Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by rereboy » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:51 am

Eddie wrote:
JeffJarrett wrote:
elyas11 wrote:Why do people on this forum keep bringing GT back to this certain thread?
Isn't it obvious GT is being totally ignored with the movie and 'main timeline'? What's the point in even mentioning GT?
GT won't happen in the 'main timeline'.
The film doens't ignore GT, it happens before GT.
The film apparently does ignore GT, though. The whole Pilaf thing can't really fit at all with GT. That being said, I'm also a bit baffled as to why GT keeps coming up lately.
Why not? Pilaf and his gang could easily have tracked down the Dragon Balls again and wish to be older. And again the Dragon would grant their wish, making them older, but older than what they would like. Then, in GT, they decide to track down the black dragon balls instead of the regular ones.

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Post by alakazam^ » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:58 am

When he called Goku a "macho man" I already knew he was clueless. If not for reading the sentence where he said he had a smile on his face after leaving the theatre, I'd though he didn't know what he was talking about. It's better if he just stays with his "ally to justice".

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Post by Chuquita » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:01 am

When the reviewer said that about Goku I knew right away this guy probably would dislike ssjg.

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I noticed that too and it gave me pause as I couldn't tell if the reviewer was making fun of Beers because he disliked him or if he's one of the fans who still thinks Beers is a rabbit. I stopped taking the review seriously after that.
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Post by Michsi » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:30 am

I have to admit that this review kinda sums up all my fears I had for this movie. I won't say I agree with it because I haven't seen the movie myself, but a lot of the things the reviewer mentioned are very similar to my initial misgivings when it came to Battle of the Gods. Unimpressive animation for most of the movie, weak story, bad pacing etc. Maybe, just maybe, the attempt at making it as light hearted as possible hurt it a little?
knew Kubo drew that awesome looking anniversary artwork, but I didn't know he was a Dragon Ball fan. That's nice to hear.
Well, he doesn't seem as big of a fan as Oda or even Kishimoto, but he does speak fondly of it. Unlike the other two, his main influence was Saint Seiya, I think. Also, a few years ago, there was a segment on his Wikipedia page about how he received a letter from Toriyama urging him on not to give up after Zombie Powder got cancelled and the first pilot chapter of Bleach rejected. It's no longer there and I have never seen anyone ever mention it again , so it might have been fake, but it still brought a smile to my face back then.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:32 am

rereboy wrote:
Eddie wrote:
JeffJarrett wrote:The film doens't ignore GT, it happens before GT.
The film apparently does ignore GT, though. The whole Pilaf thing can't really fit at all with GT. That being said, I'm also a bit baffled as to why GT keeps coming up lately.
Why not? Pilaf and his gang could easily have tracked down the Dragon Balls again and wish to be older. And again the Dragon would grant their wish, making them older, but older than what they would like. Then, in GT, they decide to track down the black dragon balls instead of the regular ones.
I also explains why Goku could fight evenly with someone stronger than Majin Boo (Rild), could easily defeat two Super Saiyans (Gohan & Goten), and even more easily defeat Cell & Freeza, all of these in base.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Saiga » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:33 am

Michsi wrote:Well, he doesn't seem as big of a fan as Oda or even Kishimoto, but he does speak fondly of it. Unlike the other two, his main influence was Saint Seiya, I think. Also, a few years ago, there was a segment on his Wikipedia page about how he received a letter from Toriyama urging him on not to give up after Zombie Powder got cancelled and the first pilot chapter of Bleach rejected. It's no longer there and I have never seen anyone ever mention it again , so it might have been fake, but it still brought a smile to my face back then.
Kinda feel I should read Saint Seiya now. :P I've had literally no exposure to it, and only have seen it mentioned a few times on these forums.

That letter sounds fake but I hope it's real, it sounds really heartening.
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Post by VyeRo » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:36 am

He probably thinks that SSJG looks too feminine.

I think he just missed the point of Beers' character. He's not supposed to be evil!!!1! but a god of destruction, it's his job to keep balance in the universe. He doesn't take sadistic pleasure in killing people like Freeza and Cell, and he's not out for world domination. So of course he wouldn't be like the typical antagonist. I'm actually glad they went with someone like Beers because it's different and new. And he probably does think that Beers is a rabbit. :|

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:31 am

Wait, does Korea get anime movies early? Because I found a Korean dubbed Road to Ninja: Naruto The Movie and a Korean subbed One Piece Film Z, and none of them have been released in DVD in Japan.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by alakazam^ » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:53 am

VyeRo wrote:And he probably does think that Beers is a rabbit. :|
I have a friend that thought the same, so...

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Post by VyeRo » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:34 am

alakazam^ wrote:
VyeRo wrote:And he probably does think that Beers is a rabbit. :|
I have a friend that thought the same, so...
There is nothing wrong with it because some members here thought the same thing when his design was first revealed. But when you're writing a review and criticizing something, you have to make sure you have your facts in order. The fact that Beers clearly looks like an Egyptian deity/Sphinx cat/Anubis-like creature should have also tipped him off that he is not a rabbit.

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Post by SaiyaJedi » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:08 am

VyeRo wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:
VyeRo wrote:And he probably does think that Beers is a rabbit. :|
I have a friend that thought the same, so...
There is nothing wrong with it because some members here thought the same thing when his design was first revealed. But when you're writing a review and criticizing something, you have to make sure you have your facts in order. The fact that Beers clearly looks like an Egyptian deity/Sphinx cat/Anubis-like creature should have also tipped him off that he is not a rabbit.
That, and the feline mannerisms. Seriously, apart from the ears, there's nothing remotely rabbit-like about him.
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Post by Bando » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:59 am

Anyone know if this is fake? I assume so since it hasn't been posted on the front page yet.

http://postimg.org/image/l506ha4kn/full/

“If this movie has manages to be successful overseas, that would imply the return of Dragon Ball to TV, in a new story that would follow the original manga, without taking GT into account”

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:00 pm

Correct in that it is fake.

You can obviously imply that if the movie does well SOMETHING of SOME TYPE will be made to capitalize on it, but as of right now, there's absolutely no-one in any official capacity saying for sure, "Hey, if this does well, we promise we'll do X or Y!"
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Post by Super Saiyan God » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:06 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Correct in that it is fake.

You can obviously imply that if the movie does well SOMETHING of SOME TYPE will be made to capitalize on it, but as of right now, there's absolutely no-one in any official capacity saying for sure, "Hey, if this does well, we promise we'll do X or Y!"
So its fake but what would happen if battle of gods reach 3 billiom yen? I know there will be sequel movie, but is there will be new series too?

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Post by Makaioshin » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:15 pm

Super Saiyan God wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:Correct in that it is fake.

You can obviously imply that if the movie does well SOMETHING of SOME TYPE will be made to capitalize on it, but as of right now, there's absolutely no-one in any official capacity saying for sure, "Hey, if this does well, we promise we'll do X or Y!"
So its fake but what would happen if battle of gods reach 3 billiom yen? I know there will be sequel movie, but is there will be new series too?
I don't mean to be rude but I think you should read his comment again. There is nothing that says we will get another movie. There is nothing that says there will be a new series. The only thing we do know is that people like money.

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Post by Bando » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:27 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Correct in that it is fake.

You can obviously imply that if the movie does well SOMETHING of SOME TYPE will be made to capitalize on it, but as of right now, there's absolutely no-one in any official capacity saying for sure, "Hey, if this does well, we promise we'll do X or Y!"
Thank you very much. :D

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Post by redon » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:54 pm

Got my “Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods” Official Movie Guide yesteday, I scan "Akira Toriyama Art Works" pages, really nice :mrgreen:

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Post by Hujio » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:00 pm

Bando wrote:http://postimg.org/image/l506ha4kn/full/
“If this movie has manages to be successful overseas, that would imply the return of Dragon Ball to TV, in a new story that would follow the original manga, without taking GT into account”
I'm just gonna throw this out there, since a little logic can a long way in preventing the believability of false rumors. The words "Dragon Ball" and "GT" appear nowhere in Toriyama's answer, or even the question being posed. And really, you don't even have to know Japanese to pull those out of what's actually being said.
Super Saiyan God wrote:I know there will be sequel movie, but is there will be new series too?
I will say this again, and reiterate everything we at Kanzenshuu have been saying. There is no official confirmation of any sequel to the movie, or even a new series. All of the parties involved have left it open to the possibility of a sequel, but none have actually said it's happening, or that there are any plans to even do anything moving forward. There's been no announcement, no press conference, no official anything; especially not from Toriyama himself.
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Post by sangofe » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:11 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Wait, does Korea get anime movies early? Because I found a Korean dubbed Road to Ninja: Naruto The Movie and a Korean subbed One Piece Film Z, and none of them have been released in DVD in Japan.
I bet they got a lot of bootlegs.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:16 pm

sangofe wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Wait, does Korea get anime movies early? Because I found a Korean dubbed Road to Ninja: Naruto The Movie and a Korean subbed One Piece Film Z, and none of them have been released in DVD in Japan.
I bet they got a lot of bootlegs.
But the question is: How? The latest Naruto & One Piece movies have only been released on theaters, while those Korean versions are like they are ripped from a DVD or something... :?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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