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Re: Mystery Jump Countdown: New DB Movie Confirmed!

Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:58 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:I'm hoping for movies 1 & 2 style fight scenes. Those were better then some live action choreography! However, I don't think we'll see that. Though movie 12 was pretty close and had a good combination of Martial arts and fire balls :D
I felt the earlier movies did a better job of choreographing team fights and making everyone look like a badass. That's more or less what I want to see. It's inevitable that Goku is going to save the day, but it wouldn't hurt to see Vegeta and Goku fighting side by side. Basically more tag-team less standing on the sidelines grunting.
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:08 pm

Instead of an action-oriented movie, the new movie will concentrate on the drama in the lives of our heroes.

Chi-Chi becomes deeply depressed that her husband has not aged a bit since he was in his twenties. She feels old and haggard. Longing to feel young again, she begins to gather the Dragon Balls to restore her youth. But Bulma is already doing that for herself. When they gather the Dragon Balls, Vegeta sees this as a golden opportunity to gain the immortality he wanted years before, finally have a chance to surpass Goku. At the last moment, however, Oolong wishes for some more panties. With three wishes. Devestated, Chi-Chi and Bulma become alcoholics. Vegeta flies off into space and never returns.

Oolong's panty fetish spirals out of control. Soon he's stealing panties from Chi-Chi, Bulma, Videl, Lunch, and 18, rubbing them against him, and locking himself inside all day to smell them. Finally, his friends have to stage an intervention. But it doesn't go well. He transforms into a machine gun and kills the non-superpowered ones. Chi-Chi, Bulma, Ox King, Puar, Mr. Satan, Maron, Bra, Dr Brief, Bulma's mom, dead. Blood is everywhere. Then when he's seen what he's done, he kills himself in front of everyone else.

Goku wanders into the room looking for muffins (as the muffin button is broken). He sees the bloody carnage, shrugs his shoulders, and goes back to training. The survivors likewise shrug their shoulders and laugh.

"Oh, that Goku!"

The picture freezes as they laugh. 80s sitcom music (preferrably sax) plays as credits roll over the blood soaked Kame House.

A post-credits scene has Kuririn continue Oolong's collection.
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Re: Mystery Jump Countdown: New DB Movie Confirmed!

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:28 pm

I'd like to know if Hosoda is doing the storyboard himself or if Shida might join in as he has on One Piece. Since Shida has a history with the franchise he'd be able to create some awesome storyboards, espicially if he can animate his own boards himself.

I also want them to throw out randam battle power numbers just for the heck of it.
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Post by sonikku956 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:24 pm

penguintruth wrote:Instead of an action-oriented movie, the new movie will concentrate on the drama in the lives of our heroes.

Chi-Chi becomes deeply depressed that her husband has not aged a bit since he was in his twenties. She feels old and haggard. Longing to feel young again, she begins to gather the Dragon Balls to restore her youth. But Bulma is already doing that for herself. When they gather the Dragon Balls, Vegeta sees this as a golden opportunity to gain the immortality he wanted years before, finally have a chance to surpass Goku. At the last moment, however, Oolong wishes for some more panties. With three wishes. Devestated, Chi-Chi and Bulma become alcoholics. Vegeta flies off into space and never returns.

Oolong's panty fetish spirals out of control. Soon he's stealing panties from Chi-Chi, Bulma, Videl, Lunch, and 18, rubbing them against him, and locking himself inside all day to smell them. Finally, his friends have to stage an intervention. But it doesn't go well. He transforms into a machine gun and kills the non-superpowered ones. Chi-Chi, Bulma, Ox King, Puar, Mr. Satan, Maron, Bra, Dr Brief, Bulma's mom, dead. Blood is everywhere. Then when he's seen what he's done, he kills himself in front of everyone else.

Goku wanders into the room looking for muffins (as the muffin button is broken). He sees the bloody carnage, shrugs his shoulders, and goes back to training. The survivors likewise shrug their shoulders and laugh.

"Oh, that Goku!"

The picture freezes as they laugh. 80s sitcom music (preferrably sax) plays as credits roll over the blood soaked Kame House.

A post-credits scene has Kuririn continue Oolong's collection.

Uh, Chichi is rather strong. So is Ox-King. Chichi is as strong as Roshi (although she might be secretly stronger due to how Gohan turned out) during the 23rd Budokai, and Ox-King was trained by Roshi. Also, Bra could possibly withstand a bullet, since she is half-Saiyan. But that was funny XD

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Re: Mystery Jump Countdown: New DB Movie Confirmed!

Post by Gozar » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:59 pm

Honestly, I think that making Goku the strongest character is the only possible route to go. DragonBall is the story of Goku, and despite any attempts to make it not, it always comes back to him in the end. It wouldn't make sense for Goku to be the hero like he will be if Gohan and Gotenks are stronger than him. Let's face it, Toriyama made a mistake. He started bringing the story in one direction but ultimately admitted himself that Gohan wasn't as suited for the role of hero. Personally, I think that in the Kid Buu Arc, Toriyama was trying to take back some of what he did by making Gohan's Ki not anywhere near enough to defeat Buu in the Genki Dama. But that's another debate for another time. Just take a look at that teaser, it's all about Goku. Toei knows what they have in Goku and are going to run with it.

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Post by soulnova » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:18 am

Hiroshi Katō... that's going to be interesting.

Some of the backgrounds on Space brothers I just found looking around.

A scene in a park

A Street with trees in bloom

City at night.


Now... where would you like the movie to be? I would love for it to happen on a city.
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Post by hui43210 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:25 am

Art director of Neon Genesis Evangenlion? I'm sold!

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Post by Chuquita » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:30 am

All those backgrounds look so beautiful. *_*
I don't know if the actual movie will hold up to the images I'm forming of it in my imagination based on these cast announcements, but I'm really enjoying the ride atm.

That park has such nice warm summer-colors.
Cherry blossoms! I know they were done in Movie 8 though, but I'd still like to see cherry blossoms again.
I think some night-time scenery would be a lot of fun. Not too much stuff in DB happens at night and it'd make it stand out.

Any of them would be wonderful.

I just don't wanna do abandoned dusty cliffs/canyons again because I'm bored of them; at least not for the entire thing.
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Re: Mystery Jump Countdown: New DB Movie Confirmed!

Post by sonikku956 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:44 am

Gozar wrote:Honestly, I think that making Goku the strongest character is the only possible route to go. DragonBall is the story of Goku, and despite any attempts to make it not, it always comes back to him in the end. It wouldn't make sense for Goku to be the hero like he will be if Gohan and Gotenks are stronger than him. Let's face it, Toriyama made a mistake. He started bringing the story in one direction but ultimately admitted himself that Gohan wasn't as suited for the role of hero. Personally, I think that in the Kid Buu Arc, Toriyama was trying to take back some of what he did by making Gohan's Ki not anywhere near enough to defeat Buu in the Genki Dama.
He did that to make the fans happy.

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Re: Mystery Jump Countdown: New DB Movie Confirmed!

Post by Michsi » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:54 am

While I'm happy for the additional Info I have to admit, the "specializes in CG animation" bit also makes me a bit anxious.
I'm not sure I'd like the backgounds to be CG like in the trailer. I often thought traditional animation and 3D animation clash when put in the same scene. While I haven't had the chance to see it myself, a lot of fans seem to have been dissapointed in the lasted Berserk movie because of the CG. From the few scenes I have seen, I can sorta understand why. I really don't want this to happen to this movie too.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:42 pm

I think some CG used in the movie would be cool if they mixed into together like the Rebuild Evangelion movies did. It sucks that Japan still uses 2D animation when nearly cartoons and animated movies are in 2D. 2D is pretty much dead in the US :( .
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:46 pm

sonikku956 wrote:
Gozar wrote:Honestly, I think that making Goku the strongest character is the only possible route to go. DragonBall is the story of Goku, and despite any attempts to make it not, it always comes back to him in the end. It wouldn't make sense for Goku to be the hero like he will be if Gohan and Gotenks are stronger than him. Let's face it, Toriyama made a mistake. He started bringing the story in one direction but ultimately admitted himself that Gohan wasn't as suited for the role of hero. Personally, I think that in the Kid Buu Arc, Toriyama was trying to take back some of what he did by making Gohan's Ki not anywhere near enough to defeat Buu in the Genki Dama.
He did that to make the fans happy.
It seems that you've forgotten a thing called "sources", but remembered a thing called "being duped into rumours and then ignorantly spreading across the internet". Toriyama himself said that Gohan wasn't suitable for the role. So he swapped him out for Gohan again. It's classic Toriyama writing-on-the-seat-of-his-pants.
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:02 pm

soulnova wrote:Now... where would you like the movie to be? I would love for it to happen on a city.
I'd really like the movie to take place mostly in a rocky area where everything looks roughly the same.

And the sky better damn well be a slight shade of green.
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Piccolo Daimao wrote:
sonikku956 wrote:
Gozar wrote:Honestly, I think that making Goku the strongest character is the only possible route to go. DragonBall is the story of Goku, and despite any attempts to make it not, it always comes back to him in the end. It wouldn't make sense for Goku to be the hero like he will be if Gohan and Gotenks are stronger than him. Let's face it, Toriyama made a mistake. He started bringing the story in one direction but ultimately admitted himself that Gohan wasn't as suited for the role of hero. Personally, I think that in the Kid Buu Arc, Toriyama was trying to take back some of what he did by making Gohan's Ki not anywhere near enough to defeat Buu in the Genki Dama.
He did that to make the fans happy.
It seems that you've forgotten a thing called "sources", but remembered a thing called "being duped into rumours and then ignorantly spreading across the internet". Toriyama himself said that Gohan wasn't suitable for the role. So he swapped him out for Gohan again. It's classic Toriyama writing-on-the-seat-of-his-pants.
Ironically you did too.

Here is the quote:
"And then the Cell arc ended. Did you think that everyone felt you would put Gohan into the leading role?
I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part."

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Post by Attitudefan » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:07 pm

You know, animators from the pre CG era are not given enough credit. We see them animate large objects and crazy scenes without any CG whatsoever back in the day. It looked good, no, GREAT! The CG we see in our current era never looks good in animations when combined with 2D. I mean, is it necessary to have 3D scenes in the first place?
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:14 pm

My theory on CG is that it's cheaper than 2D animation (well,there's also Flash-based 2D cartoons, those are probably cheaper than frame-by-frame 2D too), and because CG's cheaper, it saves some money while simultaneously appearing "new" and "modern".

While I still prefer the fluidity of 2D to CG, I'm not all that worried about the use of any CG in the movie; what CG has been in the recent One Piece and Pretty Cure movies has been pretty minimal (if you discount most Precure Movie Ending Dance sequences, but that's a whole different story).
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Post by Ringworm128 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:21 pm

The art director for Evangelion? All this movie needs now is to confirm that Shunsuke Kikuchi will be composing a brand new batch of music along with arrangements of his previous works and this movie will be at the top of my list of things to get hyped about.

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Post by Storm101 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:46 pm

I never quite understood Toriyama thinking Gohan wasn't suited for the role. Then why not MAKE HIM suited for the role? Him growing up over the 7 years is a good excuse to change his personality a little bit.

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Post by Gozar » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:37 pm

Storm101 wrote:I never quite understood Toriyama thinking Gohan wasn't suited for the role. Then why not MAKE HIM suited for the role? Him growing up over the 7 years is a good excuse to change his personality a little bit.
But Gohan did change over those 7 years. Problem is that he could never change into Goku. Chi-Chi would never allow that =P

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Post by Gonstead » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:54 pm

Gozar wrote:
Storm101 wrote:I never quite understood Toriyama thinking Gohan wasn't suited for the role. Then why not MAKE HIM suited for the role? Him growing up over the 7 years is a good excuse to change his personality a little bit.
But Gohan did change over those 7 years. Problem is that he could never change into Goku. Chi-Chi would never allow that =P
And which could also account for all the "If Gohan kept training in the 7 years" DBZ fanfic cliche.
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