Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[penguintruth]

Whether or not Gohan trained those 7 years is irrelevant, since the Dai Kaioshin power up made him way more powerful than everyone else.

He just had bad luck, being absorbed by Buu. In fact, Gotenks would have beaten Buu, too, but they wasted time.

Toriyama had to make Gotenks and Gohan screw up at the last minute in order to make Goku the hero again. It's not like Buu beat up SSJ3 Gotenks and powered up Gohan.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

My theory on CG is that it's cheaper than 2D animation (well,there's also Flash-based 2D cartoons, those are probably cheaper than frame-by-frame 2D too), and because CG's cheaper, it saves some money while simultaneously appearing "new" and "modern".

While I still prefer the fluidity of 2D to CG, I'm not all that worried about the use of any CG in the movie; what CG has been in the recent One Piece and Pretty Cure movies has been pretty minimal (if you discount most Precure Movie Ending Dance sequences, but that's a whole different story).

It's definitely less time consuming to do backgrounds in 3D rather then in 2D. Especially with things like Cities(simple geometric designs) or things with repeating or similar shapes(mountains and so forth). Also choosing to do somethings in 3D allow for smooth(and easy) pan-around shots that would otherwise be a pain in the ass to do frame by frame. When done correctly, the mixing of 2D and 3D can be really nice and almost unnoticeable(usually that's the goal). Movies like Treasure Planet, Titan A.E., and Zoids are good examples of this.

Also, I'm going on record and saying that Flash should never ever be used for anything other than web series and low budget/one man shorts. I cringe when I see new cartoons use flash. It just looks wrong, lazy, and cheap.

[Kuwabara]

Earlier in the thread people were talking about big name celebrities being utilized in the English dub. Why couldn't they maintain the original cast while having Fox bring in celebrity talent to voice any brand new characters that might be in the film?

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Because the fans will vomit in rage if they changed the cast just like that. If they are going to be smart about it, they are going to use the Funimation cast.

[Kuwabara]

Actually read my post...

Earlier in the thread people were talking about big name celebrities being utilized in the English dub. Why couldn't they maintain the original cast while having Fox bring in celebrity talent to voice any brand new characters that might be in the film?

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Oops. Overlooked your post.

My post still stands though.

[penguintruth]

Jimmy Falon as Goku.

Nick Jonas as Gohan.

Ryan Seacrest Kuririn.

Nick Cannon as Piccolo.

Kristen Stewart as Chi-Chi.

Music by Lady Gaga.


(Only marginally worse than the actual DBZ dub.)

[Kuwabara]

Kristen Stewart as Chi-Chi.

The difference between her and Cynthia Cranz would be unnoticeable considering both sound perpetually pissed off.

[penguintruth]

Can't be any worse than Cynthia Cranz.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Just wondering, which aspect of the franchise do you guys want to see take center stage in this film; the mystical side or the science fiction side? Either way, I hope they put out something similar to the likes of DBZ Movie 8, 13 or the 10th Anniversary Movie. These three movies all maintained a reasonable balance between humour, action and the every day lives of the characters.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm pretty sure that there will be no big name voice actors in this movie. If they do pick someone for the main villain then I would love it to be someone with a great evil voice like Christopher Lee. It will never happen but it would be cool though.

[Piccolo Daimao]

He did that to make the fans happy.

It seems that you've forgotten a thing called "sources", but remembered a thing called "being duped into rumours and then ignorantly spreading across the internet". Toriyama himself said that Gohan wasn't suitable for the role. So he swapped him out for Gohan again. It's classic Toriyama writing-on-the-seat-of-his-pants.

Ironically you did too.

Here is the quote:
"And then the Cell arc ended. Did you think that everyone felt you would put Gohan into the leading role?
I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part."

Here is the link:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/

It's in "Toriyama interview Round 2"

No, I didn't; your post makes no sense.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

In what way does my post not make sense? When you corrected someone and told him to use a source to back up his claim, you forgot to do the same for yourself. So I provided the quote(which backs up your claim) and then provided a link where the quote can be found.

[Zestanor]

Also, I'm going on record and saying that Flash should never ever be used for anything other than web series and low budget/one man shorts. I cringe when I see new cartoons use flash. It just looks wrong, lazy, and cheap.

Vector based animation certainly may be easier than by-hand 2D, but that doesn't mean it has to be cheaply done or lazy. You'd be surprised how much can be pulled off in Flash, and I think it could fit Dragon Ball just fine if done right.

[JulieYBM]

Flash can work, provided you do it right, like Ryou Chimo and Yamashita Shingo (specifically the first few minutes of Naruto Shippuuden #167).

[Avenged]

Flash is already becoming yesterday's story. I've seen better material made with simply HTML 5, lots of new engines are using HTML 5 now opposed to Flash.

[KaiserNeko]

Flash can work, provided you do it right, like Ryou Chimo and Yamashita Shingo (specifically the first few minutes of Naruto Shippuuden #167).

... Not to get too far off topic, but... that is a shining example of using it -terribly-. Those shots looks nothing short of miserable. I understand the idea behind sacrificing detail for fluidity, but those shots were ugly, off model, and utterly unacceptable.

Flash Animation can be used to spectacular degrees. Just look at Wakfu. But Naruto Shipuuden #167 is nothing short of disappointing in several regards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTYNhgPdGQc Regardless of these being single shots and not in motion, I can honest to God say they do -not- look any better.

[Hellspawn28]

My theory on CG is that it's cheaper than 2D animation (well,there's also Flash-based 2D cartoons, those are probably cheaper than frame-by-frame 2D too), and because CG's cheaper, it saves some money while simultaneously appearing "new" and "modern".

I guess that's why 2D is pretty much dead now these days in the US. I seen some recent cartoons like Ben 10 and Adventure Time that uses them but movies are pretty much are done in 3D animation now these days. It sucks that Japan pretty much only uses 2D animation now these days. I'm a old fashioned type of guy since that's why I always like practical effects over CG. CG can be awesome but practical effects always look more real to me.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

My theory on CG is that it's cheaper than 2D animation (well,there's also Flash-based 2D cartoons, those are probably cheaper than frame-by-frame 2D too), and because CG's cheaper, it saves some money while simultaneously appearing "new" and "modern".

I guess that's why 2D is pretty much dead now these days in the US. I seen some recent cartoons like Ben 10 and Adventure Time that uses them but movies are pretty much are done in 3D animation now these days. It sucks that Japan pretty much only uses 2D animation now these days. I'm a old fashioned type of guy since that's why I always like practical effects over CG. CG can be awesome but practical effects always look more real to me.

I feel you, man. 3D never looked appeal to me. 3D will never ever capture a charm that 2D had. Speaking of 2D, I personally prefer cel animation over computer-generated animation.

[samuraix123]

Speaking of animation, Has the Dragonball series (Movies or Specials) ever had a fully animated movie like Disney? I seen all of the movies, specials, ect. but I don't know if they are fully animated or not? I would like to see this movie fully animated. like the flow of movement like Disney. I'm going to shut up now because I feel like I'm making myself look stupid by not knowing about this stuff.
And I definitely agree with ''DragonBalllKaiHD'' I much prefer this

over this

I know I'm probably wrong but looking at the animation used for the Kai intro's and outro's, & Episode of Bardock. seems kinda cheaply made to me I mean I still love the little episode and seeing the intro's and outro's of Kai is a treat, but it just feels cheap.