're not an adult, not anymore, regardless of the knowledge and memories you have in your mind. There's nothing wrong in being attracted by someone who fits your physical age, even if you got that age by "cheating" (which can't really happen in reality since we still haven't found how to grant magical wishes and we haven't met Time Lords like the Doctor either...). It's just like you got some "bonus years" to catch a glimpse of the future before being rewinding time and being projected in your young body again: those "old" years never happened physically, they were "cancelled", you're back at where you were at that age as if you never grew old in the first place, so it's only natural you would have again that natural attraction for people your (new) age. As if you had simply be teleported 30 years into the future as a teen with some bonus memories of another life implanted in your mind. The mental age doesn't matter.

Well, the thing is that, unless you're attracted to pre-teens, you usually don't go back to that mindset once you're an adult. If you're 40, you don't start liking children just because you gained a body of a 12 year-old. Maybe you get more childish if your brain gets affected but I hardly think you'd have that orientation. It's just a gag, though

[Marco Polo]

Gokuu's is fighting strong opponents (what, not reading and sports? ) Interestingly, Goten has the same hobby.

Somehow that doesn't sound very Goten-like to me

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Gokuu's is fighting strong opponents (what, not reading and sports? ) Interestingly, Goten has the same hobby.

Somehow that doesn't sound very Goten-like to me

Why? He liked fighting as a child, it's when he become a young man that he got interested in girls & skipped his training.

[Marco Polo]

Why? He liked fighting as a child, it's when he become a young man that he got interested in girls & skipped his training.

I guess so. Goten's personality as a child is so bland that I can't help but think of his young man personality instead.

[sailorspazz]

They probably just put "Mr. & Mrs. Brief" out of convenience, rather than writing "Brief & Bulma's mama". They have such minor background roles in the movie, they didn't want to bother illuminating the fact that she doesn't actually have a name.

What? Wait, don't they refer to Bulma's father as "doctor Brief" or some other title that goes with a family name? I mean, if you meet a scientist and he says "I'm doctor Smith", isn't it implied that Smith is the family name? Is it different in Japan, with people actually giving their first name (there would be a lot of doctors named the same then, lots of Doctor Jin, lots of Doctor Kenji, etc...)?

It's not a Japan thing, it's a Dragon Ball thing. Excluding the Son men, no one in Dragon Ball has family names. It's pointed out by Videl that having family names is unusual when she first meets Gohan. Many (including myself for quite a number of years) believed that "Brief" was a surname since it's attached to the title of Dr., but it's actually his first (well, only) name. Bulma's mother has never been given a proper name, and is always listed in guidebooks as "Bulma's mama".

Seems logical, she's a teen physically. It's as if you were immortal since you were a 18 years-old man, would you really hit on a woman that's 60 when you reach your own 60 years-old mentally when your body's still 18? You would still date people your physical age (see Highlander, centuries old, but physically stuck at eternal youth, so when dating NEW people - I specify this because they can stay with a lady growing old because of love -, they fall for people who are 20-30 years old like their own body will always be).

If you're 40 and your body gets back to 15 years old and you had no lover when it happened, chances are you'll be back to dating a young girl that age that you find amazing, if you like her, you'll be attracted to her and it will be as natural as if you had never grown old! You're not an adult, not anymore, regardless of the knowledge and memories you have in your mind. There's nothing wrong in being attracted by someone who fits your physical age, even if you got that age by "cheating" (which can't really happen in reality since we still haven't found how to grant magical wishes and we haven't met Time Lords like the Doctor either...). It's just like you got some "bonus years" to catch a glimpse of the future before being rewinding time and being projected in your young body again: those "old" years never happened physically, they were "cancelled", you're back at where you were at that age as if you never grew old in the first place, so it's only natural you would have again that natural attraction for people your (new) age. As if you had simply be teleported 30 years into the future as a teen with some bonus memories of another life implanted in your mind. The mental age doesn't matter.

I guess this just comes down to a difference of opinion, but...I can't imagine if I magically ended up in a teenage body again that I would choose to date immature teenage boys And I think stories involving immortals falling in love only with those matching their physical age are really just Hollywood (or the media in general) showing what they think the audience wants to see. More realistically (talking about this hypothetical, fantastical situation) long-living immortals would probably choose older partners, if only to have someone who can relate to them better with their years of life experience. Come on, are we really supposed to expect that a 200-year-old guy stuck in a teenager's body is gonna put up with some 15-year-old girl's bullshit drama? I don't think so. That's my perspective on it, anyway.

Now I want to see yakuza!Yamcha in addition to host-club!Yamcha. XD
*Imagines Yamcha dressed as a yakuza*.

"Eternal rivals". X3 That is unusually poetic for Goku and Vegeta. I like it. I'm not sure if I can imagine one of them telling the other that he's his "eternal rival". XD How does each one react to that?

Being involved with the yakuza could explain his mysterious scars...
Now I'm combining both the host club and yakuza versions of Yamcha into one...hmm, I wonder if such a thing as a yakuza host club exists? A bunch of surly guys yelling at girls as they take their orders...it could work

I can imagine that Vegeta might find the title of "eternal rival" too flowery. "It...it's not like I want to be your rival forever or anything!" *blush* Tsundere Vegeta

[JulieYBM]

Y'know, I really do wonder how Yamamuro recreated his old Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 3 character designs in the exact same positions. Did he just digitally trace and color them or did he draw by eye?

Another interesting note: there is no Super Saiyan 2 Son Gokuu design listed there, but a screen capture from the movie. Did Yamamuro just not make one? If so, I wonder how the scene with Super Saiyan 2 was animated? Hmm...

EDIT: Oh wait, those designs don't have Gokuu's kame symbol in the front like his normal form design does!

[NeoKING]

Y'know, I really do wonder how Yamamuro recreated his old Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 3 character designs in the exact same positions. Did he just digitally trace and color them or did he draw by eye?

Another interesting note: there is no Super Saiyan 2 Son Gokuu design listed there, but a screen capture from the movie. Did Yamamuro just not make one? If so, I wonder how the scene with Super Saiyan 2 was animated? Hmm...

EDIT: Oh wait, those designs don't have Gokuu's kame symbol in the front like his normal form design does!

Honestly, the way the original manga is set up, it seems that Super Saiyan 2 was never really "Super Saiyan 2" but just a "Hyper Super Saiyan" kind of thing, sorta similar to the Grade forms. It seems that SSJ2 has no relevance, anywhere. It's like, only the video games and stuff created "SSJ2" out of convenience. SSJ1 and SSJ2 are so similar you can practically lump them together as one form.

[JulieYBM]

Honestly, the way the original manga is set up, it seems that Super Saiyan 2 was never really "Super Saiyan 2" but just a "Hyper Super Saiyan" kind of thing, sorta similar to the Grade forms. It seems that SSJ2 has no relevance, anywhere. It's like, only the video games and stuff created "SSJ2" out of convenience.

With the way Toriyama never really made it clear, yeah, I can see that being the case. Other than the time he had Gokuu show off all the transformations to Babidi and Majin Boo Toriyama never seemed to clearly know what he was doing or not. "What, there's barely any change!" That would go to help explain why Toriyama forgot about the form. This always seems to carry over to Toei's projects, too...

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Honestly, the way the original manga is set up, it seems that Super Saiyan 2 was never really "Super Saiyan 2" but just a "Hyper Super Saiyan" kind of thing, sorta similar to the Grade forms. It seems that SSJ2 has no relevance, anywhere. It's like, only the video games and stuff created "SSJ2" out of convenience. SSJ1 and SSJ2 are so similar you can practically lump them together as one form.

That's how I view it as well. For me, the only real Saiyan transformations are Oozaru, Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 3, and Super Saiyan God. Super Saiyan Grade 2, Super Saiyan Grade 3, and Super Saiyan 2 are sub-forms of the Super Saiyan form, while Super Saiyan Full Power is an upgraded version of Super Saiyan.

[Bussani]

Honestly, the way the original manga is set up, it seems that Super Saiyan 2 was never really "Super Saiyan 2" but just a "Hyper Super Saiyan" kind of thing, sorta similar to the Grade forms. It seems that SSJ2 has no relevance, anywhere. It's like, only the video games and stuff created "SSJ2" out of convenience.

With the way Toriyama never really made it clear, yeah, I can see that being the case. Other than the time he had Gokuu show off all the transformations to Babidi and Majin Boo Toriyama never seemed to clearly know what he was doing or not. "What, there's barely any change!" That would go to help explain why Toriyama forgot about the form. This always seems to carry over to Toei's projects, too...

Yeah. Many people have suggested this in the past, but ever since Toriyama mentioned that he thought the long-haired form was Super Saiyan 2, I've felt more and more like Goku casually labelling the sparky form as such was arbitrary--just a way to lead into a form stronger than it. There's also the fact that he quite often draws the regular Super Saiyan form with sparks these days.

I mean, arbitrary names are fine--I don't think we should all stop calling the sparky form Super Saiyan 2 or anything like that--but it does make me think about it a little differently.